Buzzing through Dorchester on 93 I picked up what sounded like a typical Haitian pirate on 93.5. Is this a new one? I don't remember hearing it before or seeing reference to it on this board.
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Haitian Pirate at 93.5. New?
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I work in Ashmont Train Station area of Dorchestera nd I heard it.
I don't get it. That's what make me upset is, 93.7 can not be heard inside of Boston when you listen by walkman, anywhere inside Boston (Downtown, Park Street area, China Town, South Boston, South End-You can get it a tiny bit in South End and parts of Roxbury but a tiny bit, Dorchester, Comm Ave area, Allston, Brighton, Brookline Ma, Charlestown, Cambridge) 93.7, 97.7 can not be heard in those areas inside Boston when you listen on a walkman, any walkman, new and old, I assume it's the same when you live or work there too (Driving around you get it with a good car stereo antanna) But I'm talking about when you listen by walkman, any walkman, new and old, I assume it's the same when you use a Table Top Radio, and listen at home and work. You can not hear 93.7, 94.5, 97.7, 98.5, 101.7, and 103.3) in those parts of Boston. These are when you listen to any walkman.
I don't get it, these pirates can do it, they can be heard in those cities, why can't those major stations higher their signal so everyone in those cities can listen. I don't see why not. They just don't want to because they (think) their listenners are outside the city. That's why Star 93.7 didn't last long, because they could not be heard in those areas of Boston. I'm not saying throw away their current towers, just add another tower somewhere inside the city so those major stations can be heard all throughout inside Boston.
I still say Star 93.7 should return, and get a better signal for all of inside Boston.
I don't get it. That's what make me upset is, 93.7 can not be heard inside of Boston when you listen by walkman, anywhere inside Boston (Downtown, Park Street area, China Town, South Boston, South End-You can get it a tiny bit in South End and parts of Roxbury but a tiny bit, Dorchester, Comm Ave area, Allston, Brighton, Brookline Ma, Charlestown, Cambridge) 93.7, 97.7 can not be heard in those areas inside Boston when you listen on a walkman, any walkman, new and old, I assume it's the same when you live or work there too (Driving around you get it with a good car stereo antanna) But I'm talking about when you listen by walkman, any walkman, new and old, I assume it's the same when you use a Table Top Radio, and listen at home and work. You can not hear 93.7, 94.5, 97.7, 98.5, 101.7, and 103.3) in those parts of Boston. These are when you listen to any walkman.
I don't get it, these pirates can do it, they can be heard in those cities, why can't those major stations higher their signal so everyone in those cities can listen. I don't see why not. They just don't want to because they (think) their listenners are outside the city. That's why Star 93.7 didn't last long, because they could not be heard in those areas of Boston. I'm not saying throw away their current towers, just add another tower somewhere inside the city so those major stations can be heard all throughout inside Boston.
I still say Star 93.7 should return, and get a better signal for all of inside Boston.
Entercom isn't going to dump a format that makes them money, although if they do Star 93.7 jockless and IF it gets good ratings, I could see it. The thing is the "we play everything" format they have does better than Star 93.7 did. If it tanks in the ratings and they figure Star would do better
they'd go to it again, though I'd think they'd consider putting WEEI on before they'd do that.
It all depends on demographics, mass appeal. More people tend to listen to what they do as Mike
than what they did as Star. If you get an HD radio you can hear Funkytown which I guess is
similar to Star and maybe they still stream Star online (more likely they are streaming Funkytown
instead). Once again I have to bring up that moment on the very first episode of WKRP in Cincinnatti when the station's owner tells the new program director, "Young man, this radio station is business. It is not here for your personal listening pleasure". And the people at Entercom, whether it's Jason and Julie on Guest St. or the higher-ups in Bala Cynwyd, PA (just down the street from where
my furry convention used to be held in Philly!), they have an eye on business.
Similarly if WRKO continues its ratings slide, you would poss. get a new format there.
Pirate at 93.5--def. too close to a legit station, and if anyone from Entercom is reading this
I'm sure they're asking the FCC to shut them down.
