HAWAII FIVE-OOH (2ND WEEK DOWN 1.5 MILLION VIEWERS)

[gregg75]

Zap2it reports that Hawaii Five-O lost 1.5 million viewers in it's second week.

 

[Nate Wesley]

Media Life Magazine doesn't have the audience numbers yet, but in terms of 18-49 ratings, H-5-0 was only down ten percent versus its pilot episode.


http://www.medialifemagazine.com/ar...ts_50/NBC-s-The-Event-slides-in-week-two-.asp

 

[FreddyE1977]

Doesn't surprise me. I thought the script for the premiere episode was just bloody awful.
And you never get a second chance to make a first impression.

 

[imhomerjay]

Perhaps their most hyped show sees a drop off in a second week? Not like it hasn't happened before, for shows that have had multiple-season runs.

 

[bpatrick]

I don't think anyone at CBS is panicking; it's not unusual
for a highly-hyped new show to drop a bit in its second week,
and the drop was not as severe as those for "Bionic Woman,"
"Knight Rider," or "Melrose Place" in their second weeks.

 

[imhomerjay]

Indeed, and none of those started from being at the top of premiere week's heap--bigger drop from a lower starting point.

That aside, the pilot/fist episode is by no means the only chance to hook viewers. People come in to shows that have already started airing all the time.

 

[Gregg]

Man, did CBS put all its resources behind this show. They've been running numerous Hawaii Five O promos all summer on all their daytime soaps and game shows as well as plenty of nighttime shows. Most of the other new CBS shows got only a fraction of the push that Hawaii Five O got.

They even spent the money (foolishly I thought) to have people from other states humming the Hawaii-Five O theme in one promo. But how would anyone under 45 remember it that well? Even with the promos that took clips from the show, we've practically seen the entire episode before it even premiered.

I've also commented on the racially insensitive casting of the show. In a state that's more than 60% Asian/Pacific Islander, the two leads are two white guys. The two Asian cast members are clearly in secondary roles, even though Danial Dae Kim has the best resume of the group, having been in "Lost" for so many years and in the Oscar-winning movie "Crash." Does Hawaii need a couple of white guys to solve its crime problems?

Yes, there were the very tired cop-buddy cliches. They don't like each other, they even have a fistfight, but they've got to work together, and they start to appreciate each other, blah, blah, blah. Both O'Laughlin and Kim broke all sorts of records as high school quarterbacks, O'Laughlin is a former navy seal who had his dad and everyone in his convoy killed by bad guys, etc.

Never the less, the action was pretty good. CBS certainly spent a lot of money to blow things up in the opening episode. So if you want escapist action in a beautiful locale, I guess the show will be successful, even if the second week saw a drop off of viewers.


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[sfradio]

nbc has to be more worried about the event, that is also a show that has been hyped, and lost considerably lots of viewers, from 3.7 to 2.9 and down 2 million viewers

 

[bpatrick]

Indeed, and none of those started from being at the top of premiere week's heap--bigger drop from a lower starting point.

That aside, the pilot/fist episode is by no means the only chance to hook viewers. People come in to shows that have already started airing all the time.

And the history of television is chock-full of examples; "M*A*S*H" and "Barney Miller" are two that come to mind immediately (even "All In The Family" didn't get above 54th place in its first few weeks).

Another show to keep an eye on is "The Defenders." True, it bears no relation to the '60s series, except that the main characters are lawyers, and many of its potential viewers weren't even born when the E.G. Marshall/Robert Reed series was on. But while those of us who do remember the original may be tempted to make comparisons, the younger crowd can judge the new show strictly on its merits, and on those grounds, it just may have a chance, having finished 21st overall last week.
(However, tonight it goes against a highly-touted episode of "Law & Order: L.A." so we'll have to see what happens.)

 

[LKellerIII]

Indeed, and none of those started from being at the top of premiere week's heap--bigger drop from a lower starting point.

That aside, the pilot/fist episode is by no means the only chance to hook viewers. People come in to shows that have already started airing all the time.

And the history of television is chock-full of examples; "M*A*S*H" and "Barney Miller" are two that come to mind immediately (even "All In The Family" didn't get above 54th place in its first few weeks).

Another show to keep an eye on is "The Defenders." True, it bears no relation to the '60s series, except that the main characters are lawyers, and many of its potential viewers weren't even born when the E.G. Marshall/Robert Reed series was on. But while those of us who do remember the original may be tempted to make comparisons, the younger crowd can judge the new show strictly on its merits, and on those grounds, it just may have a chance, having finished 21st overall last week.
(However, tonight it goes against a highly-touted episode of "Law & Order: L.A." so we'll have to see what happens.)

I don't think The Defenders is a good analogy to Hawaii Five-0. H5-0 is in the same locale, and has main characters with the same names - so it begs some sort of comparison to the original. The only thing that's the same about The Defenders is the title. Otherwise, it's a different locale (Las Vegas instead of New York, totally different main characters, and a serious socially relevant drama that tackled social issues (the original) compared to a light hearted comedy-action-drama (new version).

Regarding LOLA - what to you mean "highly touted?" By whom? The reviews I've read indicate that its the same old re-cycled crime and prosecution procedurals without snow and with palm trees. Sooner or later, viewers will get tired of the same old thing. The L&O franchise may be past its sell-by-date.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Nice scenery (in Hawaii) but in my opinion there are just too many damn cop shows on TV.

We have everything from a smart-ass cop in Florida, to a former FBI agent investigating weird events in a small town in Maine.

Then we have the male/female teams that walk the fine line of falling for each other, but don't. IE: Bones, Castle, The Mentalist are just a few shows that come to mind.

I say bring back some good old westerns. Here is even a better idea. A show about a native american tribe trying to survive in the mid to late 1800s. That's never been tried before. ( And I don't mean Tonto, F Troop, or Ed Ames)

 

[gregg75]

I tend to agree. Don't we have enough COP, DETECTIVE, LAWYER, DOCTOR type shows already? Why not something NEW or done in a way that has not been done the same way many many times over?

 

[imhomerjay]

Because so long as there's an appetite among the general public for something, it's the networks' job--as businesspeople on a mission to try to maximize profits--to deliver it. Crime/medical dramas have been a staple of the TV for eons--it hardly began in the recent past.

 

[FreddyE1977]

I say bring back some good old westerns.

Perish the thought! I shudder to think what this crowd would end up doing to
The Rifleman or Gunsmoke.

 

[Nate Wesley]

I say bring back some good old westerns.

Perish the thought! I shudder to think what this crowd would end up doing to
The Rifleman or Gunsmoke.

The shooting costs for a modern day Western would seem to be much higher than it would have back in the day--mostly because of set building, location shooting, and perhaps most importantly--high definition recording. There's no way you could shoot a new series today like you did in the '50s-'70s.