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Hannity and Limbaugh gone from WBAP?

Looks like the days of brokered radio on 1190 are numbered. Here come Rush and Sean back to their CC home.

Levin is already on BAP. I suppose Cumulus properties Savage and Huckabee are headed there too.
 
In New York, Hannity and Limbaugh will be moving from 50KW WABC 770 to Clear Channel's 50KW WOR 710. But in DFW, Clear Channel owns popular FMs 92.5, 97.1, 102.1, 102.9, 106.1 and its only AM station is 1190. Looks like 1190 is the only available spot unless one of the FM formats get switched to talk.
 
Triple Fake Jerry said:
Looks like the days of brokered radio on 1190 are numbered. Here come Rush and Sean back to their CC home.

Levin is already on BAP. I suppose Cumulus properties Savage and Huckabee are headed there too.
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Even though I had my favorite formats on 1190 post KLIF, like KLUV-AM, Lonestar/Cowboy 1190 and such, the talk scenario would probably do more for 1190 than any other format in the last 10 or 15 years.

But then again, they might put them on 570 or even (long-shot) on BAP-FM only with a WBAP-AM morning and afternoon simulcast book-ending the BAP-FM only mid-day talk shows....
 
The following is only one veteran Radio Pro's opinion....

Fellow On-Air Radio Broadcasters:

For the record, I harbor no ill-will toward Cumulus Communications. I do believe, however, that experienced On-Air Broadcasters owe the next generations to pass along important pieces of institutional memory.

With the decisions made regarding Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, the anti-On-Air Talent ideology continues from the Dickey Brothers. In other words, it seems that no one working successfully in the On-Air disciplines is good enough to work for Cumulus.

Obviously, this decision does much to bolster the prevailing notion that Cumulus Management is committed to the idea that the key to their success lies in reducing the mean On-Air talent level to that of their own professional capabilities.

Further, with this now obvious ideology proved through years of consistent management practice, I believe Cumulus now represents an existential threat to the future of our Industry.

As I warned here years ago....If you are an On-Air Employee at Cumulus, at any level, you should follow the example set by your leadership, and find a replacement for your employment at your earliest possible (prudent) opportunity.

If, on the other hand, you are one of the (soon to be) hapless air talents Cumulus tries to hire to fill the gaps left by these foolish decisions, remember the Radio Razor:

"Only failing Radio Stations ever need to hire On-Air Talent."

Also remember; in my professional experience...Cumulus Management is very good at promising the sun, moon and stars in return for successful, even historic, On-Air performance, and then consistently failing to make good on those promises.

In short, again in my professional experience, they simply welch on their bets.

The money players floating Cumulus will soon be heading for the exits....My personal advice is for you to follow that money....

No matter how difficult your current professional situation may be, invest in the future of Radio Broadcasting in America, by waiting for the new owners to arrive before signing an On-Air deal with any current Cumulus Station.

J-D

Jon-David Wells
The Wells Report
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX
 
It would make sense to put those shows on in middays at 1190 only because the station has a big 50KW signal across North Texas much like 820. We all know about 1190's night signal but this would not affect airing these prime daytime talk shows.

CC owns 1190 and from what I've heard, they are barely paying the electric bill to keep it on the air with what they have on the air right now.

Putting Rush and Hannity on 1190 would bring some numbers to a frequency that hasn't seen much in the way of ratings in many many years.
 
If the report is accurate and an agreement does not emerge, it is almost a certainty that Clear Channel will flip 97.1 to newstalk. It is by far the most vulnerable FM in their DFW portfolio. 1190 is just not a competitive signal, it simply does not cover the market adequately and Clear Channel will not be placing their top, expensive talk talent in the doghouse in market 5, especially when they have a perfectly good FM that is going nowhere with the current format. KSKY has their own network programming to clear and would not pay the premium for Rush and Sean while KRLD is mostly news during the day.

