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HD Radio is DOA (Dead On Arrival)

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SayNoToIBOC

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"HD Radio is DOA (Dead On Arrival)"

http://worldsupercaster.blogspot.com/

"HD RADIO-A FLAMING BURNOUT! "HD RADIO IS A DOG!"

To quote: "Here's the word from KMXE's chief engineer as he told me personally. Some HD equipment had fried awhile back - not very different from your KTNQ's HD equipment that also fried. After a forced return to analog while they awaited a new unit, the new owners (also the owners of the Los Angeles Angels) agreed with their CE's advice and have decided to keep KMXE analog-only for the forseeable future. They have increased the audio bandwidth well beyond HD's 5khz. They are very pleased with the results since they dumped HD. The decision had NOTHING to do with HD suitability. Their CE says HD is a big disappointment and also causes way too much adjacent channel noise. He says HD Radio is not even close to what had always been promised! ---------------------------A technology has to be pretty awful for a station to first spend the kind of money they must do to go HD, then to feel happy about dropping it! Every "off-the-record" conversation I've had with radio engineers in Los Angeles, the verdict is unanimous so far. HD Radio is a dog!"


HD Radio-SEND IT BACK!-WASHINGTON POST REVIEWER

To quote: "Last week, I packed up the Boston Acoustics Recepter Radio HD, the subject of my review in late April, and shipped it back to the company. " "Digital FM just doesn't sound that much better than analog. Digital AM does, but it's too hard to find and is still limited to daylight hours. "

HERE IS THE REST OF THE STORY:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/email/2005/03/30/EM2005033001399.html


HD Radio-RIAA Lawsuits coming?

LOS ANGELES, May 16 (Reuters) - The recording industry on Tuesday sued XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. , alleging its Inno device that can store music infringes on copyrights and transforms a passive radio experience into the equivalent of a digital download service like iTunes. A spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America, comprising major labels such as Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group , Warner Music Group Corp. , EMI Group Plc and Sony BMG, said the suit was filed on Tuesday in New York federal court. The suit accuses XM Satellite of "massive wholesale infringement," and seeks $150,000 in damages for every song copied by XM customers using the devices, which went on sale earlier this month. XM, with more than 6.5 million subscribers, said it plays 160,000 different songs every month.

HERE IS THE REST OF THE STORY:

http://yahoo.reuters.com/misc/Print...78_2006-05-17_00-10-03_N16129937&special=true


HD RADIO PROMOTION-JUST PUTTING MORE LIPSTICK ON THE PIG

Advertising expert David Ogilvy once asked, "Can advertising foist an inferior product on the consumer?" "Bitter experience has taught me that it cannot."

To quote: "On those rare occasions when I have advertised products which consumer tests have found inferior to other products in the same field, the results have been disastrous. "William Bernbach echoed Ogilvy's statement. "Advertising doesn't create a product advantage. It can only convey it. "But it was Professor Charles Sandage who turned Ogilvy's complaint into a manifesto: "Advertising is criticized on the ground that it can manipulate consumers to follow the will of the advertiser. The weight of evidence denies this ability. Instead, evidence supports the position that advertising, to be successful, must understand or anticipate basic human needs and wants, and interpret available goods and services in terms of their want-satisfying abilities. This is the very opposite of manipulation."

Here is the link to the rest of the story:

http://www.wizardacademy.com/showmemo.asp?id=249


Digital HD Radio-More interference and aggrivation then value.

