Hate to rub it in

[VERITAS DE VOCE]

And all I think the habitués in here would offer is that revenue and those ideas went south the second that cracked conference table began offering the Caspar Milquetoast version of smooth jazz. Before then? It was a better place

 

[Talktalk]

is there a version of smooth jazz that is NOT milk toast?

 

[salemjedi54]

is there a version of smooth jazz that is NOT milk toast?

yes there is. As i have said before and others also, the playlist of the KOAI that was on 107.5 owned by Granum and CBS was horriffic. They brought R&B into the format. They moved Musical Starstreams from 10pm to 12am on Sundays. They changed personalities left and right. When Gannett owned 106.1 version of KOAI, they never played the same song twice in a day. There was no R&B music in the play list. There was no stayed true to who they were and they knew their audience.

 

[Talktalk]

Help me with this...As a jazz fan, what exactly is it that you LIKE about SJ? How can you say you like SJ but slam the likes of Kenny G or John Tesh? Is it that you like the Muzak they produce, bland, whitebread covers of other songs? The lake of anything improvisational or passionate?

If they brought back your prcecious (sp) KOAI, what makes you think it would be any different? What makes you believe that they would stunt, roll out, falter from the first trend, get advertisers on who fail from day one THEN, in an effort to save things, start adding your R&B influence to try and pull the older Urban listeners...THEN, when ethnic comp gets too big, add MORE R&B because that is what the listeners clamour for...blah, blah, blah. Learn from history people.

Our friend Albert defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over expecting different results...

 

[salemjedi54]

Help me with this...As a jazz fan, what exactly is it that you LIKE about SJ? How can you say you like SJ but slam the likes of Kenny G or John Tesh? Is it that you like the Muzak they produce, bland, whitebread covers of other songs? The lake of anything improvisational or passionate?

If they brought back your prcecious (sp) KOAI, what makes you think it would be any different? What makes you believe that they would stunt, roll out, falter from the first trend, get advertisers on who fail from day one THEN, in an effort to save things, start adding your R&B influence to try and pull the older Urban listeners...THEN, when ethnic comp gets too big, add MORE R&B because that is what the listeners clamour for...blah, blah, blah. Learn from history people.

Our friend Albert defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over expecting different results...

For one TALK...I have never slammed any artist. I am one of the few people who actually likes Kenny G. I don't know what type of music you listen to or what ever, but if you are a die hard fan of it then so be it. Its not for me to crititize what folk listen to. I don't like country or classical music. But I don't want it to go away. Someone likes it, so they should have that outlet.

I love smooth jazz because its relaxing to me. Like I have said in earlier posts, smooth jazz opened up the world of jazz to me. I never paid any attention to any kind of jazz until I found the Oasis. Now I can appreciate what Monk, Bird Parker, Miles, Count Basie, and Louis Armstrong did for the genre. But I would have never developed that appreciation of Chick Corea, David Sanborn, Kenny G, Peter White, Alex Bugnon would have never graced my ear drums. it may be all whitebread to you, but don't downgrade something that you don't like because you don't like it. Just say "I don't like it" and move on. How do you know its not passionate. Smooth Jazz may not move YOU, but it does something for me.

I don't know what would be different if the original KOAI came back, but I do know this...It would be 10000000000000% better than what CBS did with it.

 

[VERITAS DE VOCE]

...and to that great point.

It may interest you that there are some routine radioheads out there that hate... HATE... this format... um, called... TALK. It takes all kinds. If it didn't, we would all be listening to KLUV. Do yourself a favor. Endear yourself to true opinions rather than hating on a format that you don't like.

OK, we get it. You don't like jazz. And? That's your reason. "I don't like it and uh, oh yeah, CBS fouled it up." Again, and? There are people out here that did like SJ. CBS screwed it over with the R&B hits. Jazz is jazz. R&B is R&B. The one thing we do know, both take SOUL to be successful.

CBS removed that part out of the format.

 

[JayDavis]

Help me with this...As a jazz fan, what exactly is it that you LIKE about SJ? How can you say you like SJ but slam the likes of Kenny G or John Tesh? Is it that you like the Muzak they produce, bland, whitebread covers of other songs? The lake of anything improvisational or passionate?

If they brought back your prcecious (sp) KOAI, what makes you think it would be any different? What makes you believe that they would stunt, roll out, falter from the first trend, get advertisers on who fail from day one THEN, in an effort to save things, start adding your R&B influence to try and pull the older Urban listeners...THEN, when ethnic comp gets too big, add MORE R&B because that is what the listeners clamour for...blah, blah, blah. Learn from history people.

Our friend Albert defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over expecting different results...

For one TALK...I have never slammed any artist. I am one of the few people who actually likes Kenny G. I don't know what type of music you listen to or what ever, but if you are a die hard fan of it then so be it. Its not for me to crititize what folk listen to. I don't like country or classical music. But I don't want it to go away. Someone likes it, so they should have that outlet.

