"HD DOA"

[Chuck]

These are two small market radio stations. They are hardly state of the art operations. You can't compare a 500 watt daytimer on 1410 or a local 1K on 1240 with the station that are currently just implimenting IBOC. I'll bet neither stations has a Telos Zephyr X-Stream or a Comrex Hotline or any of what is today considered standard broadcast equipment for a larger radio station. Here's some station info about KRML. Not exactly major market (remember major markets are where more people live) income. I'm sure it serves its nice community, but you don't base an industry decision on 2 small market facilities.

II guess you've never spent any time in Carmel or Monterrey. I sure have. In fact, I actually know some people who live there. If you visit, bring money. Bring lots of it. By design, there are not a ton of people who live in Carmel, but those who do enjoy one of the nicest places in the world. Monterrey, next door, is a decent size town. Pebble Beach Golf Course lies between the two. To say it is a “high rent” district would be a gross understatement. I assure you that there are "enough" people to support a lot of high end businesses and most of the people who live there are very affluent. Starting price for an entry level one bedroom shack in the area is well over a half million dollars. My friends purchased a two bedroom home for $2.5 million. That was ten years ago. Now it's worth about $10, million, maybe more. There are a lot of homes in the area that sell for many times that amount.

I'm sure that KRML is doing just fine. There AM stereo signal sounds excellent. The first time I heard it (it was in a restaurant) I thought they were FM. I doubt that they give a rats a** about Telos Zephyrs or Comrex Hotlines. Why would they? Just owning a lot of equipment doesn’t make a great station. It’s what you do with what you’ve got that counts. If what they are doing works well for them, I say more power to them.

 

[Chuck]

I had a nice conversation with owner Dave Kimball and he said that since going online a couple of years ago that they have been getting listeners from all across the country. I didn't ask him for a listener count but Dave is excited enough about the potential of webcasting that he is in the process of beefing up his servers to allow for more streams.

db

Although there may not be big numbers for Internet broadcasting as yet, it is a developing market. Even my little station in Chalk Hill, Texas gets its hare of people dropping by to see what is going on. Here is a partial list of the locations people have taken the time to email us from:

