"HD Explosion = Job Growth ?"

[PLL]

"HD Explosion = Job Growth ?"

http://precipice.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/hd-explosion-job-growth/

"You’d think that radio stations nationwide would be in the process of hiring individuals for programming and talent if it were on the road to improving itself with the gusto it claims, especially with the launch of HD Radio. But, glancing over the positions being advertised, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of supporting evidence that this is the case. Insiders know there will be NO hiring of additional staff to run these multicasts for the foreseeable future."

Looks like stations aren't really interested in HD Radio - maybe, they are being forced to convert to IBOC !

 

[IBOCRocks]

"HD Explosion = Job Growth ?"

http://precipice.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/hd-explosion-job-growth/

"You’d think that radio stations nationwide would be in the process of hiring individuals for programming and talent if it were on the road to improving itself with the gusto it claims, especially with the launch of HD Radio. But, glancing over the positions being advertised, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of supporting evidence that this is the case. Insiders know there will be NO hiring of additional staff to run these multicasts for the foreseeable future."

Looks like stations aren't really interested in HD Radio - maybe, they are being forced to convert to IBOC !

Back to quoting blogs, eh?

Here's another "have it both ways" argument from the anti-IBOC crowd:

iPods and streaming radio (commercial and announcer free) will kill HD.

(HD radio launches with commercial free music)

HD Radio will die due to lack of talent!

And another lie from SayNo (aside from the fact he changed his name)! "They are being forced to convert to IBOC". Even one of the staunchest anti-IBOC posters here says that isn't the case.

PLL: New name, same lies.

 

[PLL]

Will this year's fourth quarter spell the success or death of HD ...
27 Jun 2006

"I ran across an article by By Anthony Bruno the other day that suggested this year's fourth quarter sales could be the make or break for HD Radio. To quote Anthony, "To date, HD radio has been little more that a footnote on the digital ..."

This is very interesting - clicking on the URL below, attached to the above paragraph, puts one in the HD-Radio-Home.com page, but you get this message - "No Such URL at This Domain"

http://www.hd-radio-home.com/2006065w.html#e33

Looks like someone from the HD Radio Cartel didn't like the article, or was trying to hide something !

And their message, at the top of the page, "The Best Place on the Web to for Unbiased Information About HD Radio", speaks volumns of B.S. !

 

[IBOCRocks]

Will this year's fourth quarter spell the success or death of HD ...
27 Jun 2006

"I ran across an article by By Anthony Bruno the other day that suggested this year's fourth quarter sales could be the make or break for HD Radio. To quote Anthony, "To date, HD radio has been little more that a footnote on the digital ..."

This is very interesting - clicking on the URL below, attached to the above paragraph, puts one in the HD-Radio-Home.com page, but you get this message - "No Such URL at This Domain"

http://www.hd-radio-home.com/2006065w.html#e33

Looks like someone from the HD Radio Cartel didn't like the article, or was trying to hide something !

And their message, at the top of the page, "The Best Place on the Web to for Unbiased Information About HD Radio, speaks volumns of B.S. !

Yeah, I'm sure the "super-secret cartel hitmen" paid him a visit. :

Could it be something less nefarious (look it up in the dictionary)? Interesting how anything, no matter how minor, is a conspiracy. Can't you use your "CIA" skills to figure it out?

As for BS? You are the undisputed king!

PLL: New name, same lies.

 

[PLL]

HD Radio -- Too Little, Too Late

"I had been meaning to write about HD Radio for a while but Om Malik's article in B2.0 just reminded me to do so. As the title of this post suggests, my opinion on HD Radio can be summed up in 4 words: Too little, too late. I'm sure it will be able to carve out a niche for itself in radio value chain, but it will not be Radio's great savior."

"Radio is already fragmenting. Tens of millions listen to thousands of streaming internet radio stations, millions listen to hundreds of satellite radio stations, and hundreds of thousands access tens of thousands of podcasts. (I don't buy Pew's numbers, though they will be realized after Apple adds native support for podcasting into iTunes). Worse, as the article references, radio is losing relevance to the younger generations as they have many other media options."