I love smooth jazz because its relaxing to me. Like I have said in earlier posts, smooth jazz opened up the world of jazz to me. I never paid any attention to any kind of jazz until I found the Oasis. Now I can appreciate what Monk, Bird Parker, Miles, Count Basie, and Louis Armstrong did for the genre. But I would have never developed that appreciation of Chick Corea, David Sanborn, Kenny G, Peter White, Alex Bugnon would have never graced my ear drums. it may be all whitebread to you, but don't downgrade something that you don't like because you don't like it. Just say "I don't like it" and move on. How do you know its not passionate. Smooth Jazz may not move YOU, but it does something for me.

I don't know what would be different if the original KOAI came back, but I do know this...It would be 10000000000000% better than what CBS did with it.

This is an excellent post.

I would hope that if Smooth Jazz ever does make it back onto the DFW airwaves, it would be in the format of 106.1 instead of the 107.5 format. I liked them both and wouldn't complain about either, yet 106.1 took more chances and played stuff that 107.5 wouldn't touch.

I remember a few years ago, maybe it was The Oasis 10th year anniversary or something and they played for a couple of days a lot of the "old stuff" they used to play when they were on 106.1, stuff like Chet Atkins, Horizont and even a cool song from Level 42. That format those couple of days was MUCH better than the 107.5 format.

My wife and I used to also LOVE Musical Starstreams, wow, what a cool show.

Alas, no longer.

I've been up north recently, in the Detroit metropolitan area and they have a Smooth Jazz format. Seems like old times.
There is a very cool new version of the old Janis Ian song, "Poetry Man" and Queen Latifah (sp?) is singing it. It is such an awesome version of that song. Oh how I miss The Oasis!

 

[MikeShannon914]

Minor point..."Poetry Man" is by Phoebe Snow; Janis Ian's hit (released the same year, 1975) was "At Seventeen." So Queen Latifah didn't butcher it too badly?

 

[Robert Bass]

Minor point..."Poetry Man" is by Phoebe Snow; Janis Ian's hit (released the same year, 1975) was "At Seventeen." So Queen Latifah didn't butcher it too badly?

Exactly!

R

 

[salemjedi54]

Help me with this...As a jazz fan, what exactly is it that you LIKE about SJ? How can you say you like SJ but slam the likes of Kenny G or John Tesh? Is it that you like the Muzak they produce, bland, whitebread covers of other songs? The lake of anything improvisational or passionate?

If they brought back your prcecious (sp) KOAI, what makes you think it would be any different? What makes you believe that they would stunt, roll out, falter from the first trend, get advertisers on who fail from day one THEN, in an effort to save things, start adding your R&B influence to try and pull the older Urban listeners...THEN, when ethnic comp gets too big, add MORE R&B because that is what the listeners clamour for...blah, blah, blah. Learn from history people.

Our friend Albert defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over expecting different results...

For one TALK...I have never slammed any artist. I am one of the few people who actually likes Kenny G. I don't know what type of music you listen to or what ever, but if you are a die hard fan of it then so be it. Its not for me to crititize what folk listen to. I don't like country or classical music. But I don't want it to go away. Someone likes it, so they should have that outlet.

I love smooth jazz because its relaxing to me. Like I have said in earlier posts, smooth jazz opened up the world of jazz to me. I never paid any attention to any kind of jazz until I found the Oasis. Now I can appreciate what Monk, Bird Parker, Miles, Count Basie, and Louis Armstrong did for the genre. But I would have never developed that appreciation of Chick Corea, David Sanborn, Kenny G, Peter White, Alex Bugnon would have never graced my ear drums. it may be all whitebread to you, but don't downgrade something that you don't like because you don't like it. Just say "I don't like it" and move on. How do you know its not passionate. Smooth Jazz may not move YOU, but it does something for me.

I don't know what would be different if the original KOAI came back, but I do know this...It would be 10000000000000% better than what CBS did with it.

This is an excellent post.

I would hope that if Smooth Jazz ever does make it back onto the DFW airwaves, it would be in the format of 106.1 instead of the 107.5 format. I liked them both and wouldn't complain about either, yet 106.1 took more chances and played stuff that 107.5 wouldn't touch.

I remember a few years ago, maybe it was The Oasis 10th year anniversary or something and they played for a couple of days a lot of the "old stuff" they used to play when they were on 106.1, stuff like Chet Atkins, Horizont and even a cool song from Level 42. That format those couple of days was MUCH better than the 107.5 format.

My wife and I used to also LOVE Musical Starstreams, wow, what a cool show.

Alas, no longer.

I've been up north recently, in the Detroit metropolitan area and they have a Smooth Jazz format. Seems like old times.
There is a very cool new version of the old Janis Ian song, "Poetry Man" and Queen Latifah (sp?) is singing it. It is such an awesome version of that song. Oh how I miss The Oasis!

www.musicalstarstreams.com I check it out most of the time. There are other online versions of the new age/electronica that Musical Starstreams aired. Check out SomaFM.com and Groove Salad via Itunes radio.

 

[JayDavis]

Sorry, it was Phoebe Snow, my mistake.

But Queen did a great job of a remake of it.

I'll go check out those other sites mentioned above.