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GROOVE RADIO 103.1

Groove Radio/Groove 103.1 MEGA list...all of the songs that the station played in regular rotation during its 2.5 years existance (excluding mix shows and speciality shows). ... ..

http://www.members.tripod.com/mars103/grooveplaylist.htm

DOES ANYBODY KNOW EXACTLY WHICH STATION SPECIFICALLY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE?
I notice the website creator failed to mention exactly which Groove Radio this was at the 103.1 frequency (if there was more than one in the U.S.). I want to assume that I know which station this was, but want to be sure before I jump to conclusions and assume it must be the one I'm thinking. I do remember learning "The Funk Phenomena" and "sugar is sweeter" from The Groove in LA, and all the house & freestyle remixes of Angelina's "release me" they had (which I even called in to request one of them). It was also where I first heard Mon A Q while I was visiting LA for a weekend - they "world premiered", or introduced (what was back then) her new song "stay in love" for the first time and had people vote on it.
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...And what is MARS 103.1?

Sample Playlist from Mars 103,1 FM (taken from Mike's and Sal's post and my memory)

2 Unlimited- Get Ready For This/Twilite Zone

Bigod 20- The Bog

Channel X- Rave The Rhythm

Digital Boy- Give Me A Fat Beat

DJ Dick- Weekend

Draga Khan- Kick Back For The Rave Alarm

Dyewitness- Observing The Earth

Eon- Spice

Gary Numan- Cars

Hairspray- Pacemaker

Intellect- Throw Your Hands Up

LA Style- James Brown Is Dead

Latour- People Are Still Having Sex

The Movement- Jump

My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult- Sex On Wheelz

Nirvana- Smells Like Teen Spirit

NJOI- Mind Flux

Nymphomaniac- I Wan't You Body

The Orb- Little Fluffy Clouds

Quadraphobia- Quadraphobia

Red Hot Chilli Peppers- Give It Away

REM- Losing My Religion

Rosalla- Are You Ready To Fly

Rosalla- Everybody's Free

RTZ- Dance Your Ass Off

T99- Anastasia

Voodoo Child- Voodoo Child


I never heard of Mars 103.1 before.
 
That would be the current KDLD/KDLE (then KSRF/KOCM). They ran the Groove Radio format from 1996-1998. Also ran a similar dance format (MARS-FM) in the early 90s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDLD

Many formats over the years, most notably Indie 103.1, which gave way to the current Spanish-language format a few years ago.
 
I worked as an intern at MARS-FM fall 1991. They had a good playlist (or so I thought in 1991) and I thought the name was quite clever. Mars (the planet) had two small moons compared to our big moon while MARS-FM had two small FMs compared to the big one needed to cover the same area. IMHO quite 8) but YMMV. ;)
 
ajc_trw said:
I worked as an intern at MARS-FM fall 1991. They had a good playlist (or so I thought in 1991) and I thought the name was quite clever. Mars (the planet) had two small moons compared to our big moon while MARS-FM had two small FMs compared to the big one needed to cover the same area. IMHO quite 8) but YMMV. ;)

I remember them spelling it crazy. Something like

M/A/R/R/S FM

I like Dance music in small doses, so I was an occasional listener to both MARS and Groove and liked 'em both.

In fact the earliest incarnation of this board, long before R-I got involved, was a small board set up for fans of Groove Radio to collectively gnash their teeth about the demise of their favorite station. The board quickly though grew into a site devoted to all of LA Radio, however there are a few of you out there (and you know who you are!) who are still using this board to bemoan the state of dance music on LA radio radio and the demise of the dance stations that have come and gone since, like KDL while openly hoping a new dance station will come along.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
ajc_trw said:
I worked as an intern at MARS-FM fall 1991. They had a good playlist (or so I thought in 1991) and I thought the name was quite clever. Mars (the planet) had two small moons compared to our big moon while MARS-FM had two small FMs compared to the big one needed to cover the same area. IMHO quite 8) but YMMV. ;)

I remember them spelling it crazy. Something like

M/A/R/R/S FM

I like Dance music in small doses, so I was an occasional listener to both MARS and Groove and liked 'em both.

In fact the earliest incarnation of this board, long before R-I got involved, was a small board set up for fans of Groove Radio to collectively gnash their teeth about the demise of their favorite station. The board quickly though grew into a site devoted to all of LA Radio, however there are a few of you out there (and you know who you are!) who are still using this board to bemoan the state of dance music on LA radio radio and the demise of the dance stations that have come and gone since, like KDL while openly hoping a new dance station will come along.

No, they spelled it "Mars". You're thinking of the one-off group that did the song "Pump Up The Volume". They spelled it M/A/R/R/S.
 
FightingIrish said:
ChannelFlipper said:
ajc_trw said:
I worked as an intern at MARS-FM fall 1991. They had a good playlist (or so I thought in 1991) and I thought the name was quite clever. Mars (the planet) had two small moons compared to our big moon while MARS-FM had two small FMs compared to the big one needed to cover the same area. IMHO quite 8) but YMMV. ;)

I remember them spelling it crazy. Something like

M/A/R/R/S FM

I like Dance music in small doses, so I was an occasional listener to both MARS and Groove and liked 'em both.

