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Hannity Out at WBEN

Bottom line, WLVL had nothing to lose by picking up Hannity's show. Just speculating, if they're giving up six minutes of inventory an hour at this stage of the game, it's no big loss. As has been discussed here and nationally, it's not like radio has inventory control issues these days. WLVL now needs to promote Hannity's presence, on the air and outside. Whether that happens is anybody's guess. When they had him years ago, WLVL ran on-air promos. While that's worthwhile and necessary, those promos reach only the listeners the station already has.

The station's website is boiler plate.

https://wlvl.com/

Ironically both Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are promoted in 3 to 6 p.m. slot. Helluvan afternoon team.

They won’t promote it outside the station. Too costly.

The whole thing is a nothing burger. Know one will know Sean is on LVL and no one will care. They already have a slew of conservative hosts and nobody knows about it.

Their coverage is not in high populated areas, so it really does not matter.

BEN will not suffer either. After 7p is not something they are concerned about. The whole thing is a nothing burger.

If you want to talk about what really matters, start talking about the cuts coming to Entercom when the nationally homogenize every music format they have. They have done 2, with more coming.
 
If you want to talk about what really matters, start talking about the cuts coming to Entercom when the nationally homogenize every music format they have. They have done 2, with more coming.

Nobody cares. Middays and evenings. Kiss and Star have already eliminated local talent in middays and evenings.

As long as the music doesn't change, nobody cares.

WBEN already runs syndicated midday and evening shows. How does it hurt them in the ratings?

At Townsquare, WYRK runs a syndicated evening show. How has it hurt them in the ratings?
 
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Nobody cares. Middays and evenings. Kiss and Star have already eliminated local talent in middays and evenings.

As long as the music doesn't change, nobody cares.

WBEN already runs syndicated midday and evening shows. How does it hurt them in the ratings?

At Townsquare, WYRK runs a syndicated evening show. How has it hurt them in the ratings?

"Radio - Where Nobody Cares". See lyrics to Bruce Springsteen "RADIO NOWHERE".

Buddy's comment about everything being homogenized is a bit late. This happened a long time ago. The local staff on music stations were reduced to being liner card readers anyway. STAR will be all Xmas soon, so they can run the same voice tracks every year. Nobody would notice...
 
"Radio - Where Nobody Cares". See lyrics to Bruce Springsteen "RADIO NOWHERE".

Bruce has enough money to fix it, but he doesn't. He could have bought WPLJ and run a radio station the right way, but he didn't.

Bruce and Tom Petty are part of the problem. They made millions off radio airplay, and then complain because the money train stopped.

So he just pockets a check from Sirius for the Bruce channel, and he's happy. No live & local talent on Sirius.
 
Bruce has enough money to fix it, but he doesn't. He could have bought WPLJ and run a radio station the right way, but he didn't.

Bruce and Tom Petty are part of the problem. They made millions off radio airplay, and then complain because the money train stopped.

So he just pockets a check from Sirius for the Bruce channel, and he's happy. No live & local talent on Sirius.

Strange argument. You're blaming musicians (One who is long dead) for Radio's woes. The two you mentioned made money from record sales and touring. Radio had little or nothing to do with their success...
 
Strange argument. You're blaming musicians (One who is long dead) for Radio's woes. The two you mentioned made money from record sales and touring. Radio had little or nothing to do with their success...

In their peak eras, radio was key to the success of essentially all major artists.

Whether it was airplay encouraging record sales or station promotions for local concert dates, radio had a big part in artist success. In the pre-Internet period of those artist's careers, radio station visits were a key to touring.

They made money due to a combination of factors, of course. But radio was a vital one.

(And I don't think the musicians are being blamed... that was just a comment about "if you are so willing to criticize, why didn't you do something about it with your money?)
 
"Radio - Where Nobody Cares". See lyrics to Bruce Springsteen "RADIO NOWHERE".

It's funny to note that in Spanish language contemporary music there is an artist who often and virulently criticized radio for being too commercial, too low-class and tasteless.

He sold records to a smallish cult following.

At some point, what radio PDs had been saying all along, "try adding a hook to you monotonous pseudo-intellectual songs", was successfully conveyed to him. He wrote songs with hooks. Real hook, not ones buried two minutes deep in a six-minute song. They got airplay, he sold more records and got solo concerts. Amazing.

The concept is rather universal, although in J-pop and K-pop it has gone to extremes where almost entire songs are hooks... over and over.
 
Strange argument. You're blaming musicians (One who is long dead) for Radio's woes. The two you mentioned made money from record sales and touring. Radio had little or nothing to do with their success...

Neither sold any records until they had radio hits. Radio also drove fans to their concerts. But I'm not blaming them for anything. Just making an observation. Radio's woes are caused by lack of advertising money. It's not for lack of desire. David Field would love nothing more than traditional local radio.

