"HD Radio -- It's The Programming, Stupid!"

[PocketRadio]

"HD Radio -- It's The Programming, Stupid!"

"You've seen me write about my lack of enthusiasm for HD radio (misnamed 'High Definition' radio which is neither high definition nor the best radio has to offer)... Listen around (if you have an HD radio). Name the compelling programming. In fact, listen to terrestrial radio and name the compelling programming."

"Of course, the cycle as frequently pointed out with 'HD' Radio is no listeners/receivers - no programming. There's no programming (automated WAV or MP3 files mixed with PSAs isn't "programming", it's filler) because as Jerry points out, there's nobody listening (and the companies cannot justify to Wall Street sinking money into something no one will hear). There are no radios and nobody's listening because there's no programming... The time-filling crap heard (or, not heard) on 99% of America's 'HD' Radio channels is proof of this. Recently, a few of Philadelphia's 'HD-2' channels were completely off the air for well over a week. Nobody, not even the radio message board geeks noticed."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/05/hd-radio-its-programming-stupid.html

Here's the compelling programming, Jerry - Joke Joke, Vinyl Vineyard, Hip Hop, Old School Hip Hop, Comedy, Gospel, Young/Hip/Chill, KiWi Radio, Endless Love, Mother Trucker, The Buzzard Basement, Kiss 2 Funk, Xtreme Hip Hop, Groove, Indepedent Underground (Undies), Fuzic, Beat Street, Hallelujah, Phusion Dance.

 

[PocketRadio]

"NEW UNSIGNED ACTS ADDED ON 'UNDISCOVERED' HD RADIO STATION"

"Here's a list of unsigned acts recently added into rotation on Clear Channel's 'Undiscovered' HD Radio station: (intheclear), 2nd Half, Animal Alpha, Annie Minogue Band, Barcelona, Buddy, Chandelle, Chapter 11, Choir Boy, Cinjun Tate, Darrell Scott, Deccatree, Elizabeth and the Catapult, The Hampdens, The Hedrons, Hensley, Jake Dynnis, Jim Bianco, Joe Purdy, John James Newman, Linda Strawberry, Lukewarm Freeda, Mother Superior, Shannon Eileen, The Swear, Upside, Verra Cruz, World Without Sundays..."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-unsigned-acts-added-on-undiscovered.html

Oh, I forgot to include the undiscovered talent - HD Radio, your next American Idol !

 

[dbdigital]

"NEW UNSIGNED ACTS ADDED ON 'UNDISCOVERED' HD RADIO STATION"

"Here's a list of unsigned acts recently added into rotation on Clear Channel's 'Undiscovered' HD Radio station: (intheclear), 2nd Half, Animal Alpha, Annie Minogue Band, Barcelona, Buddy, Chandelle, Chapter 11, Choir Boy, Cinjun Tate, Darrell Scott, Deccatree, Elizabeth and the Catapult, The Hampdens, The Hedrons, Hensley, Jake Dynnis, Jim Bianco, Joe Purdy, John James Newman, Linda Strawberry, Lukewarm Freeda, Mother Superior, Shannon Eileen, The Swear, Upside, Verra Cruz, World Without Sundays..."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-unsigned-acts-added-on-undiscovered.html

Oh, I forgot to include the undiscovered talent - HD Radio, your next American Idol !

This is similar to what is happening with DTV. The extra video streams have, so far, yielded little in the way of compelling programming. Most of it is just filler. This will no doubt change in time. But I get the impression that programmers, both in radio and television, really don't know what to do with these extra streams.

Of course, I suppose new artists should be glad that their music is getting heard on terrestrial radio. But then, the stations have no choice. As part of the payola settlement, terrestrial stations (or at least the media conglomerates who were implicated in the scandal) are mandated to devote some air time to independent labels and artists.

