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Hannity demoted (even further) in Boston

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ajhenderson

The #2 talk host, presently heard nights 10p-1am (7 hours old) on FM talker WTKK, will be moved further into oblivion come January when Jay Severin's new national show returns to the station for early evenings. Laura Ingraham beats out Sean for late nights 10-midnight, while the Cocked-Headed One will move to overnights midnight-2, taking an hour from John and Jeff of the hot talk genre?

Apparently Hannity, who dominates many markets with numerous #1 12+ standings, isn't the top of the heap in Beantown, where the similarly mundane yet less-known Ingraham bests him. Makes one wonder whether former affil WRKO will pick Hannity up again for 10p-1am, where they recently moved Savage.

Is there anyone, in any city in America outside of NYC, that's up at that hour and actually gives a crap about the pedantic issues Hannity discusses? I have said that WTKK should be commended for trying to attract a younger demo by clearing J&J overnights, an unusually good counter to Noory on 'RKO. Hannity appeals to the suburban family man who's up by 5:30am to pay for his kids' parochial schools and the Suburbans in the garage. Am I wrong, or is this just stupid? And it's good to see, at least in one isolated instance, Mr. Hannity going the way of former #2 titleholder Dr. Laura.
 
WTKK got into a bind what with the
negotations with Severin (who I'm not quite into). they wound up
hiring Michael Graham for Severin's old slot. Guess what: Jay
(coming "home" to Boston--yeah right; he's from Poughkeepsie,
and did show from Sag Harbor) is back, thus displacing Laura
_and_ Sean. ideally Sean should have moved to WRKO where they
could run him at 7 pm instead of the boring (to me) Taste of
Boston tonight, but instead, it's nine-hour-delayed Hannity for WTKK.
Better than being off totally


> where the similarly mundane yet less-known Ingraham bests
> him. Makes one wonder whether former affil WRKO will pick
> Hannity up again for 10p-1am, where they recently moved
> Savage.

Come on. Laura's show is fresh and funny and she has views of
all sides (guests/callers) on. Duck of the Day, Sound Bite
contest, Lie of the Day, Media Bias Watch, Culture Watch, etc.

The speculation was that WRKO may wind up with Hannity yet for that
7-10 slot...who knows. Maybe WTKK has him for a certain amount of
time but when that contract expires....

Of course if he did go to WRKO he'd be subject to Celtics pre-emptions.


> Is there anyone, in any city in America outside of NYC,
> that's up at that hour and actually gives a crap about the
> pedantic issues Hannity discusses?

Yes, I do. I work nights. I listen.

I have said that WTKK
> should be commended for trying to attract a younger demo by
> clearing J&J overnights,

Well at least I heard J&J on the night of Tookie's execution. Not bad,
party people.

Hannity by rights should be on 3-6 pm but WRKO has their own guy Howie
Carr on, and WTKK now has Graham (not quite into him, either). At least
WTKK has something local on from 3-7 pm..rare for them (mostly syndie).
Though the syndie, like Hannity and Ingraham, can be good.
 
> your opinion; I don't agree. WTKK got into a bind what with
> the
> negotations with Severin (who I'm not quite into). they
> wound up
> hiring Michael Graham for Severin's old slot. Guess what:
> Jay
> (coming "home" to Boston--yeah right; he's from
> Poughkeepsie,
> and did show from Sag Harbor) is back, thus displacing Laura

You're right; and they decided that Jay Severin was better than Hannity. They could have passed and kept things the way they were. Severin was more important than Hannity on at even a marginal hour. So they decided that if Jay had to bump Hannity to the middle of the night, so be it.

> _and_ Sean. ideally Sean should have moved to WRKO where
> they
> could run him at 7 pm instead of the boring (to me) Taste of

I'm not into the "two shows on 4-hour delay" deal, but I guess most listeners don't know or care. Why not run Savage mostly live 7-10 with preemptions and Hannity 10-1. If you're going to be delayed, why not be really delayed?

> Better than being off totally

For ABCRN in terms of having a market #11 clearance, but not for 99% of the listeners.

> Come on. Laura's show is fresh and funny and she has views
> of
> all sides (guests/callers) on. Duck of the Day, Sound Bite
> contest, Lie of the Day, Media Bias Watch, Culture Watch,
> etc.

IMHO, Glenn Beck is a much better talent. Perhaps it's because I'm biased in that I much prefer RADIO people over the slew of media whores infesting the business with their slick resumes as DC mouthpieces and the like. If I want to hear someone with no prior broadcast experience mouth off, I'll go on a date.

But hey, if it works, why not?
 
Yes, if they knew for sure they'd be able to get the new Severin show they could have left Hannity on 3-6 (who to put on 6-7? maybe could have carried
Mark Levin out of WABC), then Severin, and then tape delayed Ingraham.
Severin had been with them for years and gotten good ratings (beating Carr
from time to time) and you knew they wanted to carry him live (7-10).

Not sure what ratings Sean and Laura get for them. Laura's show is technically
done from 9-noon, though she does original hours for WABC and some other
stations from 8-10 pm (so WTKK might have been picking up one of the morning
show hours then both "night" hours). In her case some of it was live and some
of it very much tape delayed, followed by seven-hour-tape-delayed Hannity.
Now, Hannity will be delayed by 9 hours. The could have done Sean 10-midnight
and Laura midnight to 2, and maybe one reason they did the opposite is that
Laura's ratings could have been higher than Sean's. Of course Sean aired
post 10 pm so maybe there would naturally be a ratings dropoff...

