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Harold Camping

Was that a recovering Rev. Camping I heard on family radio this past friday morning? It sure sounded like him speaking very carefully each word! Like one recovering from a stroke. If it was he's seems to be doing quite well! Does anyone know if it was?
 
Nick said:
He ended up predicting the end of his world almost correctly
I catch the tongue in cheek, but I see it the other way around as his failed predictions led to his health problems.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
ronald54321 said:
Why would anyone listen to Family Radio after what happened?

Who understands the mind of people who survey the "marketplace of religion" and choose to attach themselves to the outliers of the genre. There are people who cannot find fulfillment in religion that appears to be coherent. There is a mindset which holds that if a religion is easily believable, then it can't be valid.

So, if you are a person who expects life to be logical, and expects religions to be in the same space as logical life, you will probably always have trouble understanding some of the pretty flourishing religious expressions that appeal to people today.
 
So glad finally that old geezer of a station is off 94.7 and is now country. Who ever listened to it is beyond me. I am Christian and like CCM music from the 90's and now not something that came out over 50 years ago. Now WBAI has to be sold and go away. ::)
 
Country music fans should be sending flowers to Harold (no jokes, please) for mucking up what was a decent situation for Family Radio. Thanks to him, NY radio just got a bit more interesting.
 
Tony_Ramirez said:
Now WBAI has to be sold and go away.
Do you mean because they are
Tony_Ramirez said:
...something that came out over 50 years ago.
and because you would expect their replacement to offer CCM ???
 
danikayser84 said:
ai4i said:
Tony_Ramirez said:
Now WBAI has to be sold and go away.
Do you mean because they are
Tony_Ramirez said:
...something that came out over 50 years ago.
and because you would expect their replacement to offer CCM ???
Heh, what about Salem buying 99.5 and putting a Fish format on there? ;)


As mentioned before, I can't imagine WBAI-Pacifica completely disappearing from New York. If they are smart, however, they would cash out 99.5 for some substantial cash, and peel off a few bills to buy a nice New York AM, or take it in a trade + cash from an AM owner who really wants an FM.

Much of WBAI's programming is non-music anyway.
 
WBAI being sold will take YEARS and not come without a fight, possibly physical.

They have had people break in to the transmitter site at Empire, barricade the studio, send threats etc. over much less.

You're looking at WBAI from a logical business perspective. They're looking at it from a "this is our last stand and our voice and we shall not be moved" standpoint.

Don't hold your breath on WBAI.
 
BAI is "movin' on up" from their $38,000 a month studios on Wall Street to Harlem. They will lease one studio from City College's WHCR-90.3 at 138th Street and Convent Avenue

This cost-cutting effort may hold-off the sale of the station which is being promoted by a faction of the WBAI Local Board and Pacifica headquarters in California.
 
So half the staff will be at 4 World Financial and the on-air crazies will be in Harlem.

Let's see how long this lasts. When some shenanigans are pulled and WHCR has people protesting in front of their building.

The idiots should have moved to Queens, NJ or Brooklyn and centralized if they really wanted to save money.

Probably could have taken over a part of the old WFAN Astoria studios for a song and have a broadcast facility ready to go.
 
WNTIRadio said:
So half the staff will be at 4 World Financial and the on-air crazies will be in Harlem.

Let's see how long this lasts. When some shenanigans are pulled and WHCR has people protesting in front of their building.

The idiots should have moved to Queens, NJ or Brooklyn and centralized if they really wanted to save money.

Probably could have taken over a part of the old WFAN Astoria studios for a song and have a broadcast facility ready to go.
Now, really, do you think they would they know what to do with a real studio?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Every time I heard Camping on the air I always expected him to take a long pause and then say "BRRRRAAAIIINNSSSSSS"
 
Country Fans should thank Harold Camping for this one. Without his failures to Family radio and HE DAMAGED this minstry long before the end of the world debacle. What really hurt Family Radio was his rejection of the local church. Baptists and Reformed Presbyterians (including Christian reformed and Dutch Reformed) were the lifeblood of WFME. In the New York Metro area, most people are either Catholic or Jewish. The rest can range from Baptist to Pentecostal to mainline (United Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterian USA, etc) to agnostic to unchurched to lapsed. Plus all those people formerly active in all the above religions that no longer practice anything (Catholics and Jews included). This leaves a small percentage of people interested in Family radio to begin with. But the fundamentalists from places like Parsippany Baptist Chruch or the First Christian Reformed Church or other like minded churches, while scarce, overall there are still quite a few of these. It was this base that supported Family Radio. And they were loyal. Even such local churches donated money to Family Radio as part of their missions budget. Even Charasmatic, Evangelical, and WOrd Of Faith Christians were not supporting Family Radio. So it was a small group in the conservative realm of Christianity that supported WFME locally and fiercly and loyally. And WFME pulled in huge sums of money from these donations.

But in 2002, Camping bit the hands that fed him by saying these churches are apostate and that Family Radio should replace church attendance. He pulled all programming from local churches from local stations, he pulled national ministries airing on Family Radio, and he made Family Radio strictly in house. So since then donations fell. This end of the world debacle gave Family Radio attention and blind support mostly from people that never had anything to do with Calvinistic or Reformed Theology. Many were unchurched all along. Others were lapsed Cactholics and lapsed mainline protestants. Many adopted Family radio's newfound beliefs. Camping meanwhile by 2005 was no longer embracing most Calvinistic theology.

So Camping damaged Family Radio as far back as 2001 and 2002. He had many chances to fix it and refused to. Had Camping stuck to WFME's original mission, WFME would still be Family Radio today and would be a top 20 biller as far as donations (yes they took in as much money as many commercial stations in the area) are concerned. WFME was Family Radio's hugest fundraising station. It sustained much fo Family's Missionary budget.

So Camping threw it all away and gave Country Music fans a radio station. So he is the man you should all thank.
 
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