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Hawaii Network Affiliates

The recent thread about Alaska (the 49th state) programming practices back in the 70's got me thinking about the 50th state.

I assume that until satellites were used to distrubute network feeds, Hawaiian stations had no live network hookup. There were cables that carried phone calls to and from the islands, but I doubt any of them had the capability or bandwidth to carry a TV signal.

So, what sort of delay system was used? I'm thinking stuff was flown from California (kinnies and, later, videotapes) and probably aired on a one-week delay to keep the same weekday/program scheduling. But what was done with live sporting events? Were they shown on delay as well? How about network newscasts?

And what happened when an unexpected network interruption, like a breaking news story, occurred? Would the interrupted show have been shipped to Hawaii as recorded off-air (doubt it, with the then "old" news bulletin included), or would they have taped it off-line and sent an intact episode?

Something tells me there were probably a LOT of last-minute program changes back then. :-\
 
Having just vacationed there over the years, I can only answer a couple of your questions. Up through much of the 90's, all of the soap operas were on a one week delay. In the 70's and early 80's, I remember watching the evening news the following morning (flown in from the West Coast???). Then, sometime in the late 70's, I recall a special Hawaii edition of the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and, then, the CBS Evening West Coast Edition with Dan Rather and Terry Drinkwater (RIP).I do remember that Hawaii seemed to have quite a bit of local news. In fact, they had am newscasts way before they became popular on the mainland.Hopefully, someone who lives there can give us more details...
 
I've always been interested in how network tv worked in Hawaii. I emailed the webmaster of te Hawaii Radio/TV page and here was his reply:"Hello Brian,Here is the quick and dirty answer to your questionregarding live TV satellite feeds to Hawaii.We never got them until 1966. I think the first thingthat was shown "live via satellite" was a collegefootball game during the 1966 season. Perhaps the NFLcame a short time later... but I do very vaguelyrecall college football.Our network evening news was flown in from the westcoast every night and did not air until 10:30 or 11that night. So like Walter Cronkite's CBS Evening Newswas shown in Hawaii at 11 or maybe even 12, since someof the news was already old by airtime and the station(KGMB TV) preferred to run wrestling or other latenight entertainment programs.Also the local 10:00 PM News would use the clips thatcame in from the evening news as national and worldnews items on the late local news. So like whenPresident Kennedy was shot, no one in Hawaii actuallygot to see anything until 10 that night (or I suspectas soon as the footage came in on a plane). I was only6 when JFK was shot.Shortly after those live satellite football games,sooner if not later it was economically feasible forour 3 local network stations to air sports on asatellite live basis, except for Monday Night Footballwhich was always delayed by the ABC affiliate forshowing in the prime time hour until the series endedon the network this past year. When ESPN picks that upthis fall it will air live... meaning 2PM in theafternoon... which is inconvenient for many workingpeople.Getting back to the 1960s... by the time Apollo 8circled the moon and the moon landing of Apollo 11,all of the feeds from the Apollo spacecraft to NASAand then to the networks were transmitted to Hawaiisatellite live. I remember watching the first steps onthe moon at around 4PM Hawaii time satellite live...in black and white! Apollo 8's moon orbit was alsoshown live.Still the stations found it more cost effective to flyin the news tapes by plane and show the evening newslate at night until 1974 or 75 when KGMB TV decided toair Walter Cronkite satellite delayed at 5:30 PMbefore the 6:pM local news. That proved popular andthe station from that time on recorded the news bysatellite for showing a few hours later the same dayrather than late in the night.Prime time entertainment programs were brought over byplane and shown a week later on local TV untilsometime in the late 70s or early 80s.. I can'tremember when. But I think that "Dallas" episode on"Who Shot J.R." was shown on the same day as it airedin the mainland. However due to the time differenceall of our local network prime time and in fact theentire network feed is time shifted by the localstations to play at the normal times one would expectthem to air if they were on the mainland. So you get"The Today Show" in the 7:AM hour just like themainland, but in reaility the thing is about 6 hoursold by the time it is aired.That can spell some incovenience for programs like"American Idol" which people can find out about whowon before the show actually airs in Hawaii! Ditto forall of the programs with cliffhangers and stuff...like "Lost"... if one really wants to know whathappened, all you have to do is go to a programmessage board or even the network TV site to find outwhat happened in the episode before it airs duringlocal prime time in Hawaii.Most cable TV shows are aired live using theirsatellite feeds, so that you'd get like the raunchyNC17 movies being shown on Showtime or HBO at 8 in theevening and missing the showcase movie premieres inprimtime because they aired at 2PM when most peopleare working or at school.The local cable company time shifts some of the cablenetwork programming so that family fare falls infamily hours and adult stuff airs late night.All of the cable network sports and news shows airlive, which is good as these programs are the mosttimely.It would not have been a good thing if something likenews coverage on 9-11 had been satellite delayed!"
 
What a great, detailed response -- I hope you profusely thanked him on behalf of the readers of this board!So, to sum up his lengthy response, it is as I suspected -- occasional satellite feeds used for sports and other special events early on, and full satellite distribution later on when there were enough birds and capacity to make it feasible from the standpoint of cost and logistics. I am surprised that they were getting occasional feeds as early as 1966 -- back then a satellite ground station would have been a major installation that few could afford. Of course, if I were able to live in Hawaii, I don't think I'd complain too much about when shows air -- living there, I don't think I'd be spending much time watching TV anyway. ;)
 
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