Guess who …

[Mike_Rafone]

… stayed with regular programming and did not carry the memorial moments in NYC (or presumably in Washington of Pennsylvania) this morning? I'm certain the national network with which they are affiliated provided material.
… allowed their morning host to ramble, prattle on about his own personal reactions to those events of 2001?

What a shocking total disregard to a tragic time in our nation's history, but an accurate reflection of their attitude towards serious broadcast journalism. What arrogance on his part!

A HINT: Naw, I think you can figure it out.

But kudos to AN106.7 for carrying the ABC coverages.

 

[Gringo Bandito]

Are we supposed to drop everything every single 9/11?

 

[ExNuYawker]

Are we supposed to drop everything every single 9/11?

Yes we are. It is called Patriotism!

 

[BarryATL]

Are we supposed to drop everything every single 9/11?

Yes, more people were killed on 9/11 than were killed at Pearl Harbor. The media still covers the annual memorial held atop the sunken USS Arizona in Pearl Harbor and the attack on Pearl Harbor was 72 years ago.

Back to the subject of this thread... ABC Radio's coverage of the moment of silence and the remembrance at The Pentagon was spot on. The sounds were right, it was respectful, and newsworthy.

ABC did play a bad trick on it's affiliates. Immediately following the special report of the moment of silence ABC played a too cheery, upbeat promo. It did not fit the somber mood of the programming. To make it worse, it was send down the line so tight that the affiliates could not drop without cutting off the promo mid-sentence. AN106.7 was potting down and realized they could not without sounding like they killed something mid-sentence. So, the pot went back up for the remaining six or seven seconds of the offending promo.

 

[Mike_Rafone]

ABC did play a bad trick on it's affiliates.

Either someone in Net Ops failed to give a valid outcue for the stations or Master Control jumped too fast in rolling the promo. Sounded like AN106.7 was going by the outcue from the reporter when that thing got run in on them. But at least they were there.

Are we supposed to drop everything every single 9/11?

In addition to patriotism, there is something called "respect" that this country seems to be losing. Sorry it was an inconvenience for you, Gringo Bandito.

 

[Gringo Bandito]

In addition to patriotism, there is something called "respect" that this country seems to be losing. Sorry it was an inconvenience for you, Gringo Bandito.

How is it disrespectful to not continue to harp on something that happened years ago as if it is still a newsworthy event?

 

[BarryATL]

When AN106.7 was announced as a new format we all speculated as to what WSB's response would be. On the boards we talked about possibly adding a news hour in the evening, maybe splitting the AM/FM and have all news on one or the other, etc. So far, the only response has been to have Captain Herb slow down how fast he talks.

As we watch the ratings (and all I have seen are the 6+) it would seem that AN106.7 has taken a small bite out of WSB. It is a very small bite, but big enough to drop them from #2 in the market. It does not seem normal for Cox to roll over and play dead. What are they doing that I have missed?

Yes, WSB should have been all over this story today. Our local TV stations were and so was the only other radio station that does news.

 

[PirateJohnny]

… stayed with regular programming and did not carry the memorial moments in NYC (or presumably in Washington of Pennsylvania) this morning? I'm certain the national network with which they are affiliated provided material.
… allowed their morning host to ramble, prattle on about his own personal reactions to those events of 2001?

What a shocking total disregard to a tragic time in our nation's history, but an accurate reflection of their attitude towards serious broadcast journalism. What arrogance on his part!

A HINT: Naw, I think you can figure it out.

But kudos to AN106.7 for carrying the ABC coverages.

NBC's Today Show?

 

[agentUrge]

Yeah...who failed at their job?

In addition to patriotism, there is something called "respect" that this country seems to be losing.

Think we've been loosing that since we started seeing ads capitalizing on the tragedy.

Look at this! We're going to tug at your patriotic heartstrings while showing you chilling images of the planes crashing in to WTC 1 & 2 along with photos of the field and the burning pentagon and then ramp up your patriotic spirits by trying to sell you coins made from gold found at site of ground zero. Why? Because we're America and we believe in capitalism no matter how much in poor taste it may appear to be to others.

 

[RoddyFreeman]

As we watch the ratings (and all I have seen are the 6+) it would seem that AN106.7 has taken a small bite out of WSB. It is a very small bite, but big enough to drop them from #2 in the market. It does not seem normal for Cox to roll over and play dead. What are they doing that I have missed?