The Village of Henri-Chappelle, Belgium - Pasadena, Maryland - McKinnon, Tennessee - Kansas City, Missouri - Westerville, Ohio - El Paso, Texas Spartanburg, South Carolina - Macaeo, Rio De Janero, Brazil - Los Angeles, California - Threemilestone, Truro, Cornwall, UK - Yucca Valley, California Hopewell, Virginia - Boulder City, Nevada - Flint, Michigan - Alma, Georgia Waxahachie, Texas - Charlottesville, Virginia - Mumbai, India - Spring, Texas Troy, Ohio - Laval, Quebec, Canada - Alexandria, Louisiana - Oakridge, Oregon Valkeakoski, Finland - Los Angeles, CA - Anderson, Indiana - Plentywood, Montana - Canmore, Alberta, Canada - Jefferson, Texas - San Diego, CA - Beaumont, Texas - Wisbech Cambridgeshire, UK - Overschild, The Netherlands San Jacinto, CA - Vero Beach, Florida - Greenfield, Indiana - Lincoln, Nebraska Tatum, Texas - St. Albert, Alberta, Canada - Milan, Italy - Zagreb, Croatia Clinton Township, Michigan - Hayward California - Durango, Mexico Thermopolis, Wyoming - Macon, Georgia - Dublin, Ireland - Henderson, Kentucky Pensacola, Florida - Heppner, Oregon - Wellington, New Zealand -Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada - Lone Star, Texas - Tiel, Netherlands - Ardmore, Oklahoma - Castroville, Texas -San Marino, California - Campinas, Sao Paulo, Brazil - Norfolk, Virginia - Grand Prairie, Texas - Sacramento, California - Fairfax, Virginia - White Oak, Texas - Brisbane, Queensland, Australia - Shreveport, Louisiana - Marengo, Indiana - Whyalla, South Australia - Fort Ashby, West Virginia - San Rafael, California - Gettysburg, PA - Port Arthur, Texas - Tainan, Taiwan - Mt. Holly, North Carolina - Bloomfield, New York - York, South Carolina Tampa, Florida -Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania - Shreveport, Louisiana - Hogeye, Arkansas - San Diego, California - Adelaide, South Australia - Melbourne, Australia - Stratford, Connecticut - Madison, Mississippi - Crestview, Florida Birmingham, UK - Northridge, California - Canyon County, California - Mena, Arkansas - Sacramento, California - Kountze, Texas - Sao Paulo, Brazil - Arlington, Virginia - Silver Springs, Maryland - Lewisville, Texas - Dry Prong, Louisiana - Kantana, Ontario, Canada - Springfield, Illinois - Friendswood, Texas Wyong, New South Wales, Australia - Mentor, Ohio - Meridian, Mississippi Leidschendam, The Netherlands - Santa Ana, California - Rusk, Texas - Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada - Marion, Indiana - Jacksonville, Florida - Boqueron, Puerto Rico - Georgetown, Texas- Vero Beach, Florida - Exeter, New Hampshire - Sioux Falls, South Dakota - Ninilchik, Alaska - Stamford, Connecticut - Tauranga, New Zealand - Wilkes Barre, PA - Marshall, Texas - Berkshire, United Kingdom Houston, Texas - New Richmond, Wisconsin - Sherman, Texas - Yorkville, Illinois Eden Hills, South Australia - Alexandria, Virginia - Redditch, Worcestershire, UK Virginia Beach, Virginia - Sydney, Australia - Port Augusta, South Australia Southfield, Michigan - Plano, Texas - Johnson City, TN - Mesquite, Texas Moreno Valley, California - Topeka, Kansas - Newport, Oregon - Szekszard City, South Hungary - Boise, Idaho - Pittsburgh, PA - Slusovice, Czech Republic, Europe - Princeton, New Jersey - Walpole, MA - Evansville, Indiana - Bath, Maine Garland, Texas - Ft. Lauderdale, Florida - Woking, Surrey, England - Falun, Sweden - Greenville, SC - Tyler, Texas - Morrow, Georgia - St. Louis, MO Wichita Falls, Texas - Alpharetta, Georgia - Paradise, Florida - Indianapolis, Indiana - Cincinnati, Ohio - Arp, Texas - Lexington, Kentucky - Tulsa, Oklahoma Mainz, Germany - Chichester, West Sussex, England - Birmingham, Alabama Dallas, Texas - Cardiff, South Wales - Sisters, Oregon - Honolulu, Hawaii - Fort Worth, Texas - Minneapolis, Minnesota - Longview, Texas - Columbus, Ohio Kilgore, Texas - Olso, Norway - Atlanta Georgia - Carthage, Texas - Ore City, Texas - Budapest, Hungary - Houston, Texas - San Diego, California - Stockport UK - Lake Cherokee, Texas - Manchester, UK - Hallsville, Texas - Easton, Texas London, England (UK) - Cleveland, Texas - Orlando, Florida - Gladewater, Texas Verona, Italy - Tyler, Texas - Washington, DC - Arlington, Texas Baltimore, MD Mineral Wells, Texas - Rugby, UK - Collins, New York - Austin, Texas - Chalk Hill, Texas - Des Plains, Illinois - Chicago, Illinois - Providence, Rhode Island - Detroit, Michigan - Franklin, North Carolina - Livingston, Louisiana - WaKeeney, Kansas West Allis, Wisconsin - Wilmington, Massachusetts Weatherford, Texas - White Oak, Texas - Temple, Texas - Austin, Texas Wemberly, Texas - Des Plaines, IL Philadelphia, PA - Tatum, Texas - Overton, Texas - Framingham, Massachusetts Princeton, Texas - Efrat, Israel - Nampa, Idaho - Etten-Leur, Netherland - Princeton, Texas - Budapest, Hungary - Manhattan, Kansas -Jupiter, Florida -Rolling Hills Estates, California - St. Paul, Minnesota - Brea, California - Roswell, Georgia - St. Augustine, Florida - Columbus, Ohio - New Gloucester, Maine - Silver Spring, Maryland - Ponchatoula, Louisiana - Richmond, Virginia - Penang, Malaysia - Anderson, Indiana - Deltona, Florida - Santa Maria, California - Westerville, Ohio - Prague, Czech Republic - Nampa, Utah -Goat Hills, Czech Republic - Los Angeles, California - Galesburg, IL -Onalaska, Texas - Akron, Ohio - Squamish, B.C. Canada - Pasadena, California - St. Petersburg, Florida - Perrysburg, Ohio - Stamford, Connecticut - Greenville, South Carolina - Flushing, New York - Louisville, Kentucky - Carmel, Indiana - Deltona, Florida - Athens, Greece - Liawa, Poland - Spokane, Washington - Bonita Springs, Florida - London, Ontario, Canada - BP Gulf of Mexico Deepwater Oil Rig - Cincinnati, Ohio - Okinawa, Japan - Montgomery, Alabama - York, South Carolina - Hurricane, West Virginia - Warsaw, Poland - Brinkley, Arkansas - Victoria, British Columbia, Canada - Fircrest, Washington - Portland, Oregon, - Gladewater, Texas - Ponca City, Oklahoma - Modesto, California - St. Augustine, Florida - San Antonio, Texas - Cologne, Germany- Stansted, UK - Myrtle Beach South Carolina - Wilmington, North Carolina - London, Ontario, Kirkenes, Norway- Townsville, Queensland, Australia - Belvidere, Illinois - Eastleigh, Hampshire, UK - Sanford, Florida -Oostende, Belgium - Brenham, Texas- Los Banos, California - Framingham, Massachusetts - Bonita Springs, Florida - Cincinnati, Ohio - Columbus, Georgia - Bay Town, Texas - Las Vegas, Nevada -Lincoln, Nebraska - Lutz, Florida - Forrest Lake, Queensland, Australia - Massillon, Ohio- Taipei, Taiwan - Modesto, California - North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada - Downers Grove, Illinois - Austin, Texas - Nampa, Idaho - Sierra Vista, Arizona - Grand Blanc, Michigan - Stratford on Avon, England - Blackpool, Lancashire, UK - Mexico City, Mexico - New Hudson, Michigan - Robina, Gold Coast, Australia - Richmond, Virginia -Belton, Texas -Belvidere, Illinois - Charlestown, Indiana - Simi Valley, California - Sao Paulo, Brazil - Green Bay, Wisconsin - Little Rock, Arkansas - Clearfield, Pennsylvania - Jamison, Pennsylvania - Lemon Grove, California - Hart, Michigan - Bangor, Northern Ireland, UK - Memphis, Tennessee - Horn Lake Mississippi - Hibbing, Minnesota -"The Bog Apple" New York City, New York - Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania - White Plains, New York - Batesville, Arkansas -Penang, Malaysia - Merced, California - Hauppauge, New York - Colorado Springs, Colorado- Universal City, California - Casper, Wyoming - Virginia Beach, Virginia -Toronto, Ontario, Canada - Kenosha, Wisconsin - Iraq, exact location can't be disclosed, but he's one of our guys in the service - Richmond, Virginia - Orlando, Florida - Melbourne, Florida - Palm Coast, Florida - Durham, North Carolina - Staten Island, New York - Paradise, Florida - Temecula, California - Roanoke, Virginia -Fairfield, Iowa - Evansville, Indiana - Naples, Texas - Ausburg, Germany - Glen Allen, Virginia -Austin, Texas -York, South Carolina - Charlotte, North Carolina - Washington, DC - Wichita Kansas - Addison, Texas - Canton Texas - Los Alamos, New Mexico - Paso Robles, California - Kuala Lumpur, Maylasia - Miami, Florida - Lexington, Kentucky - Brooklyn, New York - Kingwood, Texas - Rome, Italy - Beaver Falls, Pensylvania - Ankeny, Iowa - Las Vegas, Nevada - Houston, Texas - Tyler, Texas