"HD's issue is the cost and availability of receivers compounded by an utter lack of excitement or awareness with consumers. It will be a while before HD radio receivers will hit the price points necessary for mass adoption. iBiquity, the main company behind HD Radio in the States, plans on selling a measly 100 K HD Radios this year. By the time they're at a price point to sell, say, 10 Million units, the other technologies will have had another 1 to 3 generations of innovation on their products. The broadcasters will also need to spend a lot of airtime & money educating the market on the benefits of HD Radio. I believe HD is much more successful in the UK, but that is probably because the cost of the receivers is relatively low."

 

[IBOCRocks]

HD Radio -- Too Little, Too Late

"I had been meaning to write about HD Radio for a while but Om Malik's article in B2.0 just reminded me to do so. As the title of this post suggests, my opinion on HD Radio can be summed up in 4 words: Too little, too late. I'm sure it will be able to carve out a niche for itself in radio value chain, but it will not be Radio's great savior."

"Radio is already fragmenting. Tens of millions listen to thousands of streaming internet radio stations, millions listen to hundreds of satellite radio stations, and hundreds of thousands access tens of thousands of podcasts. (I don't buy Pew's numbers, though they will be realized after Apple adds native support for podcasting into iTunes). Worse, as the article references, radio is losing relevance to the younger generations as they have many other media options."

"HD's issue is the cost and availability of receivers compounded by an utter lack of excitement or awareness with consumers. It will be a while before HD radio receivers will hit the price points necessary for mass adoption. iBiquity, the main company behind HD Radio in the States, plans on selling a measly 100 K HD Radios this year. By the time they're at a price point to sell, say, 10 Million units, the other technologies will have had another 1 to 3 generations of innovation on their products. The broadcasters will also need to spend a lot of airtime & money educating the market on the benefits of HD Radio. I believe HD is much more successful in the UK, but that is probably because the cost of the receivers is relatively low."

Yet another opinion. One of many. Several are even pro-IBOC!

So, you plan on doing more Amazon statictics? You're responding to me, so it's only a matter of time!

PLL: New name, same lies.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

It seems there have been nothing but layoffs from the major broadcast groups (HD supporters) recently. It seems they are depending on the myths and hype of digital HD Radio to replace expensive talent.

 

[IBOCRocks]

It seems there have been nothing but layoffs from the major broadcast groups (HD supporters) recently. It seems they are depending on the myths and hype of digital HD Radio to replace expensive talent.

Really? Care to provide statistics, or is this a guess on your part?

 

[PLL]

Quoting IBOCRocks: "Really? Care to provide statistics, or is this a guess on your part?"

Media Layoffs
Six years of job cutback reports

Media companies are continuing to tighten their belts and, sadly, cut jobs. Many cutbacks are attributed to the slowing economy and advertising market, disappointing results at online units, restructurings in the aftermath of mergers, and business shutdowns (Remember APBNews.com? Talk magazine?)
This list of news reports of U.S. media layoffs, begun shortly after the start of the dot-com bust, has recorded nearly 72,000 job cuts since June 2000.

http://www.iwantmedia.com/layoffs.html

Oh, look !

Univision
259 Jobs Cut
The Spanish-language television network aims to help "improve financial performance."
Source: MarketWatch, "Univision Executive Says Job Cuts 'Difficult, But Necessary'," 11/02/05



And, IBOCRocks logged off, after he decided not to respond !

 

[davideduardo]

It seems there have been nothing but layoffs from the major broadcast groups (HD supporters) recently. It seems they are depending on the myths and hype of digital HD Radio to replace expensive talent.

Really? Care to provide statistics, or is this a guess on your part?

Of course, the stats were not about radio but, apparently, print media in one case and a TV network in the other. Radio employment is apparently up, as stations have realized that in tighter times for traditional media it is necessary to add on the sales side. In additon, the idea that consolidation reduces the needs for sales staff turned out wrong... as anyone who worked in a cluster prior to 1996 could have told them.

 

[PLL]

David wrote: "Of course, the stats were not about radio... Radio employment is apparently up"

Yea David, that is what the article says - you just can't be taken seriously anymore !