WSB did change its TOH ID/Sweeper to something like, "Atlanta's #1 station for news, weather and traffic, on air and online" from "Atlanta's news, weather and traffic station."

 

[MRFLASHPORT]

Yeah...who failed at their job?

In addition to patriotism, there is something called "respect" that this country seems to be losing.

Think we've been loosing that since we started seeing ads capitalizing on the tragedy.

Look at this! We're going to tug at your patriotic heartstrings while showing you chilling images of the planes crashing in to WTC 1 & 2 along with photos of the field and the burning pentagon and then ramp up your patriotic spirits by trying to sell you coins made from gold found at site of ground zero. Why? Because we're America and we believe in capitalism no matter how much in poor taste it may appear to be to others.

Well stated.

Corporate media just using the worst time in our history to capitalize on it to sell ads, "watch the towers fall and people dangling out of windows" segue to another big pharma ad for some anti-depression pill, or buy that Lexus so you too can appear successful.

That's pure gangster capitalism at work, sell sell sell, who cares about ethics, decency and honesty when the motto is not "do onto others as they would do unto you" but more like "SCREW unto others before they SCREW unto you"

and how well is this working out for us?

 

[BarryATL]

Calling the station "you-know-who" almost sounds like a Harry Potter reference.

 

[Mike_Rafone]

Calling the station "you-know-who" almost sounds like a Harry Potter reference.

Maybe so, but the point was made.

NBC's Today Show?

Yeah, them, too.

 

[Mike_Rafone]

How is it disrespectful to not continue to harp on something that happened years ago as if it is still a newsworthy event?

Using Gringo's standard, I suppose we need to put aside the 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veteran's Day, MLK Day, Flag Day, Christmas, Channaka, Easter, Passover, John Glenn's flight, Apollo 11, the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima …

9/11 was, and still is, a newsworthy event -- only the third time in 221 years our nation's own turf has been attacked. I still get excited listening to the complete broadcasts of the D-Day and V-E and V-J days.

There are just some things we need to never forget. And if it takes dumping regularly scheduled programming to do it, so be it!

 

[MRFLASHPORT]

Remember, respect...absolutely.

But tell me what is the value of running the hour/two-hour long videos of the WTC getting hit, bodies falling, and dead fellow public safety workers?

I work in this business, trust me not a DAY GOES BY where we forget 9/11/2001. Many of us were there, or know someone who was, or worse yet one of the 343 who did not make it back to quarters after the initial dispatch.

There is NO VALUE in showing repeated, horrific images for hours on end on prime time TV at this point. Do you think the families of our fallen brothers and sisters need to see this shit all over television as if they haven't had their lives turned upside down enough? Can't the media put down their vulture culture soda for ONE DAY to allow these people to have peace? Isn't this what it is SUPPOSED to be about?

Broadcast a story on the many memorials, fine. A moment of silence on all TV networks at the times of impact would have been fine- respectful, tasteful and with dignity.

There is no dignity to those murdered by constantly showing the hundreds of hours of "as it happened" video like the ABC/History Channel and countless others TV networks did. I am sick of these people using my fellow fallen brother and sister public safety workers bloody end as another excuse to sell crap for corporate America. Not to mention this only serves to desensitize people to the events that took place.

If someone has a desire to see these hours of video, go on YouTube and eat your sick heart out gazing like a rubber neck at the thousands of hours of video available from every friggin camera in NYC and DC that was rolling. Whatever floats your twisted boat.

But please, don't think for a minute these corporate broadcasters give a rat's ass about the families of the victims of this tragedy, if they did they would not be trying to capitalize on it 11 years later.

(How about some REAL news, like the countless numbers of volunteers and mutual aid responders who to this DAY have died, or are sick, from working at Ground Zero. Let's talk about what a disservice we have done to them not providing the same health care we give these fat senators who suck up their Medicaid oxygen while ignoring those who do the REAL work of the people driving ambulances and pumper trucks instead of driving cushy desks. Oh wait, that's boring and no one cares...)

 

[jfrancispastirchak]

In addition to patriotism, there is something called "respect" that this country seems to be losing. Sorry it was an inconvenience for you, Gringo Bandito.

How is it disrespectful to not continue to harp on something that happened years ago as if it is still a newsworthy event?

You are confused. Yes, you have a right to ignore the proceedings, but you also have an obligation to respect the rights of 9/11 mourners to publicly grieve their losses. These courageous survivors seek closure in the wake of an indescribably horrible crime for which there will never be satisfactory justice.