Those emails are not my imagination.

 

[radiopilot]

There are tens of thousands of internet radio stations. And the average number of simultaneous listeners for any one station is under TEN. Don't take my word for it, brouse Shoutcast http://www.shoutcast.com and pay particular attention to how many are LISTENING to the stations.

People probably "google" internet radio for the same reason I do...TO FIND STATIONS! There's no such reason to google HD Radio, because the statons are OVER THE AIR, not online. People search more often ONLINE for a service only offered ONLINE. HUGE surprise, thanks for that!

Mike,

You mentioned at any given time less than ten people are listening simultaneously at any given internet radio station, I'd have to disagree with you... Here is SkyFM and if you look at each webcast of the different music categories you can see how many is listening at each station and this is just SkyFM and there are thousands of these websites each getting anywhere between 100's - 10;s of thousands of listeners simultaneously!

http://www.sky.fm/

Enjoy....

Radiopilot

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

There are tens of thousands of internet radio stations. And the average number of simultaneous listeners for any one station is under TEN. Don't take my word for it, brouse Shoutcast http://www.shoutcast.com and pay particular attention to how many are LISTENING to the stations.

Mike,

You mentioned at any given time less than ten people are listening simultaneously at any given internet radio station, I'd have to disagree with you...

No, that isn't what he said. Try READING it. Note particularly the qualifying term "average."

 

[radiopilot]

These are two small market radio stations. They are hardly state of the art operations. You can't compare a 500 watt daytimer on 1410 or a local 1K on 1240 with the station that are currently just implimenting IBOC. I'll bet neither stations has a Telos Zephyr X-Stream or a Comrex Hotline or any of what is today considered standard broadcast equipment for a larger radio station. Here's some station info about KRML. Not exactly major market (remember major markets are where more people live) income. I'm sure it serves its nice community, but you don't base an industry decision on 2 small market facilities.

II guess you've never spent any time in Carmel or Monterrey. I sure have. In fact, I actually know some people who live there. If you visit, bring money. Bring lots of it. By design, there are not a ton of people who live in Carmel, but those who do enjoy one of the nicest places in the world. Monterrey, next door, is a decent size town. Pebble Beach Golf Course lies between the two. To say it is a “high rent” district would be a gross understatement. I assure you that there are "enough" people to support a lot of high end businesses and most of the people who live there are very affluent. Starting price for an entry level one bedroom shack in the area is well over a half million dollars. My friends purchased a two bedroom home for $2.5 million. That was ten years ago. Now it's worth about $10, million, maybe more. There are a lot of homes in the area that sell for many times that amount.

I'm sure that KRML is doing just fine. There AM stereo signal sounds excellent. The first time I heard it (it was in a restaurant) I thought they were FM. I doubt that they give a rats a** about Telos Zephyrs or Comrex Hotlines. Why would they? Just owning a lot of equipment doesn’t make a great station. It’s what you do with what you’ve got that counts. If what they are doing works well for them, I say more power to them.

Chuck...

You are so correct on the AM quality sound some stations can broadcast... I was driving from New Port Richey, FL. back to Savannah Friday and I happen to turn on the AM band and scan the channel, I was around Ocala when I happened to get 1030 WONQ... it's a Spanish station (Puerto Rican owned I believe?) Florida Broadcasters out of the Orlando area... anyway all they play is music with a nostalgic flare for tunes of the past (Spanish) and honestly they BLEW me away... the quality of this broadcast rivaled that of the FM dial... I don't know what processing they have but I riveted to this station until the coverage went fuzzy somewhere around Brunswick, GA.

I quickly looked them up and the offices are in Cassleberry, FL.

If I get a chance I will visit their studios for a looksie and meet the station owners and engineers and see their setup... unbelieveable since in this day and age they want to bring down the bandwidth to 5khz., that would be crazy!