I don't really go into Boston but if that 93.7 signal can't be heard on Walkman, etc., then
I can't understand it. I drove by that huge tower in Peabody yesterday. It must be about
15 mi. or so, maybe less, from downtown Bos. at least. If a Walkman can't pick up 93.7
in downtown then either the Walkman is defective or crappy, or the station is weaker
than I thought. Of course at the post office where I work, maybe 5 mi. from that stick,
93.7 comes in well even despite those new lights are causing problems for both AM and FM.
(It's a struggle to pick up 96.9 in there, but wasn't before.) But of course, it's because it's
5 miles away. All Classical 99.5, with a stick in Andover, also comes in well of course.
But you say any Walkman, new or old, has problems. Maybe those tall buildings are the
reason, who knows. You do say you can get it driving around, though.
they'd go to it again, though I'd think they'd consider putting WEEI on before they'd do that.
It all depends on demographics, mass appeal. More people tend to listen to what they do as Mike
than what they did as Star. If you get an HD radio you can hear Funkytown which I guess is
similar to Star and maybe they still stream Star online (more likely they are streaming Funkytown
instead). Once again I have to bring up that moment on the very first episode of WKRP in Cincinnatti when the station's owner tells the new program director, "Young man, this radio station is business. It is not here for your personal listening pleasure". And the people at Entercom, whether it's Jason and Julie on Guest St. or the higher-ups in Bala Cynwyd, PA (just down the street from where
my furry convention used to be held in Philly!), they have an eye on business.
Similarly if WRKO continues its ratings slide, you would poss. get a new format there.
Pirate at 93.5--def. too close to a legit station, and if anyone from Entercom is reading this
I'm sure they're asking the FCC to shut them down.
I don't really go into Boston but if that 93.7 signal can't be heard on Walkman, etc., then
I can't understand it. I drove by that huge tower in Peabody yesterday. It must be about
15 mi. or so, maybe less, from downtown Bos. at least. If a Walkman can't pick up 93.7
in downtown then either the Walkman is defective or crappy, or the station is weaker
than I thought. Of course at the post office where I work, maybe 5 mi. from that stick,
93.7 comes in well even despite those new lights are causing problems for both AM and FM.
(It's a struggle to pick up 96.9 in there, but wasn't before.) But of course, it's because it's
5 miles away. All Classical 99.5, with a stick in Andover, also comes in well of course.
But you say any Walkman, new or old, has problems. Maybe those tall buildings are the
reason, who knows. You do say you can get it driving around, though.
Did a search for "Haitian Pirate Boston 93.5" on yahoo and found the page listing low power/
unlicensed stations in the area:
>> 93.5 R.Mercure Int'l, Boston - Musique compas, jazz, and gospel. Off the air, 2006. < www.radiomercureinter.com > (that link dead)
Supposedly the page was last updated in late 08. Same one?
http://www.bamlog.com/bostonlp.htm
Another page which lists local stations broadcasting Haitian Music says that Radio Mercure Intl.
is at 90.5 so poss. one of these two pages has a typo...?
unlicensed stations in the area:
>> 93.5 R.Mercure Int'l, Boston - Musique compas, jazz, and gospel. Off the air, 2006. < www.radiomercureinter.com > (that link dead)
Supposedly the page was last updated in late 08. Same one?
http://www.bamlog.com/bostonlp.htm
Another page which lists local stations broadcasting Haitian Music says that Radio Mercure Intl.
is at 90.5 so poss. one of these two pages has a typo...?
@Raccoonradio, funny thing is, last night, I had a dream that WEEI was on FM, I had a dream that it was on 93.7, it seemed so for real.
