Would you believe RTV, The Retro Television Network? The A-Team was on and sure enough there was the WSAH top hour ID with RTV branding leading into Magnum, P.I.
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Guess what came back on WSAH?
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Wow, that is great news. Hopefully it's here to stay this time. It's hard to believe considering all the problems WSAH had with them 2 years ago. I can't believe it's already been 2 years! I just checked zap2it.com and sure enough, it has RTV listings for WSAH. I wonder how long it's been back on? Maybe if Ron still posts here he can share more.
ansky212 said:
It launched at 12am on June 6, 2011. With the new ownership (Lee Schubert and the MTBL Trust) and the new management team at Titan, it was decided to go for it. Also RTV is under new/old management, Neal Ardman is no longer involved, with Henry Luken taking a more active hands-on role. That latter part was the major reason RTV failed last time. The temperaments of the two management teams is more compatible this time around.
For reasons unknown, RTV chose not to publicize the switch and just allowed it to happen quietly. RTV is essentially carried from 12p to 12a with paid programming from 12a to 12p with options to expand on it as profitability improves.
Also RTV is under new/old management, Neal Ardman is no longer involved, with Henry Luken taking a more active hands-on role. That latter part was the major reason RTV failed last time. The temperaments of the two management teams is more compatible this time around. [/quote]
When did this happen? Is Ardman even still with the company?
It's no surprise Luken is taking an active role - considering they've lost 15 odd affiliates, mostly to MeTV since the first of the year. Things seem quiet on the PB&J front.
Now if they'd only do something about their Facebook page - They hardly post,or supply information and there's no link on their website. Does anyone really beleive it was a "Facebook glitch" the caused the old one to disappear? 9000+ Followers.
When did this happen? Is Ardman even still with the company?
It's no surprise Luken is taking an active role - considering they've lost 15 odd affiliates, mostly to MeTV since the first of the year. Things seem quiet on the PB&J front.
Now if they'd only do something about their Facebook page - They hardly post,or supply information and there's no link on their website. Does anyone really beleive it was a "Facebook glitch" the caused the old one to disappear? 9000+ Followers.
mysticnitekatt said:
I can't go into much detail, but... 1) Yes 2) That would be why 3) rrriiiggghhhttt
Before the RTV Facebook page disappeared, there were people posting questions regarding the lack of close captioning on most of the shows. I wonder if it's connected.
Maybe with Luken running the show,they can get their act together and improve their lack of public relations with the viewers.
Not holding my breath for PB&J or RTV2.
Maybe with Luken running the show,they can get their act together and improve their lack of public relations with the viewers.
Not holding my breath for PB&J or RTV2.
I tuned in for a little while last night and it seems the lip synch issues are back. Not nearly as bad as they were last time, but still noticeable.
RTV really needs to do something about their programming lineup or they won't have much of a future. I would't be surprised if that's why they are losing affiliates. It's the same few shows today that they had on 5 years ago when the network started. Have they ever added anything new? Their website shows a fairly large library but only a handful of those shows actually air. Antenna TV has only been on the air 6 months and they are already making changes to their lineup.
RTV really needs to do something about their programming lineup or they won't have much of a future. I would't be surprised if that's why they are losing affiliates. It's the same few shows today that they had on 5 years ago when the network started. Have they ever added anything new? Their website shows a fairly large library but only a handful of those shows actually air. Antenna TV has only been on the air 6 months and they are already making changes to their lineup.
mysticnitekatt said:
It appears to be 99% fixed. The issue was the receivers. Just before we left last time, Sencore had rolled out a version that worked. RTV's Chief Engineer tells me they then broke it, fixed it, broke it again, and RTV eventually went with a CHEAPER receiver that's 100% more reliable. I'm reserving judgement but it's been pretty good for a month now (we had been tuned in for awhile before launch).