Unfortunately, with so few people owning HD Radios these new artists still remain unheard.

db

 

[davideduardo]

Of course, I suppose new artists should be glad that their music is getting heard on terrestrial radio. But then, the stations have no choice. As part of the payola settlement, terrestrial stations (or at least the media conglomerates who were implicated in the scandal) are mandated to devote some air time to independent labels and artists.

The settlement only affected four or five companies, and a small percentage of US radio stations. And the agreement was for about a half-hour a week for a finite period of time.

 

[clouseau]

"NEW UNSIGNED ACTS ADDED ON 'UNDISCOVERED' HD RADIO STATION"

"Here's a list of unsigned acts recently added into rotation on Clear Channel's 'Undiscovered' HD Radio station: (intheclear), 2nd Half, Animal Alpha, Annie Minogue Band, Barcelona, Buddy, Chandelle, Chapter 11, Choir Boy, Cinjun Tate, Darrell Scott, Deccatree, Elizabeth and the Catapult, The Hampdens, The Hedrons, Hensley, Jake Dynnis, Jim Bianco, Joe Purdy, John James Newman, Linda Strawberry, Lukewarm Freeda, Mother Superior, Shannon Eileen, The Swear, Upside, Verra Cruz, World Without Sundays..."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-unsigned-acts-added-on-undiscovered.html

Oh, I forgot to include the undiscovered talent - HD Radio, your next American Idol !

Got it.

HD sucks because it plays the same old same old.

No wait..

HD sucks because it plays new stuff I never heard.

No wait

HD sucks because it's not commercially viable...

No wait

HD sucks because some day it will have commercials...

I think we got your view...

Oh, I forgot to include the undiscovered talent - HD Radio, your next American Idol !

If you knew ANYTHING about radio, you would know that almost ANYTHING people like to listen to was introduced on the radio. Actually, I'll bet you know that already....

Clouseau

Is this code for "You just read a whacked out post?"

 

[dbdigital]

I thought this quote by writer Ben Fong-Torres really sums up the troubled state radio finds itself:

"Young listeners are leaving because of technological alternatives, competing forms of entertainment -- from digital music players to video games, limited music playlists and unbearable blocs of commercials. And older listeners -- radio's most loyal -- are giving up as broadcasters ditch their favorite formats in their search for younger ears."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...en+fong+torres+Ben+Fong+Torres&sn=001&sc=1000

HD-Radio, the technology that is, isn't going to stop this trend.

db

 

[clouseau]

I thought this quote by writer Ben Fong-Torres really sums up the troubled state radio finds itself:

"Young listeners are leaving because of technological alternatives, competing forms of entertainment -- from digital music players to video games, limited music playlists and unbearable blocs of commercials. And older listeners -- radio's most loyal -- are giving up as broadcasters ditch their favorite formats in their search for younger ears."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...en+fong+torres+Ben+Fong+Torres&sn=001&sc=1000

HD-Radio, the technology that is, isn't going to stop this trend.

db

I agree, but it's apples and oranges. HD isn't supposed to fix programming. It'll add choices which COULD fix programming. But it also might NOT fix programming. ALso remember that if it really was that far broken, radio would not be used as much as it is.

Clouseau

 

[dbdigital]

I thought this quote by writer Ben Fong-Torres really sums up the troubled state radio finds itself:

"Young listeners are leaving because of technological alternatives, competing forms of entertainment -- from digital music players to video games, limited music playlists and unbearable blocs of commercials. And older listeners -- radio's most loyal -- are giving up as broadcasters ditch their favorite formats in their search for younger ears."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...en+fong+torres+Ben+Fong+Torres&sn=001&sc=1000

HD-Radio, the technology that is, isn't going to stop this trend.

db

I agree, but it's apples and oranges. HD isn't supposed to fix programming. It'll add choices which COULD fix programming. But it also might NOT fix programming. ALso remember that if it really was that far broken, radio would not be used as much as it is.

Clouseau

I just happened to like this quote. I added the HD-R reference to make it relevant to the forum.