California real estate including Seattle have gone off the charts, I lived in Palos Verdes back in 1970 with my sister for two years and it was expensive then, now you can't touch the real estate there like you say... Bring tons of cash!

Radiopilot

 

[Mike Walker]

I've got to thank "Dumber" for coming to my defense on this one. I didn't say that no internet stations have large audiences. That would just be a stupid statement. As for SkyFM and Chuck's Chalk Hill station, I AM AMONG YOUR LISTENERS. Good job! What I said was that MOST internet stations have hardly any listeners...AVERAGING ten or less. The most successful internet streams often originate from "real" over-the-air stations, simply because, shock and horror, BROADCASTERS FREQUENTLY KNOW MORE ABOUT BUILDING AN AUDIENCE than the guy down the block who's "shoutcasting" from his basement. And no, I don't mean that there's anything wrong with "shoutcasting" from your basement! God bless you! Put something interesting on, and I'LL LISTEN!

Because I support HD, many see malice in my words when I talk about internet and satellite radio...malice that DOES NOT EXIST! I subscribe to XM. I subscribe to "Urge", "Napster", "Rhapsody", and "Live 365 Premium". I love internet radio enough TO PAY FOR IT, and have subscribed to various internet services through the years. I listen mostly when I'm at my keyboard, or in my studio. But when I'm in my recliner, or listening in bed while I read a good mystery...I've got an HD station "in my cans". As I've said before, "let all flowers bloom". It's ALL good!

 

[PocketRadio]

I listen mostly when I'm at my keyboard, or in my studio. But when I'm in my recliner, or listening in bed while I read a good mystery...I've got an HD station "in my cans". As I've said before, "let all flowers bloom". It's ALL good!

“RW Opinion: Rethinking AM’s future”

“Making AM-HD work well as a long-term investment is seen as an expensive and risky challenge for most stations and their owners. There is the significant downside of potential new interference to some of their own AM analog listeners as well as listeners of adjacent-channel stations.”

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

It's all good ?

 

[Chuck]

I've got to thank "Dumber" for coming to my defense on this one. I didn't say that no internet stations have large audiences. That would just be a stupid statement. As for SkyFM and Chuck's Chalk Hill station, I AM AMONG YOUR LISTENERS. Good job! What I said was that MOST internet stations have hardly any listeners...AVERAGING ten or less. The most successful internet streams often originate from "real" over-the-air stations, simply because, shock and horror, BROADCASTERS FREQUENTLY KNOW MORE ABOUT BUILDING AN AUDIENCE than the guy down the block who's "shoutcasting" from his basement. And no, I don't mean that there's anything wrong with "shoutcasting" from your basement! God bless you! Put something interesting on, and I'LL LISTEN!

Because I support HD, many see malice in my words when I talk about internet and satellite radio...malice that DOES NOT EXIST! I subscribe to XM. I subscribe to "Urge", "Napster", "Rhapsody", and "Live 365 Premium". I love internet radio enough TO PAY FOR IT, and have subscribed to various internet services through the years. I listen mostly when I'm at my keyboard, or in my studio. But when I'm in my recliner, or listening in bed while I read a good mystery...I've got an HD station "in my cans". As I've said before, "let all flowers bloom". It's ALL good!

Oh, I didn’t take it in any negative way, and I hope you didn't interpret my post that way either. It is true that most Internet stations don't have a lot of listeners. There are plenty poking along with one or two, or even no listeners. Those zeros really have a way of making those averages go down.

Our station doesn't have that many Internet listeners. You certainly couldn’t make a living off of them. They are mostly found during week days when people listen at work. We've also had decent listenership during special local sporting events when friends and family of the teams are interested in tuning in. A normal week day for us is 35-40 listeners at any given time. The most I've ever seen at a single time was 75. They generally listen for 2 or 3 hours at a session, so that would mean around 100-120 people tune in every 8-9 hour work day. There is no way to tell if they are unique listeners, or someone coming back and logging on after their lunch break. At night, the numbers go down, but it is likely that on average maybe 200 people tune us in every day via the Internet. Perhaps it is a little more. It depends on how good you are at reading tea leaves.

