So here's a random question. I heard the beginning of Handel on the Law on KFI Saturday morning, and was surprised to hear Handel giving out the day and time and promoting the KFI shows coming up after him. I had thought that HotL was a syndicated program that they pre-recorded during the week, to be broadcast on other stations as well as KFI (thus making it impossible for him to promote KFI's Saturday shows during recording). I know I've heard Handel at least once promote the show at the end of his regular morning show, telling listeners that he was taking calls for the show off the air once he signed off, so I'm sure I'm right about it being a pre-recorded program at one point. Is that no longer the case, and Handel is actually in the studio live on Saturdays now, or was this just a one-time thing?
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Handel on the Law, Live and Local?
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calguy said:
Yes, but they wouldn't do that if the show were syndicated. Is it still being syndicated to other stations?
SimiRadioListener26 said:
Probably he does a mix of prerecorded and live but in any event with all of the modern digital editing tools it is super easy to remove and replace content. Most of the syndication is on delay anyway for instance here in Ottumwa it airs on Saturday Evenings. Or they can do it like we used to do the OSU football games way back when before computers took over. The board feeds from master control were split so that the net got a clean feed, minus local material, and our originating station tucked neatly into the basement of the Fawcett Center For Tomorrow got the local promos and IDs.
nmoore6676 said:
I think it's supposed to work something like that. A couple of years ago, I was listening to the local affiliate run Handel on the Law. Before each break Handel would give an obvious cutaway where the syndicator was supposed to start the break... but they didn't. After a very short pause, Handel would then plug something on KFI or introduce the KFI traffic reporter or something that obviously wasn't meant for the national show. Then the break started.
It continued that way during the whole show. I suspect the show isn't live and either KFI's copy of the show was put on the satellite by mistake or somebody forget to do some editing.
jh said:
I agree. I've heard these "national" shows in other states and the first few seconds of the show the affiliates play their promo (whatever that may be from extra music to extended local news or a pre-recorded Handel promo for the local market). If you listen closely after he finishes his KFI plugs, there seems to be a pause and then he states "This is Handle on the Law" That is his cue that everyone is synced up.
Handel on the Law is not live (sadly).
But I give him a break. He does wake up at 4 AM five mornings a week. Everyone deserves a weekend.
Handel tapes the show throughout the week, right after his morning show. He'll plug "we're taking calls now for Handel on the Law," etc. He then records the show for KFI, complete with forward promotion, as-if live. You'll notice there's a "post" where he'll transition ...
For example: "...which is coming up after the Fork Report, later this afternoon here on KFI. Okay .... Handel ... on the Law. A radio show where you call in ... I tell you that you have no case ... and I make fun of you..."
See the edit point? Right between "Okay" and "Handel ... on the Law." A poor, underpaid board op chops the local KFI stuff off the front and back ends of the show before sending it out to syndication. It's done brilliantly and allows Handel to sell the show nationally, pay the Persian Palace's electric bill, and still provide a freshness/localness that keeps Robin and the KFI folks happy.
But I give him a break. He does wake up at 4 AM five mornings a week. Everyone deserves a weekend.
Handel tapes the show throughout the week, right after his morning show. He'll plug "we're taking calls now for Handel on the Law," etc. He then records the show for KFI, complete with forward promotion, as-if live. You'll notice there's a "post" where he'll transition ...
For example: "...which is coming up after the Fork Report, later this afternoon here on KFI. Okay .... Handel ... on the Law. A radio show where you call in ... I tell you that you have no case ... and I make fun of you..."
See the edit point? Right between "Okay" and "Handel ... on the Law." A poor, underpaid board op chops the local KFI stuff off the front and back ends of the show before sending it out to syndication. It's done brilliantly and allows Handel to sell the show nationally, pay the Persian Palace's electric bill, and still provide a freshness/localness that keeps Robin and the KFI folks happy.
The first few hours are indeed on tape. But I think on the weekends he comes in at 7am and does a live show. Obviously he does the off the air taping during the weekdays since he is out so much plugging that Ray Luccia workshop every other week that I'm sure those tapes are needed for those occasions when he's attending that event.
Also you know he is live after 7am since many times he has banter with the weekend news anchor. That can't be on tape.
Also you know he is live after 7am since many times he has banter with the weekend news anchor. That can't be on tape.
So this should be put to rest once and for all. Handle is live on Saturdays from 7am to 11am, unless when he his schlocking the Ray Luccia thing.
Today at 7am he made reference to the tragic shooting yesterday and the plane crash involving Mike Nolan which happened later on Friday, so he could not have recorded that. That man is a workaholic.
Today at 7am he made reference to the tragic shooting yesterday and the plane crash involving Mike Nolan which happened later on Friday, so he could not have recorded that. That man is a workaholic.
Just wish he wasn't broadcasting in Phoenix at 5am - 8am Sunday Mornings! 
The afternoon and even previous evening times were better (in my opinion).
The afternoon and even previous evening times were better (in my opinion).
Given that Handel gives the number out near the end of his daily show, I see why all the calls seem to be from California. I don't think I've heard the show take calls from anywhere outside the state.
the golden boy said:
No I've heard him take callers from NY and from Georgia.
I listen to Handel on-the-law on KXNT(Las Vegas FM100.5/AM 840) Saturday night from 7-10 PM. I found the show entertaining and tried to find it on the TUNE-IN App. They have Bill Handel listed, but they only provide the daily weekday show periods... I always wondered whether they are actual over the air calls or ones handled internally and recorded only for syndication, not aired over KFI.
If you listen to the Premiere syndicated version, the bumper music is very different too. It's all 1960s garage band music like Magic Mushroom, Gentlemen, and Easybeats. It's actually been the same set of bumper music for 10 years now. Also the show is a few minutes longer per hour than the local show, which is not surprising.
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