If Bruce harkens for the old days when radio stations had full staffs, he could simply buy a radio station and make it happen. He has the finances to do it. He no longer has to depend on some rich guy to do it. He's now that rich guy. Lots of other musicians have owned radio stations. Stevie Wonder owns a station in LA.

Have you ever listened to his channel on Sirius? Maybe late at night? Are there live DJs keeping late night drivers company? No. All VT. So his own branded radio channel is no different from the other stations he complains about. Nobody cares about Radio Springsteen. Including its namesake.
 
Nobody cares. Middays and evenings. Kiss and Star have already eliminated local talent in middays and evenings.

As long as the music doesn't change, nobody cares.

WBEN already runs syndicated midday and evening shows. How does it hurt them in the ratings?

At Townsquare, WYRK runs a syndicated evening show. How has it hurt them in the ratings?

Someone told radio that if the plane starts to nosedive, pull back on the yoke!
 
Neither sold any records until they had radio hits. Radio also drove fans to their concerts. But I'm not blaming them for anything. Just making an observation. Radio's woes are caused by lack of advertising money. It's not for lack of desire. David Field would love nothing more than traditional local radio.

If Bruce harkens for the old days when radio stations had full staffs, he could simply buy a radio station and make it happen. He has the finances to do it. He no longer has to depend on some rich guy to do it. He's now that rich guy. Lots of other musicians have owned radio stations. Stevie Wonder owns a station in LA.

Have you ever listened to his channel on Sirius? Maybe late at night? Are there live DJs keeping late night drivers company? No. All VT. So his own branded radio channel is no different from the other stations he complains about. Nobody cares about Radio Springsteen. Including its namesake.

Springsteen won 2 Grammy's for the song "Radio Nowhere". It didn't get much airplay on commercial Radio. Having said that, the Grammys are a farce anyway.

As for Satellite Radio, the content is often decent. The sound quality is poor. Content can be good whether voice tracked or live. His comments about the song are about the homogenized "Radio Product". It's the same everywhere. It really doesn't matter because it's a different era now, which was the point of his song...
 
iHeart and the Dickey-led iteration of Cumulus did such a great job of cutting their way to prosperity. Yeah, they've certainly led the race to the bottom.
 
His comments about the song are about the homogenized "Radio Product". It's the same everywhere. It really doesn't matter because it's a different era now, which was the point of his song...

The people in radio don't sing or make records. So he's dissing his fellow musicians. Very classy. Radio Springsteen is the same everywhere too.
 
iHeart and the Dickey-led iteration of Cumulus did such a great job of cutting their way to prosperity. Yeah, they've certainly led the race to the bottom.

iHeart is likely closer than anyone imagines to what the future reality of radio will be: a national stream, with local versions on radio stations in many if not most markets. The local stations will complement the national stream by inserting localized content that is of value and by, in some cases, modifying the playlist to reflect local or regional tastes.

Talent will be national. The concept will be national. The main product will be the stream, but the local stations will allow for regional or market specific advertising while the national stream will mirror national TV in reach.

There is a good chance that in 5 to 10 years we will think of Pittman as a visionary and ahead of his time. Of course, he is just using the Internet angle to modernize what has been the norm in much of the world for the last half century or more.
 
Radio is essentially gonna be dead. Unless you have a local station concentrating on local things, with a good coverage area. Otherwise, forget it. This plays into WECKS hands.
 
Radio is essentially gonna be dead. Unless you have a local station concentrating on local things, with a good coverage area. Otherwise, forget it. This plays into WECKS hands.

There is likely room for a few localized, friendly stations for the older generations. But in most of the world and going back half a century, music stations have predominantly been rebroadcast from a "home" studio over dozens or hundreds of transmitters to cover a whole nation.

In fact, several American broadcasters have failed internationally by not knowing that a "local only" station is neither liked nor financially successful.
 
One of the better threads on this board in a long while. Springsteen, Petty, Local Radio, Pittman, Cumulus. Much as I like a lot of the artists who bemoan the demise of radio, I can't help think they're being hypocritical. If Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty (or his estate), Taylor Swift and Eric Church bought an FM in NY & LA that instead went to EMF, what would result? Chaos. To keep the owners happy, you could imagine something like Alt Rock in AM Drive; CHR Middays; Country in PM Drive; Classic Rock at night; Urban/EDM all night. Who'd listen to that? Maybe a 1 share at best. The stations would become money pits after a year or two. The accountants would advise the individual shareholders they have to trim costs or sell. Sound familiar?

 
Stevie Wonder paid $2 million for KJLH in 1979. I'm sure he could sell it for a profit.


It's 27th in market billing, around the level of KWkW and KLAA. Based on billing, it is likely worth about $15 million.

The real issue is who would want it. A major FM had to go to EMF because there were no other interested parties.
 
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