For us, it certainly isn't big numbers, but some stations literally do have thousands tuned in. I doubt any of this is an imminent threat to terrestrial radio. Even so, for every person listening on the Internet, it is one less person listening off the air. As Mike points out, some of the better Internet stations are terrestrial stations as well, so for them, it is an added bonus.

None the less, If RIAA doesn't completely kill it, I believe Internet broadcasting has an increasing place in our lives. And that is good.

 

[Mike Walker]

By the way, Pocket...I have never said that AM HD was great. My "jury is still out", and will be UNTIL I HAVE SOME PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE WITH IT! Imagine that, waiting until I actually LISTEN WITH MY OWN EARS, IN MY OWN HOME to make up my mind!

 

[Mike Walker]

Quick guys, go check Google Trends for "socks". You'll probably conclude nobody wears them!

 

[PocketRadio]

Quick guys, go check Google Trends for "socks". You'll probably conclude nobody wears them!

Google Trends for, "hd radio", socks, pants, shirts, underwear:

http://tinyurl.com/2h85ry

HD Radio is still the loser ! I have to admit, between Google Trends and Statsahlioc, it's pretty cool to be able to keep tabs on HD Radio !

 

[clouseau]

http://tinyurl.com/2h85ry

HD Radio is still the loser ! I have to admit, between Google Trends and Statsahlioc, it's pretty cool to be able to keep tabs on HD Radio !

Look boys and girls...

The "Interest meter" of Pocket Radio shows HD radio more relevant than "Socks". Could it mean that Google trends means NOTHING????

I am SHOCKED.

Seriously, Pocket... You have told us for moths that THIS IS ALL WE NEED TO KNOW.

Do you wear Socks?

Do you have an HD RADIO?

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS???

Here's a hint. Feel free to leave out the irrelevant links. Your response should start out with the phrase...

"This is caused by..."

I'm asking everyone to wait for the answer and not post on this thread.

How about it Pocket? How could this happen? We're waiting...

Clouseau

 

[PocketRadio]

Yeah HD is completely dead. Except for the new stations. And new formats. And new radios. And better sound. And multimillion dollar publicity campaign.

And sex is pointless. Except for the fun. And benefit to the survival of the species. And the bonding between lovers, which solidifies love and the family unit. Besides that.

Google Trends for "HD Radio", "DAB radio", "digital radio", eureka-147, Sirius:

http://tinyurl.com/2bgo52

Sure looks like digital radio is the rave of the future - what a joke.

 

[R.F. Burns]

Yeah HD is completely dead. Except for the new stations. And new formats. And new radios. And better sound. And multimillion dollar publicity campaign.

And sex is pointless. Except for the fun. And benefit to the survival of the species. And the bonding between lovers, which solidifies love and the family unit. Besides that.

Google Trends for "HD Radio", "DAB radio", "digital radio", eureka-147, Sirius:

http://tinyurl.com/2bgo52

Sure looks like digital radio is the rave of the future - what a joke.

You keep posting links to internet sites which are really meaningless. If you really believed IBOC was dead or dying you wouldn't bother posting constantly trying to prove you point. Unless you are delusional, you must know that no matter what these opinion posts say, more stations convert to IBOC each week. It must have killed you when the commission OKed 24 hoour IBOC and officially sanctioned IBOC. They win at every turn and the detractors keep posting doom and gloom while they lose every decision.

 

[Mike Walker]

Exactly RF. If I believed HD was dead or dying, and I hated the technolgy, I would smile, pat myself on the back (believing as some delusional individuals here doubtless do that I had something to do with it), and go read a good book.

I understand Google trends looks pretty bleak for socks. Must not be anybody wearing them.

There is almost no correlation between what people search for on Google, and it's popularity or usefulness. Otherwise the wheel, neckties, toasters, nasal inhalers, and combs would doubtless score far higher than they do. I don't think there's any shortage of people using them! GEEZ! For somebody who's so anti-digital, the idea that everything in life can be measured by Google trends (I just posted five random things which can't) is pretty bizarre!

