Uh...I think we need to define what leads to a trainwreck.It isn't simply which song runs up next to which song.I can play Faith Hill's "Mississippi Girl" followed by her husband's "Live like you were dying" and create a trainwreck. They are both contemporary songs. Neither uses much steel guitar or "traditional" country sound. But "Mississippi Girl" is a fluffy, yahoo song. "Live like you were dying" would sound better up against George Jones singing "He stopped loving her today" because they follow a common theme.My favorite country station has been doing trainwrecks, in countryradio's opinion, for a decade.
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I've been reading this board for a long time and finally had to write.Anyone who says that there is no place for old or Classic Country Music in the Terre Haute market is sadly mistaken. For about the last 10 years, I have hosted a 6 hour Sunday night Classic Country radio show on 98.5 WACF. This show is probably a consultant's nightmare, but for true Country Music fans who like to go deeper than just songs that made the top 10..or deeper than Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson, this show is for you. In fact, it has done very well in the Sunday night ratings, even against HI 99. Why do you think they added the syndicated Retro Country show? I will admit that the high numbers are thanks to an older audience than many radio programmers like to attract. However, I'm always amazed at the number of younger people who enjoy the program as well.I can only hope that Midwest allows this program to continue. I don't do it for the money or the notoriety..just to preserve true Country Music. And unlike Hank FM in Indy, I actually play Hank!!Rick Rhodes
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You mean play Hank as in Hank Williams, Sr. and Hank Snow--right!?!Good for you! Keep up the great work!Does your signal get to Cunot?rick12 said:
Your definition of a train wreck is not correct at all. Two contemporary songs back to back is not a bad thing...also Live Like You Were Dying followed by He Stopped Loving Her Today, are you trying to get people to turn off the radio because of depression or what. Faith Hill and Tim McGraw back to back is fine. It happens all the time on country radio and sounds great.I'm not saying that there isn't room for classic country on the radio because there is an audience out there. I just don't think that you need to play 5 or 6 classic songs an hour. It is proven in ratings almost everywhere that tossing in a classic song every once in a while, once maybe twice an hour, can be a good thing, but you are alienating most of your audience when you play more than that. That is why Hank will never get past FMS in Indianapolis. Once a week classic shows typically get great ratings but not stations that play it all the time.Let's face it...FMS is just better and always will be even with the Cumulus buyout. Record Label love or not they are just better.PTBoardOp94 said:
I've had the best luck avoiding train wrecks using key and tempo matching. You can have a seriously depressing song follow an upbeat number this way.Anyone remember when stations used jingles that started slow and ended fast, or vice versa, to help bridge these gaps? Ah, jingles. Whatever happened to ye?jim
AJ, WACF is a 50 KW station out of Paris, Il. The answer is a resounding yes 
'Bout the same signal as Hi-99 has.How's the gas price at Casey's, anyway? And to Rick12: I've never been listening to WACF when there was a local airshift going. I'll be sure to tune in to your show this weekend. I'm a big fan of classic country shows -- I listen to WSM's "Way back Wednesday" every week
'Bout the same signal as Hi-99 has.How's the gas price at Casey's, anyway? And to Rick12: I've never been listening to WACF when there was a local airshift going. I'll be sure to tune in to your show this weekend. I'm a big fan of classic country shows -- I listen to WSM's "Way back Wednesday" every week Rick, you did have at least one extra listener last night.In the event that WSM needs a replacement for Eddie Stubbs, I nominate you. Plus the signal is (marginally) more clear than WSM's ;D
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When I was programming WACF we were trying something different which was taking a different approach to how the country format works. Why play top 40 when every other country station is in the listening area and your the worse?What I tried to do was keep the country just that, country. If the new sounds had a country feel they would mix fine with Haggard and Jones. You have to remember train wreck is a consultants term. Most listeners who grew up in Indiana who dig the Allman Brothers also dig Waylon and Willie. So why not play both? Why not play Jimmy Rogers to Jerry Reed to Tim McGraw. If you do it right it works.Here is two hours of Mojo Nixion's show on outlaw country on Sirius 63 and look at the damn variety and mix. Any consultant would tell you its train wreck while most music fans would dig it like I do.00:00 Mojo Nixon’s Demolition Derby (hour 1)-Mojo saying he’s on goofballs