Here, I'll give you one example from the artlcle:

CBS Radio
115 Jobs Cut
CBS Radio is pink-slipping employees, in response to a "changing" business climate.
Source: Mediaweek, "CBS Radio Axes 115 Staffers," 07/12/06

You are really something !

Here are two more links - I hope that is enough !

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refer.../index.html?query=RADIO&field=des&match=exact

http://www.journalismjobs.com/layoffs.cfm

 

[IBOCRocks]

David wrote: "Of course, the stats were not about radio... Radio employment is apparently up"

Yea David, that is what the article says - you just can't be taken seriously anymore !

Here, I'll give you one example from the artlcle:

CBS Radio
115 Jobs Cut
CBS Radio is pink-slipping employees, in response to a "changing" business climate.
Source: Mediaweek, "CBS Radio Axes 115 Staffers," 07/12/06

You are really something !

Here are two more links - I hope that is enough !

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refer.../index.html?query=RADIO&field=des&match=exact

http://www.journalismjobs.com/layoffs.cfm

How about ClearChannel, Entercom, Cox, Cumulus, etc...

Yeah, that's what I thought!

Nice try!

PLL: New name, same lies.

 

[davideduardo]

CBS Radio
115 Jobs Cut
CBS Radio is pink-slipping employees, in response to a "changing" business climate.
Source: Mediaweek, "CBS Radio Axes 115 Staffers," 07/12/06

Do you think the changes at CBS after Stern left might have ahd something to do with this? I'll bet Sirius hired more than 115 people to handle the Stern show and the new subscribers, etc.

In every industry, those who do not do as well may cut back, and those doing better hire. Sears is not hiring. Kohls is.

By taking specific cases, you ignore the fact that others are hiring. Maybe not 115 at a time, but they are growing.

[/quote]You are really something ! [/quote]

No, you are looking, as we say in Spanish, "for the 5th leg on the cat."

Here are two more links - I hope that is enough !

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refer.../index.html?query=RADIO&field=des&match=exact

http://www.journalismjobs.com/layoffs.cfm

Gee, both of these seem to be about newspapers. Most radio stations do not have printing presses, although I can get you a neat deal on a used Goss if you want to start one. Bulletin: the printed newspaper business sucks, and there are lots of cutbacks.

Overall, per NAB, radio employment is up and has not had a down year since 2001.

 

[IBOCRocks]

What's funny is that SayNoToIBOC PLL posted the Univision thing over on rec.radio.shortwave like it was the smoking gun.

Someday, he'll realize how much of a fool he's making of himself.

PLL: New name, same lies

 

[PLL]

IBORocks: "How about ClearChannel, Entercom, Cox, Cumulus, etc..."

Try reading thoroughly through all three links - there are a bunch of radio station layoffs.

 

[IBOCRocks]

IBORocks: "How about ClearChannel, Entercom, Cox, Cumulus, etc..."

Try reading thoroughly through all three links - there are a bunch of radio station layoffs.

All very small. The XM layoffs have them beat!

PLL: New name, same lies

 

[davideduardo]

IBORocks: "How about ClearChannel, Entercom, Cox, Cumulus, etc..."

Try reading thoroughly through all three links - there are a bunch of radio station layoffs.

A group reduction makes headlines. Individual hires do not. Radio employment is up.

 

[PLL]

David wrote: "A group reduction makes headlines. Individual hires do not. Radio employment is up"

Accordng to these articles, radio employment is NOT up and there have been many layoffs ! Yes, just like Univision with 259 layoffs - you should personally know about that !

"Job Losses Associated with Radio Consolidation Undermine Localism and Diversity"

http://www.futureofmusic.org/news/PRemploymenteffects06.cfm

"Consolidation has resulted in 10,000 layoffs"

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=4014319666234&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE6

"CBS Radio sheds staffers in cost-cutting move"

http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...3Z_01_N13341995_RTRIDST_0_INDUSTRY-CBS-DC.XML

"Going Backwards"

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=4042367734394&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE8

"The survey of 50 randomly sampled radio news directors, reporters and assignment editors in the top-50 markets found that nearly three out of four radio stations and networks had experienced layoffs or consolidations in the past year. When asked how stations have handled having fewer reporters, 77 percent of respondents said the remaining reporters have had to take on extra work."

