Harold Camping: Predicting The Rapture Was "Sinful"

[DToTheJ]

http://www.radiosurvivor.com/2012/0...ts-family-radio-was-wrong-to-predict-rapture/

Though you will be pleased to hear this:

"Family Radio has no interest in even considering another date. God has humbled us through the events of May 21, to continue to even more fervently search the Scriptures (the Bible), not to find dates, but to be more faithful in our understanding."

 

[drchuck]

At the risk of creating a bad joke... hallelujah

 

[stationless listener]

Well, he can "atone for his sin" by finally selling WFME to a secular broadcaster ASAP.

The stations in the non-comm section of the dial can be turned over to universities or radio enthusiasts.

 

[jhguthlac]

Family Radio was a class act until Camping turned it into a side-show. Glad he learned his mistake.

 

[Element9]

"Too soon old; too late smart."

 

[badjef]

Camping got old and senile. All the years of studying the bible, and he allowed himself to get caught into something contrary to his own teachings and bible verses.

"But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only. (Matthew 24:36 ASV)

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[MyCatKnight]

The awesome Tom Note still did the longest, most comprehensive tri-state traffic report anywhere on Family Radio before I left the market (2 minutes long, IIRC). Is he still on there?

 

[DavidKaye]

Camping got old and senile. All the years of studying the bible, and he allowed himself to get caught into something contrary to his own teachings and bible verses.

There is NOTHING to indicate that Harold Camping is senile. For you to say so is an INSULT to the man who has been most generous with his employees (believers and NON-believers) over the years. When push came to shove and Family Radio was bleeding money, he put his own personal money into the organization to keep it afloat.

Now, lots of people make stupid predictions -- how about all those non-religious people who believe that the world will end when the Mayan calendar runs out? That prediction is just as whacked as Hal Camping's prediction.

 

[badjef]

Camping got old and senile. All the years of studying the bible, and he allowed himself to get caught into something contrary to his own teachings and bible verses.

There is NOTHING to indicate that Harold Camping is senile. For you to say so is an INSULT to the man who has been most generous with his employees (believers and NON-believers) over the years. When push came to shove and Family Radio was bleeding money, he put his own personal money into the organization to keep it afloat.

Now, lots of people make stupid predictions -- how about all those non-religious people who believe that the world will end when the Mayan calendar runs out? That prediction is just as whacked as Hal Camping's prediction.

The predictions ARE an indicator. I quoted the contradiction. You will find the similar quotes in the NIV or KJV, as well. A man deeply rooted in Faith, ignores the basic foundation of his Religion is either senile or a fraud. I don't believe Brother Camping is a fraud.

I agree with you on the other points.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[Shredder]

why are we still giving time to this old fart? People like this are why I don't believe in any religion. Give me science anyday. It's more likely to destroy the world than god one day anyway ;o)

 

[WNTIRadio]

There is NOTHING to indicate that Harold Camping is senile. For you to say so is an INSULT to the man who has been most generous with his employees (believers and NON-believers) over the years. When push came to shove and Family Radio was bleeding money, he put his own personal money into the organization to keep it afloat.

Now, lots of people make stupid predictions -- how about all those non-religious people who believe that the world will end when the Mayan calendar runs out? That prediction is just as whacked as Hal Camping's prediction.

I think what Camping did was far worse than anything Rush Limbaugh said. For months, he prayed (pun intended) on the gullible and "lost" of society and led them to believe that the world was coming to an end and the second coming was going to happen. He was very definite and could not be argued with on any contrary point. The result is that people who followed him sold their houses, uprooted their lives and families all based on some conjecture that the world was coming to an end, based on doing what so many do with the Bible, which is make it say what they want it to say, and not what it actually says. Nobody lost their life savings because of Rush. In fact, a lot of people make their livings because of Rush, from his own employees to Premiere to the local stations that sell time during his show. Camping did the opposite, and elevated himself to cult leader status telling everyone to leave their churches and follow his word.

That is irresponsible broadcasting, and a far cry from a wrong prediction. If the weatherman gets it wrong, then I am caught without an umbrella. If the sports host gets it wrong, then maybe someone's out a few bucks they bet on the game. But that is known that there isn't an exact science behind sports predictions, and some science and still a lot of gut instincts with the weather. Camping sold a guarantee that "The rapture is coming on 5/21/11" and ya know what happened? Diddly squat. Just another day. And all of those poor souls who got sucked into his madness found themselves at the least extremely disappointed and at most adrift without a job, home or any security and having to start all over again.

Didn't Orson Welles get in trouble for saying Martians have landed? What makes Camping's stunt any different? Is is because he actually believed his own delusion?