Also worth pointing out that Glenn Beck (which is now based in Dallas) and Coast to Coast are cleared on 1190 currently and can be moved to 97.1 immediately. Beck and C2C by themselves are not enough to build a station around, especially when you would be competing with heritage and Rush and Sean, but if you had all of that talent available, that is a strong lineup in this market and WBAP will be in a much weaker position with a lineup of new, unfamiliar voices.

I could see them keeping the KEGL calls and possibly even incorporating the eagle name somehow into a conservative-leaning talk station.
 
I had a brain malfunction :p with my pontification about KLIF/WBAP/BAP-FM. It happens...Sometimes I mix and match the "C" corporations. :-[

Blowing up a music FM for 6 to 8 hours of top tier talk doesn't seem like an overall good idea. While News/Talk is an option, News is one of the most labor intensive formats around. The turn-around time to make a decent ROI is pretty long. Even with a top tier 8 hour mid-day talk block you still have 16 to 18 hours of programming to cover and then there's the weekends. I suppose you could broker them out.

Going on the basis of "If you build it they will come" 1190 is an ideal location as the 50k signal in the daytime fits the bill nicely. Plus, there is the possibility the follow on shows would have decent enough ratings from the strong lead-in from H and R...

1190 takes the gamble out, or at least there is less risk as 1190, while paying the overhead these days, is still very under utilized...
 
1190 nighttime signal is fixable. Daytime signal is more than fine. Eagle makes money, why throw that away, when you can have best of both worlds.
 
metroneck said:
1190 nighttime signal is fixable. Daytime signal is more than fine. Eagle makes money, why throw that away, when you can have best of both worlds.
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There's not much way to improve the night-time on 1190. There was a point in the past that gains could have been made but that time is long past...

At best you could move the night-time back to the daytime site at Hunter-Ferrell at a greatly reduced power level. While 1,000 watts at Hunter-Ferrell would somewhat improve the signal in Irving (sort of), the areas north of LBJ will still be missing. Even with the move, the protection nulls still exist even at 1,000 watts and you lose Ft.Worth. Granted WOWO dropped from 50 to 10, but if I recall the KC AM and several others took advantage of what there was when that happened. Then there's the "Ratchet Clause" you have to consider. It's boxed in...
 
jondavidvox said:
The following is only one veteran Radio Pro's opinion....

Fellow On-Air Radio Broadcasters:

For the record, I harbor no ill-will toward Cumulus Communications. I do believe, however, that experienced On-Air Broadcasters owe the next generations to pass along important pieces of institutional memory.

With the decisions made regarding Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, the anti-On-Air Talent ideology continues from the Dickey Brothers. In other words, it seems that no one working successfully in the On-Air disciplines is good enough to work for Cumulus.

Obviously, this decision does much to bolster the prevailing notion that Cumulus Management is committed to the idea that the key to their success lies in reducing the mean On-Air talent level to that of their own professional capabilities.

Further, with this now obvious ideology proved through years of consistent management practice, I believe Cumulus now represents an existential threat to the future of our Industry.

As I warned here years ago....If you are an On-Air Employee at Cumulus, at any level, you should follow the example set by your leadership, and find a replacement for your employment at your earliest possible (prudent) opportunity.

If, on the other hand, you are one of the (soon to be) hapless air talents Cumulus tries to hire to fill the gaps left by these foolish decisions, remember the Radio Razor:

"Only failing Radio Stations ever need to hire On-Air Talent."

Also remember; in my professional experience...Cumulus Management is very good at promising the sun, moon and stars in return for successful, even historic, On-Air performance, and then consistently failing to make good on those promises.

In short, again in my professional experience, they simply welch on their bets.

The money players floating Cumulus will soon be heading for the exits....My personal advice is for you to follow that money....

No matter how difficult your current professional situation may be, invest in the future of Radio Broadcasting in America, by waiting for the new owners to arrive before signing an On-Air deal with any current Cumulus Station.
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Well-said, J-D! They aren't called Cume-less for nothin'! ;-)
 
Jay Walker said:
metroneck said:
1190 nighttime signal is fixable.  Daytime signal is more than fine. Eagle makes money, why throw that away, when you can have best of both worlds.
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There's not much way to improve the night-time on 1190. There was a point in the past that gains could have been made but that time is long past...

