Having fun at solar noon...

[crainbebo]

I'm having a lot of fun today around solar noon-DXing on the AM Dial! Here's a bandscan from 1130-1220 PST. There's frost in the shady areas, and it was VERY foggy this morning (before 1100 PST).

530-KNCL518 TIS
540-Burien TIS mixing with one other
550-threshold
560-KPQ weak in KVI slop
570-KVI
580-
590-mix of two stations likely KQNT/KUGN
600-
610-KIXI/KKNW bleed
620-
630-KCIS
640-KXPA bleed
650-CISL
660-KAPS/bleed
670-
680-KBRD
690-CBU
700-
710-KIRO
720-
730-weak CHMJ
740-
750-KXTG Portland strong at times from 150 miles
760-
770-KTTH
780-
790-talk show likely KGMI
800-CKOR/KPDQ weak
810-KTBI strong at times
820-KGNW
830-
840-
850-KHHO
860-KPAM strong at times
870-
880-KIXI
890-
900-what might have been KKRT Wenatchee around 1135 PST, faded
910-
920-KGTK Olympia, KXLY Spokane under
930-KYAK all alone
940-
950-KJR
960-surprisingly nothing
970-KUFO Portland, signal ranging from threshold to good, wide range
980-weak CKNW
990-
1000-KOMO
1010-unid to the S maybe needed KOOR Milwaukie, OR?
1020-KDYK Union Gap, weak
1030-KMAS
1040-
1050-KBLE
1060-unid carrier, either CKMX or KBGN-ID
1070-CFAX
1080-KFXX huge signal
1090-KPTK
1100-
1110-KWDB? very weak
1120-KPNW Eugene very weak
1130-KPWX Mt. Angel OR with Russian programming completely obliterating CKWX into the mud
1140-
1150-KKNW
1160-
1170-
1180-KLAY
1190-KEX good signal
1200-
1210-KMIA
1220-
1230-KWYZ Everett, music UNID under (KOZI? KBNH? KORT?)
1240-IBOC
1250-KKDZ
1260-IBOC
1270-KIXI/KKNW bleed
1280-KIT/KLDY weak
1290-KUMA Pendelton OR very weak signal
1300-KKOL, very weak station under (KLER? KAPL?)
1310-KNPT Newport, OR fair/KZXR Prosser fading up with ESPN Deportes at 1159 PST
1320-very weak
1330-KGRG Enumclaw (the former KENU) and religion (KKPZ? KMBI?)
1340-unid with ABC News at TOH (and weak mix after that)
1350-KRLC Lewiston, TOH ID fair
1360-KKMO
1370-IBOC
1380-KRKO
1390-IBOC, when nulled KWOD Salem, OR
1400-KITZ, unids under
1410-
1420-KRIZ
1430-KBRC and unid (KYKN?)
1440-unids (KMED? CKJR? KODL?)
1450-KSUH Puyallup
1460-KARR
1470-
1480-
1490-KBRO
1500-
1510-IBOC
1520-KKXA Snohomish
1530-
1540-KXPA
1550-
1560-KZIZ
1570-
1580-KGAL fair-good signal at times
1590-KLFE
1600-
1610-
1620-KYIZ
1630-
1640-KDZR weak
1650-
1660-
1670-
1680-KNTS
1690-
1700-Issaquah TIS

-crainbebo

 

[KA7PAT]

Interesting...thanks for the report. It would be fun to coordinate this sometime and see what we both hear at the same time. Pat - W7PAT

 

[ddsparxx]

Here in northern VA, I have been getting almost no NYC's 660, 710, 770 around noon, though i've been getting a little bit of WCBS at any time. I usually get weak NYC's during the winter, but the weather here has been milder than usual, probably has to do with the reception.

 

[MarioMania]

What do you mean by solar noon??

 

[crainbebo]

Roughly the time where the sun is at it's highest peak in the sky-not to be confused by regular noon time-12:00pm.

-crainbebo

 

[cd637299]

Yesterday *was* the shortest day of the year, so this would be THE time for that!

cd

 

[KA7PAT]

Sure been getting 1060 out of Calgary strong this afternoon.

 

[crainbebo]

Me too. 1060 is a strong Calgary right now. I also had the following: 1140 CHRB, 1190 CFSL (no KEX noted), 1310 CHLW (fair), 1330 CJYM and 1440 CKJR Wetaskiwin AB.

-crainbebo

 

[Darth_vader]

I'm surprised you didn't hear KEX's upper Ibiquity channel on 1200. I've heard that one in BC at least once!

@Mario--
If you stand outside on a sunny day and you don't see your shadow or those of objects around you, that's solar noon; usually about mid-day. The sun is at its highest point in the sky, and when observed, would appear to be directly over-head--a 90-degree angle; think of where the "12" is on a clock face, hint hint. It generally tends to *very roughly* coincide with the time of 1200 h, but it can fluxuate wildly depending on your observation site, the time of the year and other factors, so "1200 Noon" can be an extremely unreliable indicator of when "solar noon" is.

 

[drt]

What do you mean by solar noon??

Solar Noon:

Solar noon is the moment when the Sun transits the celestial meridian-- roughly the time when it highest above the horizon on that day. This is also the origin of the terms ante meridiem and post meridiem as noted below. The Sun is directly overhead at solar noon at the equator on the equinoxes; at Tropic of Cancer (latitude 23° 26′ 22″ N) on the June solstice; and at Tropic of Capricorn (23° 26′ 22″ S) on the December solstice.
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Solar noon can vary widely depending on the longitude within the time zone; for today (22 Dec) Solar noon was 1130(EST) in Presque Isle,ME and 1230 in Detroit. (EST)
In California, today, Solar Noon was 1147 in San Diego , 1151 in Long Beach and L.A. and 1204 in Sacramento.