When I was in Peabody Mall area, I was listenning on the bus, the only really FM station to come in good around there was 93.7, especially around Santanio Drive area. As I came closer to Peabody Mall, I got some stations in ok, including 99.1 and 97.7, although 97.7 was staticy, not listenable at all
I just wish it'd happen, even if it was jockless, I wish for them to bring back Star 93.7. I did in the past had a HD radio and recently a HD Walkman, both didn't work, the HD2 stations kept fading in and out and had this LOUD (Audience Clapping) sound that was very annoying and scary to listen to
even if 92.9 can do it, or Mix 104.1 can do it, one of these stations has to focus more on New Urban AC music. Not one real radio station here in Boston plays new Ruben Studdard Music, no new Janet Jackson music, no new Angie Stone Music, no new Michael Bolton music. Somebody has to do something. Radio Management has to focus on the listenner for once
Two weeks ago I was on the bus, a guy sad next to me, an older African American man about ??? 47 years old. He look like he can be either maybe Hation or Spanish, or African American, either or he was a minoraty. Guess what station he had on his walkman? He had on Mix 104.1. These are regular people. some who don't have time to fill out questioneers. Radio Management has to do something better with their radio stations, this is 2010. Something has to be done
When I was in Peabody Mall area, I was listenning on the bus, the only really FM station to come in good around there was 93.7, especially around Santanio Drive area. As I came closer to Peabody Mall, I got some stations in ok, including 99.1 and 97.7, although 97.7 was staticy, not listenable at all
I just wish it'd happen, even if it was jockless, I wish for them to bring back Star 93.7. I did in the past had a HD radio and recently a HD Walkman, both didn't work, the HD2 stations kept fading in and out and had this LOUD (Audience Clapping) sound that was very annoying and scary to listen to
even if 92.9 can do it, or Mix 104.1 can do it, one of these stations has to focus more on New Urban AC music. Not one real radio station here in Boston plays new Ruben Studdard Music, no new Janet Jackson music, no new Angie Stone Music, no new Michael Bolton music. Somebody has to do something. Radio Management has to focus on the listenner for once
Two weeks ago I was on the bus, a guy sad next to me, an older African American man about ??? 47 years old. He look like he can be either maybe Hation or Spanish, or African American, either or he was a minoraty. Guess what station he had on his walkman? He had on Mix 104.1. These are regular people. some who don't have time to fill out questioneers. Radio Management has to do something better with their radio stations, this is 2010. Something has to be done
LAUROJRM said:
You have to realize that practically all Walkman-type radios have VERY CRAPPY tuners. It doesn't matter if it's new or old.
One exception is the Insignia HD FM Walkman-type portable, for sale only at Best Buy. In addition to getting HD broadcasts, it gets better analog reception than other portables. It gets all those stations in Boston. Maybe not perfectly and with some interference in spots, but it gets them. I don't think you have tried a true HD portable. It's only $50 at Best Buy, sometimes on sale for $40. You really might want to check one out.
With table-top radios, unlike Walkman-type radios, there are many brands with GOOD tuners that would get those stations in Boston, and many crappy brands that wouldn't.
LAUROJRM said:
In addition to breaking the law by operating without licenses, pirates are breaking the law by operating too close to licensed legitimate stations which can cause interference to them. The FCC would not legally permit the legitimate stations you mention to operate in the city because they would cause potential interference to other legitimate stations. That's (one reason) why the pirates operate illegally with no licenses.
As I explained to you before, the FCC will not allow those stations to increase their power or move their transmitters closer to Boston due to interference issues with other stations. If there was any way that any of those stations could LEGALLY increase their signals in Boston, they would have already done it. They can't just "get better signals" in Boston.
Just because ILLEGAL pirates are operating transmitters in Boston, in areas where the FCC would not legally allow it because of interference to other stations, does not mean that LEGAL licensed stations can get approval from the FCC to also do it. Pirates completely ignore FCC regulations about where they can broadcast from. Legitimate stations can't do that.
A station like 93.7 can't just "add a tower in Boston" because, not only would the FCC not permit them to transmit from Boston for the reasons I explained earlier, but also because there would be a large area around Boston where the two transmitters would interfere with one another!
a SANSA clip i got on closeout at RadioShack can hear all dorchester/mattapan/hydepark pirates in chinatown with full clarity qnd quieting,LAUROJRM said:
as well as all of them walking around Ponkapoag pond with the blue hill as a massive terrain shield
walkmans are pretty awful at sensitiivty, i'd suggest a cheap mp3 player
I do have that HD portable of course and, agreed.
If you can get a good signal WEEI is on WMKK's HD3. Also the WEEI from the Cape at 96.3
indeed can come in at times, and maybe their FM 103.7 from Westerly RI too. But if you're
in places like Salem or Beverly the new religious translator at 103.7 might make that impossible.
If you can get a good signal WEEI is on WMKK's HD3. Also the WEEI from the Cape at 96.3
indeed can come in at times, and maybe their FM 103.7 from Westerly RI too. But if you're
in places like Salem or Beverly the new religious translator at 103.7 might make that impossible.
