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Goodbye Roy's Folks

Actually, I can watch online.

I was picking it up fine before. What possible reason could they have had to return to Channel 8 on June 12? VHF signals, I am told, aren't that good. And even then they're at reduced power.
 
I saw on the news where the FCC is saying some tuners don't rescan right (big surprise huh?) They are saying do something called a double rescan where you unhook the antenna from the tuner, do a scan so it doesn't pickup anything and the hook the antenna back up and then rescan again. The FCC is saying it works most of the time.
 
I am probrably less than 10 air miles from the WGHP tower and I have trouble recieving WGHP now..before I didn't
 
I see on WGHP's website they have turned on the UHF transmitter again and the channel 8 transmitter is still on too I thought you couldn't do that and that license was yanked on June 12th?
 
rf_chaser: they couldn't without FCC permission. Since WGHP is having big difficulties with its VHF signal, and since UHF channel 35 is still good for the area and since everything was in place, they applied for special temporary authority to operate UHF 35 - the FCC granted them this for 6 months. WTVD in Raleigh have it worse: they're having similar problems but no UHF signal to go to, since they were on UHF 52 and post transition the UHF dial ends on 51, FCC won't authorize anything above 51. So if the FCC spend their time concentrating on WTVD and get them right, WGHP can plod along for a bit and maybe learn lessons from them.
 
::) Hinesight! We should have saved hem when we owned them! Southern Broadcasting..
 
Mark Wooldridge said:
rf_chaser: they couldn't without FCC permission. Since WGHP is having big difficulties with its VHF signal, and since UHF channel 35 is still good for the area and since everything was in place, they applied for special temporary authority to operate UHF 35 - the FCC granted them this for 6 months. WTVD in Raleigh have it worse: they're having similar problems but no UHF signal to go to, since they were on UHF 52 and post transition the UHF dial ends on 51, FCC won't authorize anything above 51. So if the FCC spend their time concentrating on WTVD and get them right, WGHP can plod along for a bit and maybe learn lessons from them.
So I can go watch on channel 35 now?

Great, this should work. I was getting that channel before.
 
;D Success!

I didn't even have to type in "35". That's in the living room, though that's where the VCR is set to tape. The other TV can't be set. I have to remember, though I'll try channel 8 in there too.

Now, I have to remember to manually switch over to "The Simpsons".
 
I'll just bet you were. ;)

I had to rescan last night. I should call the converter box people and ask what's going on. This doesn't happen with the other one. Details if you click on the link above.

On the other hand, I was fiddling with the antenna direction and got two more channels. One I never even got before when it was analog! Maybe I could have but I never tried it. I didn't even know there WAS a channel 43.

And the best news about this is this means I can get all the broadcast networks except Ion in the event the cable goes out. I never thought WXII would go this far south. I'm not even picking up the analog nighlight signal with this same antenna.

I just wonder: since I can't pick up either the nighlight channels of WXII or WFMY but I could before ... wonder if the antenna I used before when I could pick up both would work for WGHP if they go back to channel 8? I've heard there is something I can hook up to that to take care of the distance problem.
 
I saw a blog from one of the WGHP engineers on their website that said they are broadcasting on both channel 8 and channel 35 and to receive channel 8 you have to have a VHF antenna. A UHF wouldn't work.

Channel 43 is really old channel 61. About 2 weeks ago they changed from being 61 to 43.
 
rf_chaser said:
I saw a blog from one of the WGHP engineers on their website that said they are broadcasting on both channel 8 and channel 35 and to receive channel 8 you have to have a VHF antenna. A UHF wouldn't work.

Channel 43 is really old channel 61. About 2 weeks ago they changed from being 61 to 43.
My neighbors said on the way to the mountains they were getting channel 61, and in particular they liked the subchannel with the old comedies. I couldn't understand this since they have a dish, but they said they don't use it.

Another update: I figured out that the first converter box wouldn't have gotten channel 8 anyway because I didn't rescan. My intention was to do whatever was necessary with converter box no. 2 to get a VHF signal, so I did nothing with the first box. I just assumed when it couldn't get channel 8 on channel 35.1 it would look for channel 8.1. Given all the talk about "double rescanning", I guess I was wrong.

My second converter box had no trouble having its memory cleared, and I don't know why. No one will admit to the problem. More information if you click on the link above.

However, I decided that since I used to get a perfect signal on channel 2 with rabbit ears (with each new TV my channel 2 reception has gotten worse) and I haven't picked up channel 2 at all with any of my new antennas (though channel 51.1, or 2.1, is perfect), I should use the old rabbit ears to try to pick up channel 8. If my distance from the transmitter is a problem with those, people posting here have said they used something to improve reception, and when I got the converter boxes the man said they had no antennas there but I could buy something at another store in the same shopping center which shall remain nameless. That store was closed at the time, which is why I bought my converter boxes from Sears.

I went to the nameless store and they didn't know what I was talking about.

After I had trouble with channel 8 I went back to the nameless store and asked, and they knew what I needed but didn't have any in stock. But here's what's amazing. This is a chain store, not Bubba's TV Repair. The employees are supposed to know this stuff. I asked about VHF and was told there is no more VHF. The governement, and in particular Homeland Security, took that over. (Don't we wish!) I told him about my difficulties picking up channel 8. He turned on this TV which had all this fabulous information. This is over-the-air TV, not cable! Digital TV has ALL this stuff if your TV will display it. But I'm cheap. I just see the name of the show that's on if I change channels. If I want signal strength I have to go to the menu. By the way, signal strength was 91 percent. This is a shopping center. They always have reception problems. We were a long way from the transmitter. I didn't ask but that antenna HAD to be outside.

I said that was channel 35. He checked and said there was nothing between 20 and 36. You know, I should have thought to tell him that channel 8 is VHF. Therefore, if that's channel 8, then how can it be true there is no more VHF?
 
Speaking of Channel 8 . . .

I just re-scanned my eye-tv receiver, and it no longer gives me a separate channel number for 8's uhf re-translator on 35. Does anyone know if they've given up on trying to get a decent signal on VHF, and have the PSIP on 35 identifying them as channel 8 again?

Curious minds want to know.
Later . . . .
 
I don't see why they don't just give up on VHF. There seems to be no valid reason not to.

I haven't heard a single comment on the chances they can't continue using channel 35. I don't have problems, except for the occasional line across the screen with no sound for half a second.

Meanwhile, I have no way to test the VHF to see if I could have actually gotten it. I should have rescanned when they were still just on 8 but I didn't know.

Although I'm afraid if I rescan I'll lose WCWG.
 
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