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Great trade outs

For some of us back in the old days trade outs used to be a great under the table way to boost our quality of life and/or keep our stations rolling. I'm wondering if anyone has any really great trade out stories to share.

At my first station (the now defunct WFSH 1340 in Niceville) every other top of the ID included the phrase "from the Palm Plaza mini mall" in exchange for half the rent. Does anybody still do trade outs? What are some of your favorites/weirdest?
 
When Lowell W. Paxon ( Home Shopping Club guru, PAX TV starter and owner of numerous radio stations throughout the state of Florida & others), owned a single 500 watt directional daytime AM station in Sarasota, FL in 1972...(1280 - Surf Row Radio, WYND), he was known as the trade out KING.. Besides the normal gas and car trade outs...(A couple of NICE Pontiac Firebirds), Paxon traded Windjammer cruises for his kid's orthodontia... Groceries with a local mom and pop grocery store...and traded out time in exchange for a 22 foot Winnebago motor home shell completely painted with station logos on all sides,to be used as a remote unit... We were already on carts for music, so a small production board worked fine. Just used a Marti and could do a remote even while moving on the road from just about anywhere within range...And those were just the ones I can remember or was privy to know about....
 
No. In a pure trade out, no money changes hands. The car dealer would give you the use of a car in exchange for a certain number of spots. Of course, we can assume that the value a station in a small town that might or might not be Arbitron rated could be a bit...creative?

I think we can assume that ASK GARY is paying for the naming rights.

When I worked at WPLP Dan Johnson traded out the last Christmas party before he sold to Guy Gannett Broadcasting at Tiki Gardens. I seem to remember Tiki Gardens spots for at least a year after the takeover...I could be exaggerating though.

The all time classic I ever heard of was the radio personality who cut a deal behind his manager's back with a local funeral parlor. When he was confronted, it turned out the guy had terminal cancer and had traded out his own funeral.
 
Never forget meeting Bud for a brew at the Ramada bar Countryside and thinking...this will never work....he called it KMart with a tower..
 
Frank Ferreri said:
Never forget meeting Bud for a brew at the Ramada bar Countryside and thinking...this will never work....he called it KMart with a tower..
I think that one will be hard to top.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
The Home Shopping Channel was an idea that was so ridiculous (seemingly to us 'experts') that no one thought it had a snowball's chance in Hell of going anywhere or doing anything, yet it became one of the most incredibly successful concepts in the history of TV. On the other hand, his idea of building a network of all news stations around Florida and using computer power to link them into a juggernaut that would generate incredible synergy sounded like a great idea then and turned into a spectacular failure. Life is funny that way.
 
Back in the day when I made less than the poverty level in a small market, while also going to school full time...

I got theater tickets for free.
I got a free car wash once a month.
Once in a while, I got free groceries.

As a news person, I hated the idea... but rationalized that it came from my employer and not directly from the client. If not for some of these perks that came via trade, I would have gone without.

This wasn't some big corporate owner enslaving me. This was an honest-to-goodness local-local-local station owned by a local man just trying to keep the station on the air and somehow serving the town and county we were in.
 
Mike_Hennessy said:
The all time classic I ever heard of was the radio personality who cut a deal behind his manager's back with a local funeral parlor. When he was confronted, it turned out the guy had terminal cancer and had traded out his own funeral.
That one is just creepy, but rational.

It really DID have a "kill" date.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Okay..fasten your seat belts...when I first moved up here to the Smoky Mountains there was only one FM signal in this county. They ran ABC's Star Station when they were on the air from 6am to 11pm. No local content at all. I had been creative director at the Cox cluster and had been off the air as a jock for a good while. I remember sitting on the deck listening to the station and pounding the railing, saying they SHOULD have a local morning show at least. My daughter said.."why don't you go do it Dad"

So I put one some real clothes and went to meet the owners of the station, who were at the time two former sales and on air ladies who had purchased the station. They were nice as pie, although suspicious that I would have any interest in working for them..and they had no money to spend on people, but I presented a good case, and they paid me..(gulp) 200 bucks a MONTH..but gave me five commercial minutes an hour during 6a-10a to do with as I liked. I traded out EVERYTHING. tires, a tractor, groceries from Piggly Wiggly, meals at the local Italian place..car washes, gasoline, heating oil, ice cream..EVERYTHING. I actually couldn't believe how sweet of a deal that was until one of the ladies came to me and asked me to back off a little because they were not getting the usual money sponsors..so we sat down and figured out how to get real money from typically non-radio advertisers.