At best you could move the night-time back to the daytime site at Hunter-Ferrell at a greatly reduced power level. While 1,000 watts at Hunter-Ferrell would somewhat improve the signal in Irving (sort of), the areas north of LBJ will still be missing. Even with the move, the protection nulls still exist even at 1,000 watts and you lose Ft.Worth. Granted WOWO dropped from 50 to 10, but if I recall the KC AM and several others took advantage of what there was when that happened. Then there's the "Ratchet Clause" you have to consider. It's boxed in...
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I thought a 1kW Irving cover most cars in metroplex during the dark.  A unobstructed 1kW omni will run miles at night, or would wowo's 10kW's interfere?
 
I will go on record and predict that Rush and Sean will not end up on 1190. Either they will stay on WBAP or Clear Channel will flip 97.1 to talk.
 
the 50,000 watt AM on 1190 is more than adequate during daytime operations. It also penetrates buildings during the daytime better than many current AM's in the market.
The night pattern does suck, but how many talk stations have much of an audience at night anyway.
The money is 6a-7p, and if you're talking Rush and Hannity, 1190 would be at full 50,000 watts during middays every day of the year.

Those 2 shows alone could bring enough ratings/revenue that the peripherals around them wouldn't have to set the world on fire.
 
metroneck said:
Jay Walker said:
metroneck said:
1190 nighttime signal is fixable. Daytime signal is more than fine. Eagle makes money, why throw that away, when you can have best of both worlds.
Click to expand...
There's not much way to improve the night-time on 1190. There was a point in the past that gains could have been made but that time is long past...

At best you could move the night-time back to the daytime site at Hunter-Ferrell at a greatly reduced power level. While 1,000 watts at Hunter-Ferrell would somewhat improve the signal in Irving (sort of), the areas north of LBJ will still be missing. Even with the move, the protection nulls still exist even at 1,000 watts and you lose Ft.Worth. Granted WOWO dropped from 50 to 10, but if I recall the KC AM and several others took advantage of what there was when that happened. Then there's the "Ratchet Clause" you have to consider. It's boxed in...
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I thought a 1kW Irving cover most cars in metroplex during the dark. A unobstructed 1kW omni will run miles at night, or would wowo's 10kW's interfere?
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You can't get 1KW Omni at night on 1190. So your directional pattern will have the same primary protection nulls. Also it's not an issue of WOWO interfering, it's the problem of a 1KW signal making it over the top of all the man-made hash. Look at the night-time coverage issue KTCK has with a solid 5KW at night on a fresh antenna system and you can get an idea of how poor 1KW @ 1190 would cover...

Basically take the Rockwall night-time pattern and cut of the power lobe that shoots down I-30. What's left will give you an idea of the geometry of what the 1KW pattern would resemble from Irving..
 
Jay Walker said:
Even though I had my favorite formats on 1190 post KLIF, like KLUV-AM, Lonestar/Cowboy 1190 and such, the talk scenario would probably do more for 1190 than any other format in the last 10 or 15 years.
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Jinxed frequency. Remember how well El Rushbo did on Clear Channels' 12~Hundred in Boston? Good thing for him and Entercom that WRKO took him back.
 
Dr. Akbar said:
Jay Walker said:
Even though I had my favorite formats on 1190 post KLIF, like KLUV-AM, Lonestar/Cowboy 1190 and such, the talk scenario would probably do more for 1190 than any other format in the last 10 or 15 years.
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Jinxed frequency. Remember how well El Rushbo did on Clear Channels' 12~Hundred in Boston? Good thing for him and Entercom that WRKO took him back.
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Hey, most honorable Doc!
Glad to see you drove the Gremlin over from the cactus forum!
1190 is not really jinxed, it's just had the usual share of half*ss committed formats roll through over the years. Big daytime and a semi-worthless nighttime signal but more than adequate for 6 or 8 hours of midday political blather. The dreaded duo could really make that old place stand up tall again. Or at least raise up off the floor slightly...

Jay Walker
 
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