Has Double O killed PFM with Bob?

[redneckriviera]

Stellar performance for the Great 108--down to #12 in a town of 39,000! So much for a CHR "race" in PCB.

And three of OO's four FMs finish #9, #10 and #12. The spoiler? Long-forgotten and much-abused WASJ, now Adult Hits "Bob"--skyrocketing to #3.

Some of us (????) have been saying for years that the gaping hole--radio hole--in Panama City was for a Hot AC. So rather than morphing PFM into a Hot AC, they slap Hot AC's first cousin--Adult Hits--on their tail-end signal, and it not only shoots into the Top 3--it also kills their 100,000-watt CHR, giving Island 106 a two-to-one lead.

So, the Mighty 107.9 is back down there with taxi calls in the old ratings dumper. What to do now?

 

[Rob]

dear current owners of WPFM go back to your roots, thanks.

it sounded fun back then when i heard the transmissions (all though it being in mono) that thegreat108wpfm did on ustream brought me back to when WYYY was manually done (because i was up there back then)

i would like to thank the man behind the twittername/ustream for bringing back the old 108 on ustream. this sounded like it came from the board because i heard board hum.

 

[Stewy]

Good post RNR. Please forgive but Bob? Is this the same "chubby Santa" that is the envy of his golf club? Is this Bob in PCB smiling as broadly as the Bob that I am thinking of? Maybe the 100k was whipped by Enzyte? Should we ask for a Dr.'s script for 100 mg Viagra with a double shot of testosterone?

 

[cceng1]

rob.....you wouldn't know what "board hum" was if it bit you in the a$$

 

[Rob]

i've heard board hum many times

 

[Stewy]

Hey CC, it that what happens when the Andrea True Connection visit Bob?

 

[redneckriviera]

Hey CC, it that what happens when the Andrea True Connection visit Bob?

Ol' Andrea will have to phone it in. "We don't need no stinkin' jocks!"

Ten bucks says Oh-Oh will look at Bob's success and get rid of the remaining few humans in the building. "Hey, if we can do this with a iPod plugged into a transmitter, what in the hell are we paying these guys for?"

Computers are our friends. Unless we work in radio. Then, they're friends who want our jobs.

 

[Tibbs4]

i've heard board hum many times

Do you hear those pops and bangs on 92.5 everytiume theyure=strobeys go off? They need a engineers wirth a damn. who owns theym>? Also, how many stobeys is on that pole and what color are they? i cant get 92.5 here cuase of 92.9 tropo.
plus i have boycotted WPAP because their letters are really close to WPFM in the alphabit and they should change those

 

[cceng1]

dem strobies be white n dare there are 3 levels plus de top one.....day shur r purdy

 

[jmtillery]

i've heard board hum many times

Do you hear those pops and bangs on 92.5 everytiume theyure=strobeys go off? They need a engineers wirth a damn. who owns theym>?

Our good friends from San Antonio, Texas, a/k/a the Mays family a/k/a Clear Channel Communications owns WPAP-FM 92.5 along with WFLF-FM 94.5, WDIZ-AM 590, WFSY-FM 98.5, and WEBZ-FM 99.3.

Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
Online: www.jmtillery.com
E-mail: [email protected]

 

[phr8trayn]

I'm confuzed. r ya'll talkin bout tirwers or beer? When i was younger i drank Strob Lite

 

[cceng1]

uh tillery.....I am the engineer for those stations.....I how very well who the Mays' are and where they live......don't pay attention to Tibbs.....he lives a long way from Panama City and can't pick up any of those stations....he was just trying to start something and you took the hook....

Charlie Wooten
Dir of Engineering and IT
Clear Channel Radio
Panama City
WPAP-WFSY-WEBZ-WFLF-WDIZ-WPBH*

*WPBH is in the Aloha Trust

 

[Tibbs4]

Stealing robfwbs new post lead word...oopsie

Mr. Tillery --- Yeah, I was having my warped fun here on Radio-Info. Sorry. CCENG aka Charlie Wooten is a terrific engineer and great guy! If any cluster's stations are near perfect --- it's Panama City thanks to his tireless effort. He's been awarded Engineer of the Year from Clear Channel and won countless awards and probably lots of neat prizes for his ability. I never would be serious about his lack of ability there (and know he didn't yell at me or anything). Apologies to you for going out of your way to give us the info. And Charlie, poking fun at his signals. I owe you both Gin and beers (whew, my tab is climbing to the record levels already).

--- RNR, I havent seen the "real numbers" to confirm PFM's total demise, butt it seems like we predicted this two-four years ago. I seriously
wonder if Double <0 <0 will flip the 107.9 frequency to the first non-rock format since it went on the air. Not good. I think even rob's right ... the format was just sitting there. 96.3 JACK-FM's rotating ALL 80's weekends here in Nashville..you should check the p-list. Coulda / shoulda / gotta...