To quote: "Building penetration tended to be poor, especially at distances greater than 20 miles from the radio station’s antenna. My initial burst of enthusiasm had quickly tempered to confusion. Could I be doing something wrong? How could I not pick up these stations? After all, I live about 16 miles as the crow flies from the Empire State Building . Technical Difficulties. I went to the Ibiquity Web site to find that there were at least 13 stations broadcasting in HD in New York . One by one I tried to tune them in, and one by one I was met with frustration. Constant fiddling with the antenna yielded part-time successes. I managed to get Z100’s second channel for about three seconds, then three seconds of dead air, then on, then off. This gave new meaning to the term picket-fencing. Digital is unforgiving. It’s either on or it’s off. I took the radio upstairs to the bedroom. This time I had some success. WPLJ, WNEW, WAXQ, and several others sounded beautiful in HD. But mind you, every time I changed the channel, I’d need to go fiddle and reposition the antenna. Sometimes, as the digital signal faded in and out, a phasing sound would occur. On the AM side, continuous play with the antenna yielded a promising digital WNYC AM, but WOR’s digital signal amounted to a great big hum. The hotly advertised second channels were still mostly nowhere to be found. Intermittent signals were achieved for WNYC, WAXQ, and WLTW. Twice the radio froze up altogether and I had to unplug it to “reboot” it. After considerable tinkering, I was finally able to listen to Z100’s new music channel at length. And the 32 kbps stream had plenty of kick and dynamic range. But clearly, something was wrong. This whole thing was just not working as advertised. Terrestrial radio might be hyping a technology that isn’t quite ready for prime time. If broadcasters are attempting an apples-to-apples comparison with satellite radio, right now they’ll lose.''

HERE IS THE LINK TO THE FULL STORY:

http://www.fmqb.com//article.asp?id=184531
 
Oh my God!!! Here's a clip from one of those "news sources" you are quoting:

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WEBSITE HIJACKED, PSYCHO-TERRORISTS THWARTED
An open website and forum was hijacked by a conspiracy of pro-HD Radio psycho-terrorists, making threats and blocking access to the (formerly) open forum to those who pointed out HD radio's shortcomings and increasing unnecessary interference to analog broadcasting (and others with valid information and opinions). Some of the hijackers are employees of companies that are members or supporters of the HD Radio consortium (cartel) and were preventing the public from getting accurate information about HD Radio's defects, and about the cartel that is creating unnecessary destructive interference to AM and FM broadcast reception on the public's airwaves (and 1 billion radios).
A court order was issued and control of the website to the rightful owners was re-established.
Here is a link to the website that was hijacked:
http://www.radio-info.com/

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Now that was an all-out lie. There wasn't even a kernel of truth in that post.

These are the types of sites you're taking us to to prove your side?

You guys are a joke.
 
"This time I had some success. WPLJ, WNEW, WAXQ, and several others sounded beautiful in HD. But mind you, every time I changed the channel, I’d need to go fiddle and reposition the antenna."

Fascinating, by the way for you out of towners, they all broadcast from the same master antenna so I am confused as to why the antenna needed to be repositioned.


"The recording industry on Tuesday sued XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. , alleging its Inno device that can store music infringes on copyrights and transforms a passive radio experience into the equivalent of a digital download service like iTunes. A spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America, comprising major labels such as Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group , Warner Music Group Corp. , EMI Group Plc and Sony BMG, said the suit was filed on Tuesday in New York federal court. The suit accuses XM Satellite of "massive wholesale infringement," and seeks $150,000 in damages for every song copied by XM customers using the devices, which went on sale earlier this month. XM, with more than 6.5 million subscribers, said it plays 160,000 different songs every month"


Scratches head and wonders, what does this have to do with HD. The recording industry has supplied radio stations with free promo copies for years and HD radio isn't like the satellites in that there are no download services to store audio in the HD system. If anyone comes up with a method it's the manufacturers who would be culpable. Another poor, off topic argument.


"To quote: "Last week, I packed up the Boston Acoustics Recepter Radio HD, the subject of my review in late April, and shipped it back to the company. " "Digital FM just doesn't sound that much better than analog. Digital AM does, but it's too hard to find and is still limited to daylight hours. "


No honest person would make such a comment. I have the radio and we have 4 AM HD's running at the moment and they all sound much better then their analogue equivalent.


"On the AM side, continuous play with the antenna yielded a promising digital WNYC AM, but WOR’s digital signal amounted to a great big hum."

Huh? This is just plain stupid. I posted a sample of WOR's IBOC months ago. Hum? Just plain stupid!

"The hotly advertised second channels were still mostly nowhere to be found. Intermittent signals were achieved for WNYC, WAXQ, and WLTW."