 

[landtuna]

Didn't Orson Welles get in trouble for saying Martians have landed? What makes Camping's stunt any different? Is is because he actually believed his own delusion?

The world will always contain gullible people who believe all sorts of fantasies. Likewise, the world will always contain people who bet on the outcome of all manner of events, sports and otherwise. When they lose, they lose. It should teach both types a lesson but it never seems to do so. They keep on listening, betting and losing.

Camping isn't any different that any other preacher guaranteeing life after death and a place in heaven for the faithful.

Welles "got in trouble" because there were gullible people who tuned in after the program started and thought it was a news broadcast (despite several announcements to the contrary I am told). Apparently then, as now, you have to "idiot proof" everything so that people who don't both to think don't injure or delude themselves.

 

[recto101]

Well we have to Wait for December 21st, 2012. Everybody will go after Camping again and say "He is a crook."

 

[nd2023]

Well we have to Wait for December 21st, 2012. Everybody will go after Camping again and say "He is a crook."

Harold Camping did not make the December 21 prediction. But nevertheless I'm sure some people will still put the blame on him.

If anything, his failed predictions last year might be the reason December 21 won't have much fanfare.

It's interesting that the world was supposed to end on the 21st of the month.

 

[nd2023]

Of course now Harold Camping is mad that the world did not end and he's selling affiliates in 3 big markets to pay for all the billboards.

 

[luperm]

The awesome Tom Note still did the longest, most comprehensive tri-state traffic report anywhere on Family Radio before I left the market (2 minutes long, IIRC). Is he still on there?

Yes, he does. Mostly focused on NJ with a little LI stuff. No mentions of the northern suburbs.

 

[DToTheJ]

I've also heard Tom Note do traffic reports on AM 970 - at least when it was known as "The Apple."

 

[WNTIRadio]

Did he predict a "Road Rapture" that didn't happen?

 

[R.F. Burns]

There is NOTHING to indicate that Harold Camping is senile. For you to say so is an INSULT to the man who has been most generous with his employees (believers and NON-believers) over the years. When push came to shove and Family Radio was bleeding money, he put his own personal money into the organization to keep it afloat.

Now, lots of people make stupid predictions -- how about all those non-religious people who believe that the world will end when the Mayan calendar runs out? That prediction is just as whacked as Hal Camping's prediction.

I think what Camping did was far worse than anything Rush Limbaugh said. For months, he prayed (pun intended) on the gullible and "lost" of society and led them to believe that the world was coming to an end and the second coming was going to happen. He was very definite and could not be argued with on any contrary point. The result is that people who followed him sold their houses, uprooted their lives and families all based on some conjecture that the world was coming to an end, based on doing what so many do with the Bible, which is make it say what they want it to say, and not what it actually says. Nobody lost their life savings because of Rush. In fact, a lot of people make their livings because of Rush, from his own employees to Premiere to the local stations that sell time during his show. Camping did the opposite, and elevated himself to cult leader status telling everyone to leave their churches and follow his word.

That is irresponsible broadcasting, and a far cry from a wrong prediction. If the weatherman gets it wrong, then I am caught without an umbrella. If the sports host gets it wrong, then maybe someone's out a few bucks they bet on the game. But that is known that there isn't an exact science behind sports predictions, and some science and still a lot of gut instincts with the weather. Camping sold a guarantee that "The rapture is coming on 5/21/11" and ya know what happened? Diddly squat. Just another day. And all of those poor souls who got sucked into his madness found themselves at the least extremely disappointed and at most adrift without a job, home or any security and having to start all over again.

Didn't Orson Welles get in trouble for saying Martians have landed? What makes Camping's stunt any different? Is is because he actually believed his own delusion?

Why do people seem to be excusing Limbaugh by saying so and so was worse. There have been countless dictators and evil people who have done things all would consider worse than Limbaugh's transgessions. That doesn't excuse him for slandering a private citizen for 3 days with false stories about her testimony.

 

[badjef]

why are we still giving time to this old fart? People like this are why I don't believe in any religion. Give me science anyday. It's more likely to destroy the world than god one day anyway ;o)

Without getting too technical and at the risk of being too philosophical: since God made the world, He can destroy it. Science only tries to explain how. God gave us the ability to pay attention and to share and pass on all of our combined knowledge to the next generation. No other animal can do that.

We can no more destroy the 4.5billion year old planet, than we can build another one. Oh, sure, we can change our little portion of it to suit our needs and conveniences, but when we are finished with it, the Earth will take it back within a very short period of time.

But when the Bible even states that no man shall know the end, for Dr. Camping to try to find the date, means to me that he was questioning his own faith. I don't think he meant any desecration at the time he went in that direction and citing dates. It would not have made sense.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!