To find Solar Noon in your town or city, go to the following link and Solar Noon will be listed as Sun Transit.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_pap.pl

drt
st. petersburg,fl ( where solar noon was 1229 today)

 

[radioman148]

That link isn't working for me. I'm getting a message that says "Sorry date cannot be processed".

 

[drt]

That link isn't working for me. I'm getting a message that says "Sorry date cannot be processed".

This link might be easier:

http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications

then click on complete sun and moon data for one day, enter date, city and state and then the sun transit time is the same as the solar noon time.

for example, for Chicago, IL for Friday, 23 Dec the following info is contained:

U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department


Sun and Moon Data for One Day

The following information is provided for Chicago, Cook County, Illinois (longitude W87.7, latitude N41.9):
Friday
23 December 2011 Central Standard Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:44 a.m.
Sunrise 7:16 a.m.
Sun transit 11:50 a.m.
Sunset 4:24 p.m.
End civil twilight 4:55 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 2:33 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 6:05 a.m.
Moon transit 10:49 a.m.
Moonset 3:32 p.m.
Moonrise 7:04 a.m. on following day

Hope this helps, I have another way to find it, but I mistakenly thought this would be the easier wayto find the info.

drt,
st. petersburg,fl

 

[radioman148]

That link isn't working for me. I'm getting a message that says "Sorry date cannot be processed".

This link might be easier:

http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications

then click on complete sun and moon data for one day, enter date, city and state and then the sun transit time is the same as the solar noon time.

for example, for Chicago, IL for Friday, 23 Dec the following info is contained:

U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department


Sun and Moon Data for One Day

The following information is provided for Chicago, Cook County, Illinois (longitude W87.7, latitude N41.9):
Friday
23 December 2011 Central Standard Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:44 a.m.
Sunrise 7:16 a.m.
Sun transit 11:50 a.m.
Sunset 4:24 p.m.
End civil twilight 4:55 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 2:33 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 6:05 a.m.
Moon transit 10:49 a.m.
Moonset 3:32 p.m.
Moonrise 7:04 a.m. on following day

Hope this helps, I have another way to find it, but I mistakenly thought this would be the easier wayto find the info.

drt,
st. petersburg,fl

That is it---thank you!

 

[BRNout]

I'm surprised you didn't hear KEX's upper Ibiquity channel on 1200. I've heard that one in BC at least once!

@Mario--
If you stand outside on a sunny day and you don't see your shadow or those of objects around you, that's solar noon; usually about mid-day. The sun is at its highest point in the sky, and when observed, would appear to be directly over-head--a 90-degree angle; think of where the "12" is on a clock face, hint hint. It generally tends to *very roughly* coincide with the time of 1200 h, but it can fluxuate wildly depending on your observation site, the time of the year and other factors, so "1200 Noon" can be an extremely unreliable indicator of when "solar noon" is.

That's only true if you're also at the latitude where the sun is directly overhead. Today, that would be somewhere along the Tropic of Capricorn. I've experienced that, by the way, and the sun feels HOT overhead. Also weird to see shadows cast by overhangs on buildings as the sun shines straight down.

For the rest of us (in the northern hemisphere), solar noon is when your shadow points directly north. It varies, of course, because time zones are relative. drt's website is helpful!

 

[radioman148]

I'm surprised you didn't hear KEX's upper Ibiquity channel on 1200. I've heard that one in BC at least once!

@Mario--
If you stand outside on a sunny day and you don't see your shadow or those of objects around you, that's solar noon; usually about mid-day. The sun is at its highest point in the sky, and when observed, would appear to be directly over-head--a 90-degree angle; think of where the "12" is on a clock face, hint hint. It generally tends to *very roughly* coincide with the time of 1200 h, but it can fluxuate wildly depending on your observation site, the time of the year and other factors, so "1200 Noon" can be an extremely unreliable indicator of when "solar noon" is.

That's only true if you're also at the latitude where the sun is directly overhead. Today, that would be somewhere along the Tropic of Capricorn. I've experienced that, by the way, and the sun feels HOT overhead. Also weird to see shadows cast by overhangs on buildings as the sun shines straight down.

For the rest of us (in the northern hemisphere), solar noon is when your shadow points directly north. It varies, of course, because time zones are relative. drt's website is helpful!

BRNout, where were you & what was the date when you experienced that?
I came close once as I was in Southern Florida in June, but that was as close as I got.

 

[BRNout]

I've experienced it several times: Puerto Rico in June, Ecuador in our spring/fall, Costa Rica in late spring and early summer. In all cases, it's wet season so there's inevitably rain soon after noon. It's also really humid in those places when the sun is high. Really takes the spring out of your step!

One last peculiarity: at those latitudes, twilight is short. Once the sun sets, it gets dark fast! No fooling around. Same is true for sunrise (in the opposite order, of course).

 

[radioman148]

I've experienced it several times: Puerto Rico in June, Ecuador in our spring/fall, Costa Rica in late spring and early summer. In all cases, it's wet season so there's inevitably rain soon after noon. It's also really humid in those places when the sun is high. Really takes the spring out of your step!

One last peculiarity: at those latitudes, twilight is short. Once the sun sets, it gets dark fast! No fooling around. Same is true for sunrise (in the opposite order, of course).

Yeah it was very humid in South Florida in June too when I was there.

 

[n2wds]

Yesterday about 1 pm est I scouted around the dial and came up with the following...from Wellsville, NY:

530 - something was in there but very weak just about audible.
770 WABC weak but understandable
880 WCBS a good signal
1030 WBZ good signal
1060 KYW weak
1100 WTAM weak
1130 WBBR very weak
1140 WRVA in the backround mixed with WCJW which is about 55 miles north of my location
1210 WPHT very weak