and the highway patrol is after him.Song 1: “Get Out Of Denver” by Bob SegerSong 2: “Ghost Riders In the Sky” by J.R. Cash-**SEG* Rhett Miller saying Mojo is a boggier eating moron.Song 3: “Dang Me” by Rhett MillerSong 4: “Doo-Wacka-Do” by Roger Miller-Mojo plugging Fred Imus showSong 5: “I Married a Women Who Talks Like Jerry Reed” by Tim Wilson & Jerry ReedSong 6: “Motivatin’ Man” by Red SimpsonSeg: Movie DropSong 7: “A Night In A Box” by Phil LeeSong 8: “Big Boopers Wedding” by The Big Booper-Mojo talk up tells us young folk not get married. Song 9: “It Comes To Naturally” by Charlie RobinsonSong 10: “Southern Comfort” by Shooter JenningsSong 11: “Flirtin’ With Disaster” by Molly HatchetSeg: Movie DropSong 12: “Sixteen Tons” by Tennessee Ernie Ford-Mojo talks about Ford’s voice being a ***** in deepness compared to Country Dick Montana’sSong 13: California Kid by Country Dick Montana and The Beat FarmersSong 14: “Ah, Poor Little Baby” by Billy “Crash” Craddock Seg: Movie DropSong 15: “Pissin’ In The Wind” by Jerry Jeff WalkerSong 16: “The Cold Hard Facts Of Life” by Porter Wagoner -Mojo says Porter had three things going for him. 1. Nice Hair 2. Nice Suits 3. Dolly’s titty’s. Front Sell Dallas WayneSong 17: “Crank The Hank” by Dallas Wayne00:00 Mojo Nixon’s Demolition Derby (hour 2)Song 1: “Play That Fast Thing” by RockpileSeg: Show title Song 2: “Big City” by Merle HaggardSong 3: “Highway Patrol” by Junior Brown-Promos Rig RockerSong 4: “Tie My Pecker To My Leg” by Mojo NixonSong 5: “Lovesick Blues” by Patsy Cline (now thats a funny those two back to back)Seg: Movie DropSong 6: “It Only Hurts When I Cry” by Dwight YoakamSong 7: “I Fought The Law” by Bobby Fuller Four-Mojo loves that song...gives the number to the request line....george jones sings so good he’ll make your dick hard....he sings so good he can make James Taylor sound good.Song 8: “Bartender’s Blues” by George JonesSong 9: “Ain’t Got No Match” by Waylon PayneSeg: Movie DropSong 10: “Nowhere Road” by Steve Earle Song 11: “To Be Alone With You” by Bob Dylan-Mojo does his break played back in reverse. Song 12: “How Can A Poor Man Stand Such Time” by The Del LordsSong 13: “To Much Monkey Bussiness” by Sleepy LabeefSeg: Movie DropSong 14: “Give Me Back The Key To My Heart” by Uncle TupeloSong 15: “I Push Right Over” by Rosie Flores -Mojo plugs bottle rockets albumSong 16: “Indianapolis” by The Bottle RocketsSong 17: “The Mercy Seat” by Johnny CashSeg: Movie DropSong 18: “Are you Listenin’ Lucky?” by Joe ElyOh and hi Rick glad to see you going strong.
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Poontango...sorry, but that playlist from Mojo's show is the definition of Trainwreck. What a bunch of garbage...with the exception of a Seeger tune or a Cash. If this is the best Sirius can come up with, no wonder XM and Sirius lost One Billion dollars combined last year. Opie and Anthony must see the writing on the wall, hence the deal with CBS to be back on terrestrial radio.
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BEEGE! It's Al!fess40 said:
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With all due respect you are plain wrong. It's the best radio out there, because it's different and it sounds great. Music is music and that's what people want. When you start forcing them into a select few they bore and you pigeon yourself into such a small demographic. Great for advertisers but horrible for artistic vision and real radiBuffStuff said:
utlaw country clearly targets truckers, males, and the bar crowd. But they never let that define them or have their audience box them in to what they are. Instead they let their music define their audience which opens the fences. "Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above, Don't fence me in. Let me ride through the wide open country that I love, Don't fence me in. "If you are going by the books and what they teach you in the five and dime radio college then you are right its a train wreck. But the listeners can careless and most of them have grown sick of the crap they are force fed. My guess is if you gave a male country fan a month of Sirius Outlaw Country and a month of HI99 or any other FM station then made them pick. Sirius would win out 80% of the time. Just my opinion hoss."Everybody is down here I said who's up in Heaven with God and the Son Oh some saints and mystics and students of metaphysics 101 People who care and share and love and try to do what's right Beautiful old souls who read a little stories to their babies every night What you won't find up in Heaven are christian coalition right wing conservatives Country program directors and Nashville record executives. Now I said I've made some mistakes, but I'm not as bad as those guys How can God to this to me or can't she sympathize He said you're wrong about God being cruel and mean Oh God is the most loving thing that's never been seen I said hotshot tell me this which religion is the truest He said there all about the same, Budda was not a Christian, but Jesus woulda made a good buddist."--Ray Wylie Hubbard 'CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVIL'- Status