Marginalizing 9/11, a day you claim is no longer "a newsworthy event..." betrays your ignorance. As famed philosopher George Santayana wrote, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Please note that Santayana, a lifelong citizen of Spain, so embraced our country's values that "(he) identified himself as an American" (Wikipedia).

In the course of events "that happened years ago", 3000 human beings, including grandpas and grandmas, fathers, mothers and children, were slaughtered, many by incineration, at the hands of homocidal maniacs touting a twisted slogan of hatred against America. This, my confused patriot, qualifies 9/11 as a legitimate news story, even today.

Yes, 9/11 "is still a newsworthy event", for, as Santayana also wrote, "Only the dead have seen the end of the war".

 

[Gringo Bandito]

In addition to patriotism, there is something called "respect" that this country seems to be losing. Sorry it was an inconvenience for you, Gringo Bandito.

How is it disrespectful to not continue to harp on something that happened years ago as if it is still a newsworthy event?

You are confused. Yes, you have a right to ignore the proceedings, but you also have an obligation to respect the rights of 9/11 mourners to publicly grieve their losses. These courageous survivors seek closure in the wake of an indescribably horrible crime for which there will never be satisfactory justice.

Marginalizing 9/11, a day you claim is no longer "a newsworthy event..." betrays your ignorance. As famed philosopher George Santayana wrote, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Please note that Santayana, a lifelong citizen of Spain, so embraced our country's values that "(he) identified himself as an American" (Wikipedia).

In the course of events "that happened years ago", 3000 human beings, including grandpas and grandmas, fathers, mothers and children, were slaughtered, many by incineration, at the hands of homocidal maniacs touting a twisted slogan of hatred against America. This, my confused patriot, qualifies 9/11 as a legitimate news story, even today.

Yes, 9/11 "is still a newsworthy event", for, as Santayana also wrote, "Only the dead have seen the end of the war".

You confuse newsworthy with historical. There is no news being made about an event from 11 years ago. I just don't see the need to drop everything and air the exact same memorial services that have been held for the last 11 years.

 

[BarryATL]

In addition to patriotism, there is something called "respect" that this country seems to be losing. Sorry it was an inconvenience for you, Gringo Bandito.

How is it disrespectful to not continue to harp on something that happened years ago as if it is still a newsworthy event?

You are confused. Yes, you have a right to ignore the proceedings, but you also have an obligation to respect the rights of 9/11 mourners to publicly grieve their losses. These courageous survivors seek closure in the wake of an indescribably horrible crime for which there will never be satisfactory justice.

Marginalizing 9/11, a day you claim is no longer "a newsworthy event..." betrays your ignorance. As famed philosopher George Santayana wrote, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Please note that Santayana, a lifelong citizen of Spain, so embraced our country's values that "(he) identified himself as an American" (Wikipedia).

In the course of events "that happened years ago", 3000 human beings, including grandpas and grandmas, fathers, mothers and children, were slaughtered, many by incineration, at the hands of homocidal maniacs touting a twisted slogan of hatred against America. This, my confused patriot, qualifies 9/11 as a legitimate news story, even today.

Yes, 9/11 "is still a newsworthy event", for, as Santayana also wrote, "Only the dead have seen the end of the war".

You confuse newsworthy with historical. There is no news being made about an event from 11 years ago. I just don't see the need to drop everything and air the exact same memorial services that have been held for the last 11 years.

By your same argument, the memorial service held for the last 72 years at Pearl Harbor should not be covered. It is covered every year by the media. Sorry, but news is what people what to see, and 9/11 is still a huge raw nerve for a lot of people in this country. It is newsworthy.

 

[Mike_Rafone]

MrFlashPort - your points are valid. There is something sick and obscene about showing the carnage over and over. Kind of like showing a Muslim beheading repeatedly. But if it takes doing that to get people to recognize what happened, then we have to do it. The films of Pearl Harbor show shops burning with men still trapped inside. There is film of the landings in Normandy where you see soldiers fall. We can't insultate ourselves from all the horror. If that is the best an outlet can do to re-ignite pride and American spirit, then I suppose we have to do it.

 

[Mike_Rafone]

I just don't see the need to drop everything and air the exact same memorial services that have been held for the last 11 years.

I guess you don't support the Memorial Day concerts and "A Capitol Fourth" concerts broadcasts either. And let's drop the New Year's Eve shows from NYC as well.