 

[Mike Walker]

LOL, thanks for pointing out that GOOGLE TRENDS SHOWS MORE INTEREST IN HD RADIO THAN SOCKS! As I write this, my wife and I are both wearing socks. Neither is wearing an HD radio. GOOGLE TRENDS MEASURES SEARCHES ON GOOGLE, nothing else. People don't search foe everyday items like radios and SOCKS, but they sure as hell USE THEM! Google trends means NOTHING. Even Google doesn't claim that they mean much! Only Pocket thinks the answers to all of life's questions are contained in their results. Then it's got to be true...more people use HD Radio than socks. A SURE SIGN OF VICTORY!

 

[PocketRadio]

LOL, thanks for pointing out that GOOGLE TRENDS SHOWS MORE INTEREST IN HD RADIO THAN SOCKS! As I write this, my wife and I are both wearing socks. Neither is wearing an HD radio. GOOGLE TRENDS MEASURES SEARCHES ON GOOGLE, nothing else. People don't search foe everyday items like radios and SOCKS, but they sure as hell USE THEM! Google trends means NOTHING. Even Google doesn't claim that they mean much! Only Pocket thinks the answers to all of life's questions are contained in their results. Then it's got to be true...more people use HD Radio than socks. A SURE SIGN OF VICTORY!

Google Trends for "hd radio", socks, pants, shirts, underwear:

http://tinyurl.com/2h85ry

HD Radio is the loser.

"Visualize Online Information Trends Over Time And Geographical Regions: Google Trends"

"Marketing professionals - Google Trends could satisfy the needs of marketers. BusinessOnline has to say: "This service is really useful for those working on AdWords and shows the latest market trends with simple comparisons" (adapted from Italian). Google Trends data-graphing is remarkable if you want to see how two different services or products are advancing and how interesting they sound to the global audience (i.e. iPod multimedia players Vs Creative Zen digital jukeboxes)."

http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/05/25/visualize_online_information_trends_over.htm

50% of Web users use Google to search for for all sorts of items, including HD Radio.

 

[Mike Walker]

"50 percent of web users" use Google to search for "all sorts of items". You seem to think that that is the same as saying that 50 percent (or any percentage) use Google to search for ALL items. A silly assumption.

I USE GOOGLE DAILY. And I've NEVER searched for socks, or underwear. And yet I've managed to wear both daily, my entire life. How can this possibly be?

 

[Mike Walker]

I just did Google Trends comparisons for HD Radio vs. Corn Flakes, Chevrolet Impalas, English Muffins, and Pepper Shakers. I invite you to do the same. You'll find "proof" as Pocket would have us believe that HD Radio is more "popular" than all of these items, when clearly in this world there are more Corn Flakes, Chevrolet Impalas, English Muffins, and Pepper Shakers than HD Radio. "Google Searches" means nothing in such comparisons, because most people NEVER SEARCH GOOGLE for ordinary household items like Pepper Shakers, English Muffins, Corn Flakes, and Radios.

 

[PocketRadio]

I just did Google Trends comparisons for HD Radio vs. Corn Flakes, Chevrolet Impalas, English Muffins, and Pepper Shakers. I invite you to do the same. You'll find "proof" as Pocket would have us believe that HD Radio is more "popular" than all of these items, when clearly in this world there are more Corn Flakes, Chevrolet Impalas, English Muffins, and Pepper Shakers than HD Radio. "Google Searches" means nothing in such comparisons, because most people NEVER SEARCH GOOGLE for ordinary household items like Pepper Shakers, English Muffins, Corn Flakes, and Radios.

HD Radio is new technology - how else are consumers supposed to find out about HD Radio, and determine the different types of available HD radios ? A much more relevant comparision, looking for different type of devices, would be for "hd radio", ipod, mp3, cell phone:

http://tinyurl.com/2vkoey

As usual, HD Radio is flat-lined.