In listenership if TALKERS magazine's survey is accurate, Sean is #2
nationwide (13 million listeners, about a million behind Rush) while
Laura was #5 I believe with about 5 million listeners, or was it 8.
But Sean will air later despite that fact. Who knows, maybe Laura being on
earlier is a New England connection...Glastonbury CT (Laura) vs.
Central Square (IIRC) NY (Sean) (...hometowns!)

>
> I'm not into the "two shows on 4-hour delay" deal, but I
> guess most listeners don't know or care. Why not run Savage
> mostly live 7-10 with preemptions and Hannity 10-1. If
> you're going to be delayed, why not be really delayed?

Yes, true.


> IMHO, Glenn Beck is a much better talent.

Not bad--have heard a few times. Would like to have him on in Boston.
I think WRKO could pick him up but they have DePetro with live and local
talk
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From what little I know of Severin he at least offers some intellectual stimulation. Boston is and always has been a major talk radio town with a tradition of truly intellegent hosts (Brudnoy, Gene Burns, etc.), so it doesn't surprise me that a guy like Severin would play better there than Hannity with his jingoism and pandering to the Archie Bunker mentality.
 
> In listenership if TALKERS magazine's survey is accurate,
> Sean is #2
> nationwide (13 million listeners, about a million behind
> Rush) while
> Laura was #5 I believe with about 5 million listeners, or
> was it 8.
> But Sean will air later despite that fact. Who knows, maybe
> Laura being on
> earlier is a New England connection...Glastonbury CT (Laura)
> vs.
> Central Square (IIRC) NY (Sean) (...hometowns!)
>
Well TALKERS magazine survey numbers ARE NOT right. I have the whole country of Arb numbers and can tell you that the Talker's Numbers are way overstated.
 
> The #2 talk host, presently heard nights 10p-1am (7 hours
> old) on FM talker WTKK, will be moved further into oblivion
> come January when Jay Severin's new national show returns to
> the station for early evenings. Laura Ingraham beats out
> Sean for late nights 10-midnight, while the Cocked-Headed
> One will move to overnights midnight-2, taking an hour from
> John and Jeff of the hot talk genre?
>
> Apparently Hannity, who dominates many markets with numerous
> #1 12+ standings, isn't the top of the heap in Beantown,
> where the similarly mundane yet less-known Ingraham bests
> him. Makes one wonder whether former affil WRKO will pick
> Hannity up again for 10p-1am, where they recently moved
> Savage.
>
> Is there anyone, in any city in America outside of NYC,
> that's up at that hour and actually gives a crap about the
> pedantic issues Hannity discusses? I have said that WTKK
> should be commended for trying to attract a younger demo by
> clearing J&J overnights, an unusually good counter to Noory
> on 'RKO. Hannity appeals to the suburban family man who's up
> by 5:30am to pay for his kids' parochial schools and the
> Suburbans in the garage. Am I wrong, or is this just stupid?
> And it's good to see, at least in one isolated instance, Mr.
> Hannity going the way of former #2 titleholder Dr. Laura.
>

Sheeeesh I can sense your glee 1000 miles away. And yes I have listened to Hannity at 11PM and still enjoyed it.
 
Hannity's problem & 2 other markets

Hannity's problem is that his 3 hour radio show is a 3 hour commercial for his TV show. That's ALL it is. Even O'Reilly's radio show isn't that bad.

In Miami, Clear Channel's WIOD db's Hannity until 7pm. And since they are the "Heat" station, the show rarely airs.

In nearby West Palm Beach, Clear Channel's flagship newser, WJNO, doesn't air Hannity. They run it at 6pm on their brokered talk station that gets ZERO ratings.

ABC has a corporate deal with Clear Channel for the program so they can't move it to anyone else.
 
Re: Hannity's problem & 2 other markets

That is something I've never understood about Hannity's radio show on ABC Radio, the constant "plugging" of his television show on a rivial network, Fox. Frankly I'm surprised that ABC allows Hannity to plug Fox for 3 hours a day five days a week. I'm sure Fox doesn't mind the free spot time on ABC.

> Hannity's problem is that his 3 hour radio show is a 3 hour
> commercial for his TV show. That's ALL it is. Even
> O'Reilly's radio show isn't that bad.
>
> In Miami, Clear Channel's WIOD db's Hannity until 7pm. And
> since they are the "Heat" station, the show rarely airs.
>
> In nearby West Palm Beach, Clear Channel's flagship newser,
> WJNO, doesn't air Hannity. They run it at 6pm on their
> brokered talk station that gets ZERO ratings.
>
> ABC has a corporate deal with Clear Channel for the program
> so they can't move it to anyone else.
>
 
No Problem

ABC syndicates his show. Some ABC owned stations carry it. It does not air with the ABC brand name, cue or tag.

Hannity is the biggest property ABC's syndication division has. He is not in the same position as a station employee. He can get another distributor is he's not happy. He is the draw, not some ABC suits.

Besides, this isn't the 50's where people coyly tip-toe around making references to "another network."


> That is something I've never understood about Hannity's
> radio show on ABC Radio, the constant "plugging" of his
> television show on a rivial network, Fox. Frankly I'm
> surprised that ABC allows Hannity to plug Fox for 3 hours a
> day five days a week. I'm sure Fox doesn't mind the free
> spot time on ABC.
>
 
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