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GSN really messed up big time

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Hello. Somehow GSN messed up the tapes of 3 episodes of the Bill Cullen version of Blockbusters and thus they couldn't air them a few weeks ago and and it appears those 3 shows are lost forever. according to someone at Liberty Media co-owner of GSN "apparently a lot of the original master tapes for older shows have tape/audio damage that can't be repaired or replaced and therefore are not good enough quality for airing". I'm shocked by this because they aired the 3 episodes in question years ago on the network schedule. My question to you is GSN at fault for messing up the tapes. Weeks ago, GSN did air episodes 367 and 369 of Blockbusters but not the other 3 shows. Here is the info on the 3 episodes in question:
368 4/20/82 John Mark & Stephanie
(brother/sister) Show starts in the middle of game 1
According to an F question, Bela Lagosi turned down the role
of Frankenstein's monster because he had no actual lines . 370 4/22/82 Marge Kim & Nina Match tied 1-1; show begins with the start of game 3
Marge d. Nina & Kim 2-1; wins $400 in the first Gold Run
loss in 29 attempts, which included this response:
Bill: Head of NBC. Marge: Goodson-Todman?
Marge & Nina are brought back for the new match after a
question in G2 of the previous match was written wrong
The letter Z is chosen to start the new match
371 4/23/82 Marge Nina & Kim Show starts in the middle of game 1
Nina & Kim d. Marge ($1,400) 2-0; Nina wins $5,000 in :33
New player Gene, a former 10-time champion, returns for a
single game, which she defeats Nina & Kim ($6,500) in a sweep
Gene wins $5,000 for the game, giving her a total for $51,700
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Julius May said:
according to someone at Liberty Media co-owner of GSN "apparently a lot of the original master tapes for older shows have tape/audio damage that can't be repaired or replaced and therefore are not good enough quality for airing". I'm shocked by this because they aired the 3 episodes in question years ago on the network schedule. My question to you is GSN at fault for messing up the tapes.
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Who cares? ::) Older programming not aging nicely is nothing new. Just because they aired them years ago does not mean they are able to be aired now. Perhaps their policies are different now than they were years ago.

Plus, what proof do you have that GSN messed up the tapes, as you are accusing them of doing?

Yeah, I didn't think so. ::)
 
network said:
Who cares? ::) Older programming not aging nicely is nothing new. Just because they aired them years ago does not mean they are able to be aired now. Perhaps their policies are different now than they were years ago.

Plus, what proof do you have that GSN messed up the tapes, as you are accusing them of doing?

Yeah, I didn't think so. ::)
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I don't know if they did but its possible. GSN skipped 3 episodes of the final week of Blockbusters weeks ago. That tells me something is not right, right away. BTW you should care because GSN if it is their fault so really do a better job of taking care of its master tapes of game show episodes
 
Does GSN have the rights to all of the episodes? Sorry, I never watch that channel. Just thought that was a good question.
 
Kevin Lagasse said:
Does GSN have the rights to all of the episodes? Sorry, I never watch that channel. Just thought that was a good question.
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Yes they do, I think.
 
Julius May said:
Kevin Lagasse said:
Does GSN have the rights to all of the episodes?
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Yes they do, I think.
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But even so, FremantleMedia, which owns the G-T library, owns the masters -- GSN only has copies for the shows that they have rights to. If there are any episodes lost to NBC's tape erasures, or just plain lost, NBC's to blame, not GSN nor Fremantle.
 
azumanga said:
But even so, FremantleMedia, which owns the G-T library, owns the masters -- GSN only has copies for the shows that they have rights to. If there are any episodes lost to NBC's tape erasures, or just plain lost, NBC's to blame, not GSN nor Fremantle.
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Did anyone read my first post? GSN has aired these 3 episodes before: 368, 370 and 371 from 1982 and the last airing of the shows was a few years ago. Something must have happened with the 3 episodes from the last GSN airings until when they was supposed to air weeks ago. Those 3 shows existed but something happened in the last few months or years caused GSN to skip those episodes of Blockbusters this time around.
 
Julius May said:
azumanga said:
But even so, FremantleMedia, which owns the G-T library, owns the masters -- GSN only has copies for the shows that they have rights to. If there are any episodes lost to NBC's tape erasures, or just plain lost, NBC's to blame, not GSN nor Fremantle.
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Did anyone read my first post? GSN has aired these 3 episodes before: 368, 370 and 371 from 1982 and the last airing of the shows was a few years ago. Something must have happened with the 3 episodes from the last GSN airings until when they was supposed to air weeks ago. Those 3 shows existed but something happened in the last few months or years caused GSN to skip those episodes of Blockbusters this time around.
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Are they skipping due to bad condition of tape, or speeding up elimination of the show from GSN?
 
It seems like I can remember hearing of something like this happening with other older shows on GSN, but it makes me wonder, wouldn't it make sense for them to make backups of the shows they have rights to? If they don't they should.

Perhaps this is a question for GSN's message board.
 
Julius May said:
Did anyone read my first post? GSN has aired these 3 episodes before: 368, 370 and 371 from 1982 and the last airing of the shows was a few years ago. Something must have happened with the 3 episodes from the last GSN airings until when they was supposed to air weeks ago. Those 3 shows existed but something happened in the last few months or years caused GSN to skip those episodes of Blockbusters this time around.
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Yeah, we DID read your first post. And I called you out on your accusations. In your response, you stated you don't have any proof. Which is exactly what I thought.

And I also told you that perhaps their policies have changed since then. Maybe they are more strict on quality issues than back then. Others have also pointed out other possibilities as well. Yeah, something MUST have happened, but you were out of line to accuse GSN of intentionally damaging the tapes. That's just, well, outright ignorant.

How about learning a little bit about this industry before taking your shots from the grassy knoll. ::)
 
Hi everyone:
Buddy Hayes said:
A nation mourns.
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Yes. We now bow our heads for a moment of silence as we mourn the loss of copies of three shows from the early 80s which may still be replaceable provided Fremantle has the master tapes.

Julius, do you have ANY idea how RIDICULOUS (If not utterly FRIVOLOUS to boot) this thread (And your beef) is?

PUH-LEAZE.

Just when you really started to look like you were contributing something useful in the thread about local stations airing Bush's speech too.... *sigh*

Just my opinion...

Cheers :D
 
Pat Cook said:
We now bow our heads for a moment of silence as we mourn the loss of copies of three shows from the early 80s which may still be replaceable provided Fremantle has the master tapes.
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Since they "were" in GSN's library until recently, I think I can safely say that if they were genuinely lost, Fremantle would replace them in a heartbeat. It's just like losing a disposable Bic pen -- I could always go to the drugstore to get a new one.
 
These shows were not damaged by GSN, they were "disappeared" by unknown entities because of questionable content and secretly coded messages. If you take the second syllable of each correct answer in these shows, you can find phrases as "Trilateral commission," "black helicopters," "new world order," "dark forces compel me" and others.

In addition, at the end of each of these three shows, Bill Cullen flashes several mysterious hand gestures and also shows off his Grand Vizier Super Poobah Masonic Pin.

Mr. Cullen died under mysterious circumstances soon after these shows originally aired.
 
Julius,
I looked on GSN's board and saw where you did bring up the question, and I think the answer you got is all that can be done. Hopefully this was just a human error and you can catch the missing episodes in the next sycle. If the tape has failed there isn't much else you can do unless you can find it from traders. I don't think you'll get any different answer anywhere else.

The question of backups has peaked my curiosity though and I'll ask it on GSN's board.
 
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