"(12/14/2001) Radio Cash Flow Actually Increased in 2001 Says Jim Duncan. The Bad News? It Was a Result of Layoffs and Salary Cuts"

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=69335&pt=archive

"NEWSROOM STAFFING STUDY FINDS 72% OF STATIONS OR NETWORKS EXPERIENCING LAYOFFS IN THE LAST YEAR"

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=4014491458425&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE4

 

[IBOCRocks]

David wrote: "A group reduction makes headlines. Individual hires do not. Radio employment is up"

Accordng to these articles, radio employment is NOT up and there have been many layoffs ! Yes, just like Univision with 259 layoffs - you should personally know about that !

"Job Losses Associated with Radio Consolidation Undermine Localism and Diversity"

http://www.futureofmusic.org/news/PRemploymenteffects06.cfm

"Consolidation has resulted in 10,000 layoffs"

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=4014319666234&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE6

"CBS Radio sheds staffers in cost-cutting move"

http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...3Z_01_N13341995_RTRIDST_0_INDUSTRY-CBS-DC.XML

"Going Backwards"

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=4042367734394&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE8

"The survey of 50 randomly sampled radio news directors, reporters and assignment editors in the top-50 markets found that nearly three out of four radio stations and networks had experienced layoffs or consolidations in the past year. When asked how stations have handled having fewer reporters, 77 percent of respondents said the remaining reporters have had to take on extra work."

"(12/14/2001) Radio Cash Flow Actually Increased in 2001 Says Jim Duncan. The Bad News? It Was a Result of Layoffs and Salary Cuts"

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=69335&pt=archive

"NEWSROOM STAFFING STUDY FINDS 72% OF STATIONS OR NETWORKS EXPERIENCING LAYOFFS IN THE LAST YEAR"

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=4014491458425&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE4

Another repeat

PLL: New name, same lies

 

[davideduardo]

David wrote: "A group reduction makes headlines. Individual hires do not. Radio employment is up"

Accordng to these articles, radio employment is NOT up and there have been many layoffs ! Yes, just like Univision with 259 layoffs - you should personally know about that !

Univision's layoffs were at TV, and had to do, mostly, with closing a production facility when a particuar show ended its run. That happens in TV all the time. I live within 2 or 3 miles of Disney, Universal, and a couple of indies. Many of my neighbors are in the biz. The one common thing is that new shows usually don't make it, and ones that do don't last more than 5 to 7 seasons on the average, and then everyone is let go. In TV networks and tv show production, there are lots of changes.

And none of this has to do with radio.

"Job Losses Associated with Radio Consolidation Undermine Localism and Diversity"

http://www.futureofmusic.org/news/PRemploymenteffects06.cfm

"Consolidation has resulted in 10,000 layoffs"

None of this is evident to me. Our radio station group has several hundrd more employees than it did just 5 years ago, and I see stations adding in sales all the time. NAB and the R&R survey do not indicate net job loss.

"CBS Radio sheds staffers in cost-cutting move"

If you had lost Howard Stern, you would have cut staff too. Some go down, others go up. There is no case to be made here.

"The survey of 50 randomly sampled radio news directors, reporters and assignment editors in the top-50 markets found that nearly three out of four radio stations and networks had experienced layoffs or consolidations in the past year. When asked how stations have handled having fewer reporters, 77 percent of respondents said the remaining reporters have had to take on extra work."

The biggest change is that many stations started getting all news and traffic from outside providers, like Metro. Same jobs, different employe. Just like not having an employee who is janitor but, instead, hiring a janatorial service. Same number of jobs, different paychecks.

"(12/14/2001) Radio Cash Flow Actually Increased in 2001 Says Jim Duncan. The Bad News? It Was a Result of Layoffs and Salary Cuts"

What a horrible comparison. In early 2001 we had a market crash, and then we had 9/11. This was the worst year in memory for radio.

"NEWSROOM STAFFING STUDY FINDS 72% OF STATIONS OR NETWORKS EXPERIENCING LAYOFFS IN THE LAST YEAR"

As stated, we moved those jobs to subcontractors. The jobs did not disappear, they just moved.

This is a case you can not make.