You won't ever see RTV2 or PBJ or Tuff or MyFamilyTV on cable, dishes or telco. They only have to carry the main channel and a little station like mine has almost zero chance of carriage like WFSB or WVIT have in the digital tier.
ansky212 said:
That's kind of the nature of the beast. The RTV Chief Engineer has asked me to capture it so he can yell at his encoder manufacturer, they are taking that very seriously.
Get your wishes known to RTV, their contact-us link should work, and I'm told the social media issues are being addressed. The lineup can change basically quarterly... and we can pick and choose which ones, though they have the research people in place to figure out what will actually satisfy the most in a given market.
Ron said:
There are markets with customized feeds that have made only small changes over the last couple of years. But then where does it say a station has to change it's line up every 3-6-9-12 months? If a local station is happy with most of of the shows they are running - especially if it's a series with 100-150 or more episodes. Even the national feed has been stable - they did rotate in a bunch of shows from Peter Rogers Org. and the kids shows from Classic Media a year ago.
The big question is what made several station groups decide to switch from RTV to MeTV? Was it simply MGM/ Weigel offering sweetheart package deals with THIS TV, or station group owners unhappy with the former management team of RTV - or Both? The 3 classic TV networks each have a flavor of their own and are really not 100% interchangeable,but compatible with each other.
I lurk over on the RTV Facebook page (Old and new) and there seems to be a few anti-RTV folks who complain that they don't come on an answer questions,etc. It's not like MeTV and Antenna TV where they have interns who spend all day answering questions with stock replies. If it wasn't for one or two educated viewers who actually explain how things works (The carriage issue of sub-channels,who's got exclusive deals with which channels) it would be the blind leading the blind.
Any word on when PBJ & RTV2 is supposed to launch?
I think the station groups flipped because they were unhappy with RTV. Plus, Me-TV seems to
have a better library of shows.
One of the main issues I had is they would show an Adam 12 episode on Monday and then
you'd see the same show again on Thursday. That's no way to run a network. They would do
that over and over.
have a better library of shows.
One of the main issues I had is they would show an Adam 12 episode on Monday and then
you'd see the same show again on Thursday. That's no way to run a network. They would do
that over and over.
Maybe Ron can answer this! Is it just me or is WSAH only playing RTV's commercials? I use FTA satellite and it seems to me that they are the same on both sat and WSAH.How can you make any money without showing any of your own commercials?
ansky212 said:
Exactly it takes time, the infomercials overnight are ours though, sold by us, RTV simply ingests and plays them for us.
Ron, is the plan to sell local advertising exclusively to Fairfield County where WSAH has OTA coverage? Since the cable/satellite coverage area is so large, expanding all the way into central NJ, will there be local ads specific to different cable/satellite/telco providers? Just curious as to how it all works...
gregg75 said:
It's unlikely EVERY station group that made the switch was unhappy with RTV. Sweetheart bundle deals with THIS TV was clearly a factor - even if not all the stations in the group air THIS TV.
RTV has focused on hour dramas from the Universal Library (and a handful from The Peter Rogers Org.) However, MeTV snagged the CBS Television Syndication Library, which is one of the largest classic TV libraries. (Which begs the question why even pick up shows from 20th Television?) so they have an advantage - especially if a group wants a better balanced channel - RTV is heavy drama,and ANTENNA TV is heavy sitcom. MeTV is balanced with both comedies and hour dramas.
RTV fixed those "re-re-rerun" issues months ago. But I agree, I don't know what their problems have been, and I really haven't seen any changes - their little "new" Facebook page must be the plague to them as they never respond or say anything.
Ok, they don't have interns like MeTV or ANTENNA TV that can do nothing but respond to the FACEBOOK posting - but do the even give a damn about their viewers? Their Loyal Viewers who even with MeTV and ANTENNA TV stay faithful?
I hope they treat their affiliates better than they do their viewers! Well, the remaining affiliates. They new MeTV and ANTENNA TV were coming, how could they let stations jump ship. Clearly some people wen't doing a good job over there.
I figure they could easily lose another 15 affiliates if Cox and Media-General drop RTV for MeTV if they decide not to keep both. Both station groups signed deals to add MeTV to their stations recently.
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