@Eli, I did get that Insignia HD Portable Radio just recently, in those areas I mentioned inside Boston, I could not get those stations I mentioned as well as 102.5 doesn't come in in those parts of Boston and add Mattapan to that list for all those stations I can not get in those areas on a walkman.
I got some of the pirate radio stations but only got it from Ashmont to JFK, then I started losing it. When I was around East Boston to Beachmont I picked up HOT 87.7 and Big City 101.3. It came in perfect in those areas. After Beachmont Revere it started fading in and out.
As I said, the HD2 stations came in and out in all areas inside and outside the city, and has that awful "Audience Clapping" sound which sounds very annoying and scary.
I took it back after three days and got my money back
Yes @Raccoonradio. I heard WEEI on 93.7 HD3, when it came it well I was happy to hear it. Let me add a fake dream to this @Raccoonradio [(93.7 The Ticket-WHDH)-Dennis and Callahan weekday mornings, and "Sporting News Radio" 24/7] <<<fake dream which would come true
I got some of the pirate radio stations but only got it from Ashmont to JFK, then I started losing it. When I was around East Boston to Beachmont I picked up HOT 87.7 and Big City 101.3. It came in perfect in those areas. After Beachmont Revere it started fading in and out.
As I said, the HD2 stations came in and out in all areas inside and outside the city, and has that awful "Audience Clapping" sound which sounds very annoying and scary.
I took it back after three days and got my money back
Yes @Raccoonradio. I heard WEEI on 93.7 HD3, when it came it well I was happy to hear it. Let me add a fake dream to this @Raccoonradio [(93.7 The Ticket-WHDH)-Dennis and Callahan weekday mornings, and "Sporting News Radio" 24/7] <<<fake dream which would come true
raccoonradio said:
No, the problem is the stations on the Pru causing image overload.
WWZN does carry a few Sporting News Radio shows, for now (again there is a slight poss. they could go ESPN with Robert Kraft or maybe Disney buying them?) Last Sun afternoon when the Sox game was on they were doing it in Spanish and I tuned in again after end of postgame and there
was a Sporting News Flash running.
On many radios you can get powerful signals showing up at diff. parts of the dial (i.e., when you're
close to the antennae). That's the case with WMKK here. It's also the case of what happened
at work when I used my mini-boom-box to try and rebroadcast an _FM_ station --put in the
mini FM transmitter but all that wound up happening was I was picking up either WMKK or
WCRB, the two closest stations to me, on the attempted re-broadcast
was a Sporting News Flash running.
On many radios you can get powerful signals showing up at diff. parts of the dial (i.e., when you're
close to the antennae). That's the case with WMKK here. It's also the case of what happened
at work when I used my mini-boom-box to try and rebroadcast an _FM_ station --put in the
mini FM transmitter but all that wound up happening was I was picking up either WMKK or
WCRB, the two closest stations to me, on the attempted re-broadcast
Raccoon,
What you're describing is poor image rejection where the "front ends"-the first sections of a radio from the antenna back-are poorly designed. Strong signals will overload the radio and then show up at various points on the dial-usually 10.6-10.8 MHz from the main signal for an FM station, and a multiple of 455 kHz from the main signal for an AM.
What you're describing is poor image rejection where the "front ends"-the first sections of a radio from the antenna back-are poorly designed. Strong signals will overload the radio and then show up at various points on the dial-usually 10.6-10.8 MHz from the main signal for an FM station, and a multiple of 455 kHz from the main signal for an AM.
Ah okay, thanks. I do note times when I am right near a tower and a signal will show up on some kind of multiple or fraction of a frequency. For example when I'm near WRKO's sticks in Burlington
the 680 signal can also be heard on (2x) 1360 along with WLYN, on my car radio
the 680 signal can also be heard on (2x) 1360 along with WLYN, on my car radio
thank you @Uncle Kaimbridge
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Eli Polonsky said:
The FM tuner on my iPod is actually alot better then I expected it to be. Does anyone know if the antenna in the headphones or somewhere in the iPod?
I'm sure that 93.5 pirate sounds like crap with IBUZ killing the co channel. These co channel pirates aren't even of decent listening quality with much stronger legit stations killing them.
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