Charlie, how many strobey's are on the PFM tower. Who else is on that pole now? I can't remember. That signals not what it was back in the 80's is it? Is that null down near the water hurting their numbers or do they just drag and suck so bad no one listens? Probably are some real pops and bangs there.
Rob? Whatcha herring on that number on your raydio?

 

[Rob]

right now, the mississippi station on 107.9

 

[radioboy]

We used to get PFM pretty decent here in Tallahassee but WFSD-LP is on the air now.

Used to go to Mexico Beach every summer as my grandaddy had a beach house there. My brother always listened
to the Great 108.

On the other hand, for some reason I was fascinated with WJOE 1080 in Port St. Joe. Later met Beth Adkins, who
was a manager there. She and I are still friends. All I had was a Panasonic Panapet 70 AM radio..so it was mostly either WJOE or the then-59-DLP.

After sunset we all listened to WPFM.

 

[jmtillery]

uh tillery.....I am the engineer for those stations.....I how very well who the Mays' are and where they live......don't pay attention to Tibbs.....he lives a long way from Panama City and can't pick up any of those stations....he was just trying to start something and you took the hook....

Charlie Wooten
Dir of Engineering and IT
Clear Channel Radio
Panama City
WPAP-WFSY-WEBZ-WFLF-WDIZ-WPBH*

*WPBH is in the Aloha Trust

Charlie,

I appreciate the info and insight regarding the Panama City cluster and your association with the stations. My response was mainly because not everyone knows who owns what, so I was attempting to give an accurate answer to the question asked...

On a side note, I was contacted several years ago to become Program Director of WPAP before Clear Channel acquired the station. I think the GM's name was "Bo" but the last name slips my memory. I didn't get the job, but I considered it an honor to be considered...

Great thread... I always learn somethig new each time I visit these discussion boards...

Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
www.jmtillery.com
[email protected]

 

[cceng1]

Bo Boman was his name....he was GM until Charlie Giddens and Paul Stone bought the stations....then Bo left....they had a female GM for a while until CC came in.....CC bought them from Paxson in late 1997. I came to work for Paxson on March 1, 1997 and been there since. Speaking of Charles Giddens....he was one of my favorite owners....he was "good people"....he died unexpectedly several years ago of a brain embolism (sp?) RIP CG

Tibbs...no strobeys on PFM's tower (ch 7's tower)...they have red lights. PFM's signal is good...it's the modulation (engineering lingo for programming) that is the problem.

Back in 80's there were no other big signals above 107 except PFM...they had no 1st or 2nd adjacent interference so it went on and on and on....now it is crowded...

 

[Tibbs4]

CCENG -- I feel bad evening posting this, but having some understanding of certain radio formats,
I gotta seriously ask this question: "Why did Bob it get such a great book?"

I listened to Bob for an hour (online). It's all I could take. My eight year old daughter could format
that better (wait she could format all radio better then me anyway). It's devoid of anything
exceptional from tightness to playlist. Jack (overall, in the top markets where he's programmed
locally, at maybe even market #44) is just better. And the music could be virtually the same on Bob
and it's got less life. Look at the playlist...unexceptional.

Where is the unique on it in PCB? It seems vunerable. One good book is not the future, for sure,
but the dead air and sheer boredom ran me off over and over. Certainly, someone can improve
on this. Am I missing something? Granted it was Sunday night after 8 PM, but whew!

Not really so fired up to trash it, after the good book, but it is Double nada, so I guess it is
what it is.

How can that cluster stay profitable...geez. (I will leave storbey's out on this one, unless rob asks)

Rob --- start something new. Anything.

 

[cceng1]

an old saying from the south "even a blind hog can find an acorn every now and then"

I don't think Bob will make it through another book.....granted this one was a good one....and averaged with the previous book.....I still contend that the 3rd book will show a trend down....I have had someone hold a gun on me while I have listened to Bob and I agree, it will drive you crazy with the music and the dead air. As an added bonus, you could probably sit and write down the titles that play and discover that they always play in the same order....I noticed this while a gun was held to my head for an extended time.......

come on, rob, piss us off so we can talk about something else....

cceng

 

[jmtillery]

Wasn't WPFM AOR at one time in the '70s? It seems to me when 1430 was WPCF and co-owned with 107.9, the FM signal was AOR while WPCF was Top/Hot AC. This would have been before 1430 became 3WQ with the call letters WWWQ. At that time the overall radio band on AM and FM in Panama City and the Panhandle were much less crowded.

Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
New York - Orlando
Online: www.jmtillery.com
Blog: http://jmtillery.blogspot.com
E-mail: [email protected]