In fact the earliest incarnation of this board, long before R-I got involved, was a small board set up for fans of Groove Radio to collectively gnash their teeth about the demise of their favorite station. The board quickly though grew into a site devoted to all of LA Radio, however there are a few of you out there (and you know who you are!) who are still using this board to bemoan the state of dance music on LA radio radio and the demise of the dance stations that have come and gone since, like KDL while openly hoping a new dance station will come along.

No, they spelled it "Mars". You're thinking of the one-off group that did the song "Pump Up The Volume". They spelled it M/A/R/R/S.

Ahh yes. You are correct. I guess my memory is starting to go and got them mixed up.
 
BTW in addition to groundbreaking alt-music (all kinds, not just dance), MARS also had a stellar DJ lineup: Big Ron O'Brien 6-9 AM, Swedish Egil 9-Noon, Raechel Donahue Noon-3, Freddy Snakeskin 3-6 PM, Rob Francis 6-10 PM, Holly Adams 10-2 AM, Don Bolles 2-6 AM, Christian B & Tony Largo (among others) weekends. They may not have been around for that long, but this is one station I still really miss -- wonder what they'd sound like today?
 
Dave Atonement said:
wonder what they'd sound like today?

Chris Brown - yeah 3x
Cobra Starship - you make me feel
Chris Brown - Beautiful People
Pitbull ft Neyo, Afrojack & Nayer - Give me everything
Nayer ft Pitbull - Suavemente
LMFAO - Party rock anthem
Usher ft Pitbull - Dj got us falling in love (remixes)
Afrojack - take over control
Usher - More
Enrique Iglesias ft Pitbull - I like how it feels
LMFAO - Sexy & I know it
Pitbull - I know you want me
Usher & David Guetta - without you
Calvin Harris - feel so close
Britney Spears - I wanna go
Flo Rida & Aviicii - Good feeling
Britney Spears - Til the world ends
Maroon 5 ft Christina Aguilera - Moves like Jagger
Rihanna - Only girl
Enrique Iglesias - tonight
Rihanna & Calvin Harris - We found love
Edward Maya - Stereo love
INNA - Sun is UP
Benny Benassi - Cinema
Enrique Iglesias - I like it
Deadmau5 - Ghosts N Stuff
Swedish House Mafia - save the world
Alexandra Stan - Mr Saxobeat
Dev - In the dark
Black Eyed Peas - I gotta feeling
Nadia Ali - Pressure
Ke$ha - We r who we r


Something similar to that..... And I wasn't being facetious either.
 
I could see Groove playing some of the songs from that list but from what I gather Mars was more of an alternative dance type of station which would also play some alt. rock such as Nirvana.
 
Sorry, MARS-FM would NEVER have touched anything like your kind of pop-dance fluff, not in a million years.  They were MUCH more adventurous musically -- yes, more like an alt-rock station that also happened to play a lot of techno and other cutting-edge (for 1991-92) progressive dance-flavored music.  Virtually nothing KIIS might have played would have made the cut.  Perhaps over time they would have evolved beyond their 80's KROQ-style alternative roots, but hopefully it would have have been in a more progressive dance-oriented direction.  Britney Spears?  As a diehard MARS listener (and I still have hundreds of hours of tapes to prove it) the very thought makes me want to vomit. No offense, but it makes me sad that when people think of "dance music" on the radio today, the type of lame crap on your list is usually what they mean. Perhaps if MARS-FM had lasted longer it would have had more of an influence in changing the public's perception of this music genre in the long-term, much like KROQ has done over the years for rock music.
 
Dave Atonement said:
Sorry, MARS-FM would NEVER have touched anything like your kind of pop-dance fluff, not in a million years.  They were MUCH more adventurous musically -- yes, more like an alt-rock station that also happened to play a lot of techno and other cutting-edge (for 1991-92) progressive dance-flavored music.  Virtually nothing KIIS might have played would have made the cut.  Perhaps over time they would have evolved beyond their 80's KROQ-style alternative roots, but hopefully it would have have been in a more progressive dance-oriented direction.  Britney Spears?  As a diehard MARS listener (and I still have hundreds of hours of tapes to prove it) the very thought makes me want to vomit.  No offense, but it makes me sad that when people think of "dance music" on the radio today, the type of lame crap on your list is usually what they mean.  Perhaps if MARS-FM had lasted longer it would have had more of an influence in changing the public's perception of this music genre in the long-term, much like KROQ has done over the years for rock music.