We SOLD the top of the hour ID to Caterpillar (they had a plant here) and THAT paid for the power bill. We traded a generator and fuel for power outages.. "When the power goes down..we stay around..with a Generac LP powered electric generator installed by Tugalo Gas" We sold a bottom of the hour promo to Lee Jeans "Macon County's successful farm families listen to 1050/WFSC in Lee Jeans..a product of Franklin's own VF Industires". We even sold FIRE calls. The smaller local fire departments didn't have a budget for a paging system, so when there was a fire called into the county dispatch..they would hit a button that would interrupt programming on the FM, and send the dispatch over our FM station..."attention South Macon Volunteer firefighters, we have a report of a dumpster fire behind the Huddle House on 441 South..please respond". THEN...they SOLD a special spot to run right after those fire calls to a local INSURANCE agent..."If that fire had been on your property..would you be adequately insured? Call Rob Hausman at the Independant Insurance group". That commercial ONLY ran after those fire calls. And they only paid based on the number of times it ran per month.

Some would muse after the fact that if the station was falling short some months that somebody could go out and set a few small fires, and..well you know..get to run the spot a few more times..

But that never happened..really. Anyway Art Sutton owns the two stations now and he has made legitimate operations out of them.

Sorry for rambling..my trade-out nurse is here with my bartered medication.
 
Yes, and I remember listening to you Jeff, when I visited Franklin, NC.... Loved it... are you still in Franklin area???
 
On top of a mountain...nearly three miles from the closest living neighbor. 1.3 miles of switchback gravel path leads up here. We don't get many trick or treaters!
 
Thanks for sharing Jeff! Now that's what I'm talking about! Did I ever tell you the one about the guy who stole the radio station? No, not the license, the station?.... :D
 
Is this the guy who allegedly was hired as "Manager" of the station..but the owner understood it to be an LMA?

When the "manager" wasn't paid any money, or given any funds to improve the station as the roof was leaking and the foundation was taking on standing water... he (allegedly) began to slowly sell off pieces of the stations gear on eBay to get money to live on..

The "owner" wanted his LMA money and kept calling him about it. He (allegedly) sold the phone system on eBay.

Eventually he was down to one iPod, and a volumax...and the transmitter.

Allegedly..sold the transmitter on eBay, and talked the fellow who bought it to bring him along to help install it at it's new location.

Grabbed the iPod, threw the main power switch off, and drove away with the transmitter..into the sunset.

A slightly soggy volumax remains to this day.

Is that the one Mike?
 
Love the story, Jeff!
I've seen some real crap operations but nothing even close to the one in your story.
 
No this is long before anyone ever dreamed of E*Bay. This was back in the mid 70's at my first station WFSH (which I mentioned upthread). A few months before I started there the morning man came in on a Sunday and found to his horror that the Beautiful Palm Plaza mini mall studios had been stripped. Not ransacked...stripped down to the walls. Turntables, cart machines, tape decks, mixing boards...chairs...

Later that day the PD was stopped by the FHP for some reason. He was tootling down the road pulling a U-Haul full of the station's equipment. Damned if a know what he was going to do with it, but he sure enough had taken everything that wasn't nailed down.

This is the same guy who was so hot to stay on 24/7 (they signed off at midnight) that he got the bright idea of starting his own broadcasting school. As part of the "curriculum" his "students" were paying for the right to gain on-air experience by pulling the overnight shift.
 
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