More junk. When was this written, 1998? In NYC we have plenty of 24/7 second channel material and a few 3rd channel streams as well. I live here, I know. This is asinine.


"Twice the radio froze up altogether and I had to unplug it to “reboot” it. After considerable tinkering, I was finally able to listen to Z100’s new music channel at length. And the 32 kbps stream had plenty of kick and dynamic range. But clearly, something was wrong. This whole thing was just not working as advertised. Terrestrial radio might be hyping a technology that isn’t quite ready for prime time. If broadcasters are attempting an apples-to-apples comparison with satellite radio, right now they’ll lose.''

More stupidity. I own the radio live in a suburb of NY and have had none of these problems. I've posted audio demos to back up my claims. Don't post this junk because there's no truth to any of it. I mean, if you don't like IBOC because you want to play with your radio and DX say so, but this stuff is just plain wrong. By the way, when I woke up this morning the sky was the color of pink lemonade and the grass was white. Hey if they can stretch the truth and pull things out of their bottoms, so can I.
 
"Get Local News on Your Motorola Cell Phone with iRadio"

Published by Heather McLaughlin August 16th, 2006 in Motorola, Mobile Content.

"Motorola has just announced the addition of Taldia to provide local, regional, and national news through their IRadio service. Taldia aggregates information using local newspapers and the Associated Press to deliver news about business, health, sports, entertainment, technology, and international news. This benefits the consumer, because he’ll have access to current news using his Motorola handset instead of having to sit down and watch television."

“Over the years, terrestrial radio has lost much of its local connection and character as the radio industry has consolidated,” said Dave Ulmer, senior director of marketing, Motorola Digital Media Services. “Motorola iRadio is bringing back local content and making it accessible whenever and wherever you want it, directly from the one device you are never without – your mobile phone.”

“We are excited to bring our client Newspapers and AP content to Motorola iRadio listeners who want their news up-to-date and on-the-go,” said Rys Fairbrother, Taldia founder and president. “This agreement will provide added value for our clients with additional distribution and to iRadio subscribers, who treasure their news as much as their music, and will help iRadio extend the reach of print news into the growing realm of personalized digital audio content.”

"This digital music service is highly portable. You can use it to stream audio through your car speakers and your home stereo. iRadio currently offers 600 channels of content, including music, news, language courses, and self-help programs just to name a few."
 
Fascinating, by the way for you out of towners, they all broadcast from the same master antenna so I am confused as to why the antenna needed to be repositioned.Ummm, you fail to mention the that rotation of the cpol is opposite in some instances...
 
AUTOPAINT-1 WROTE: More stupidity. I own the radio live in a suburb of NY and have had none of these problems. I've posted audio demos to back up my claims. Don't post this junk because there's no truth to any of it. I mean, if you don't like IBOC because you want to play with your radio and DX say so, but this stuff is just plain wrong. By the way, when I woke up this morning the sky was the color of pink lemonade and the grass was white. Hey if they can stretch the truth and pull things out of their bottoms, so can I.

Autopaint, I just bought a JVC car radio for $199 and don't have any of those problems either. I'm happy I didn't take stock in some of the idiotic statements made here.
 
audiophile. said:
Fascinating, by the way for you out of towners, they all broadcast from the same master antenna so I am confused as to why the antenna needed to be repositioned.Ummm, you fail to mention the that rotation of the cpol is opposite in some instances...

all nyc fms on the empire sb transmit right-clockwise circular pole.
 
I can not vouch for the report, but there is still lot variables due reflections and differences in wavelength.

You guys should know this: when a FM DA is proofed you have to take account for the frequency even if the tower section and the mounting stays the same.

Also, the writer was not clear that if those were the specific stations that required "fiddling".
 
Let me clarify things a bit......My first HD-radio was DOA, as in defective.

I got it replaced and now I'm very happy ;D
 
SaynotoIBOC, you have been reported to management for masquerading as, SayNoToIBOC.
 
Not like him at all. You haven't linked enough opinion pieces
 
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