You're assuming that the station would've evolved to sound and operate identically to the way it was about 20 years ago, today in 2011, and that the same exact staff and pd / md would still be in control, and that they'd operate independently and ignore the national / international trends. It reminds me of how, for the longest time, I was highly upset about losing 103.9 Arizona's Party Station and always wished for it to come back until one day I woke up in 2007 and realized that even if they were still around, it would've surely sounded different from what I remembered and loved. Heck, there are times even dating UP to 2010 AND LATER that I still come to LA in denial about how much 99.1 KGGI, Q104.7, Jammin Z90, and even Power 106 has changed - and I even know better now! ...Yet, despite the fact I know better now, I still get this "false hope" every time I go to LA that the past would come back (as some of you can tell based on the types of posts I post here every time I come to LA). I'd wait up all night for the mix shows, only to hear Lil Wayne "how to love"..etc. and then I'd start weeping uncontrollably as I got punched in the face with REALITY.

The hard and gruesome fact is that times have changed. Music has evolved. Dance itself has evolved, and it no longer sounds as it did 20 years ago. People cannot just dismiss modern dance and say it's not dance - based purely on the fact that they are unhappy with it! By the way; This also goes for the hip hop generation who are disappointed with the silly hip hop songs being released these days and the alternative/rock fans who are unhappy with the modern rock sound.

Things change, and... it is what it is.

By the way, I forgot to mention that my list was supposed to represent what Groove may have sounded like today, not MARS. If it were MARS, then surely some Maroon 5, Hot Chelle Rae, David Guetta and Foster The People along with LMFAO and One Republic...etc. would've been added in. Again, I'm trying not to appear facetious with this list of artists I presented, but... .. ...| And lets say they kept their alternative rock lean dance format, then they'd be in BIG trouble today! Oh, and I forgot about 3OH!3 "don't trust me"  and Katy Perry! ;D (Ok, I just gave up on trying not to appear facetious.)
 
I think that kind of station could possibly work on say Amp, just because its still somewhat new and can get away with tweaking the music with out pissing off the core audience. KIIS could never pull it off, and KBIG skews too old in the demo numbers. Power should have just gone back to its Rythmic CHR days instead of holding on to the DEAD "Hip Hop Station". The funny thing is the music would probably sound mostly the same, minus the hip hop that isnt dancy.
 
Mars wouldn't hold the format successfully if they stayed the same without the electro-hip hop hits, due to the fact that alternative is doing rather poorly overall as a format, nationwide. They'd have to tweak or change something and lean towards a different direction of sound to a certain degree. They'd probably go more towards an "underground" pop sound mixed with current less hip hop leaning pop dance tracks and dubstep, at the least. And didn't Amp just pull some of their highest numbers in a while?

As far as Power 106 "Where Hip Hop Lives", they basically have no real hip hop competition, so keeping the "Where Hip Hop Lives" slogan also attracts the (unserved) hip hop crowd in addition to their main goal of attracting their target rhythmic audience. They're trying to "kill a few birds with one stone". But then again, I'm not sure if a resurrection of an urban station in LA would make it MORE sensible for Power to drop the slogan since it would probably only make them wish to use it and hold that title more. I guess either way, it wouldn't make any more or less sense for them to use it that it does now. I would guess that if Power went back to its CHR roots, KAMP or somebody else would probably try to fill in the more urban sound, and the only difference would be that the radio dial would probably look the same, except the hip hop station wouldn't play as much dance as Power 106 does. .. But now that I think of it, it probably wouldn't matter since Power 106 probably would've been much more dance as a CHR, so it would make up for the other Power 106 replacement hip hop station that wasn't so dance friendly.
 
KDM 7000 said:
They'd have to tweak or change something and lean towards a different direction of sound to a certain degree. They'd probably go more towards an "underground" pop sound mixed with current less hip hop leaning pop dance tracks and dubstep, at the least. ...

I guess they could've also skewed a bit more towards recurrents and classic alternative pop and dance as time progressed mixed with some new material. They would surely have to pay attention to new material from Lady Gaga, Foster The People, David Guetta, Deadmau5, LMFAO, etc.
 
Highly questionable whether MARS could have survived in a PPM world, they took too many musical chances. They were full of surprises, not all of them good ones, but that was part of the appeal. It's very unfortunate the capacity to surprise listeners musically is no longer part of the radio landscape. Too bad the Internet came along too late to do MARS any good, they obviously would have been all over it from the beginning. And BTW I wasn't talking about what other programmers or music formats would have done with the 103.1 frequency, we've seen too many of those scenarios play out already...(Indie was undoubtedly the most worthy successor, but obviously an entirely different format.)
 
Tony Santiago said:
If Groove Radio 103.1 was around now, be sure dubstep would have been incorporated into the format.

It was that type of station. It would have NEVER sounded like a 97.1 Amp Radio.

Are there any dance stations, like this one you're mentioning (incorporatin dubstep yet not playing dancey, 'amp radio'-sounding pop) that are actually WINNING in any U.S. market?
 
To the previous poster's question, let alone 'winning' stations, there are only 2 or 3 commercial 'Pure Dance' stations on the FM dial (non LP, non HD2) in the entire U.S. and two of them are in one area (Vegas).
 
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