But if older listeners are the ones most loyal to radio they are also the group least likely to buy HD-R (or for that matter a web radio device or satellite radio along with its monthly subscription fee). To them analog radio is just fine. Most don't care that their radios are not digital and, as a group, are probably the most used to blocks of commercials.

So taking older listeners out of the programming equation, as some here have suggested, would be a mistake. Rather than sweat trying to compete with web or sat radio on a technological (read, "digital") level, terrestrial broadcasters (while not ignoring younger audiences) should focus on serving those who are the most loyal to radio on devices they already own. And advertisers might be better off creating and buying radio spots with an older age group in mind.

db

 

[PocketRadio]

Got it.

HD sucks because it plays the same old same old.

No wait..

HD sucks because it plays new stuff I never heard.

No wait

HD sucks because it's not commercially viable...

No wait

HD sucks because some day it will have commercials...

I think we got your view...

If you knew ANYTHING about radio, you would know that almost ANYTHING people like to listen to was introduced on the radio. Actually, I'll bet you know that already....

Clouseau

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I couldn't have said it better myself, thanks !

 

[Tom Wells]

[EDIT]


[EDIT-inflammatory & profanity]

It seems D' Alliance has appointed a person to provide "balance" to Pocketradio's input.
Or they have self-appointed themselves.

It is too bad this person is not addressing real issues but behaving childishly.

Mr Bandito, I recognize your opinion. It is not helpful to your cause to act boorishly.
I find your dimissive position annoying, and it only hurts HD's image, which is tarnished enough.

If any aspect of this issue is retarded, it is the failure of ibiquity engineering to grasp that there is not sufficient resolution/bandwidth
to do this on AM-MW. Scores of well-informed people also believe the AM iBOC is a travesty.

Oh, and the programming? Last night, when I couldn't listen to WSM without major hissing, what was WSCR airing?
A White Sox game in beautiful HD delay.
Please explain again why should any one station be allowed to curtail my choice to listen to its neighbor.
I can only suggest it is like having a new channel on cable TV which ruins 2 channels above or below.
It is tresspass, pure and simple.

ibiquity is not flouting the law, they duped office people over an aspect of engineering, got the law changed to pemit RF tresspass,
and now FLAUNT the law, as a thug flaunts a shiny new revolver.

They're proud of the fact their system is ruining reception for millions, because they got it by the FCC, who is no longer sharp enough
in matters of AM to understand what exactly they approved.

 

[fritobandito]

It seems D' Alliance has appointed a person to provide "balance" to Pocketradio's input.

I think it would be impossible to "balance" PocketRadio. He seems to be a very unbalanced individual.

Glad he's on your side !

 

[Tom Wells]

It seems D' Alliance has appointed a person to provide "balance" to Pocketradio's input.

I think it would be impossible to "balance" PocketRadio. He seems to be a very unbalanced individual.

Glad he's on your side !

You seem to have a very well developed idea of personalities for such a new participant.
Perhaps we have already "met", under a different name. Yours, I mean.
You might let us know how many different names you are using.

And I trust Pocketradio not to break my radios, so I too am glad he's on my side.
I consider him to be a very effective and tireless reporter of news.
It is wonderful that his best work is the most annoying to you.
As I have said before, he provides balance, and hopefully his contributions annoy you as much as iBOC hiss on AM annoys us.


It may not be news of interest to those with closed minds, but for those who still care, his contributions are much appreciated.

 

[PocketRadio]

It seems D' Alliance has appointed a person to provide "balance" to Pocketradio's input.

I think it would be impossible to "balance" PocketRadio. He seems to be a very unbalanced individual.

Glad he's on your side !

You seem to have a very well developed idea of personalities for such a new participant.
Perhaps we have already "met", under a different name. Yours, I mean.
You might let us know how many different names you are using.

And I trust Pocketradio not to break my radios, so I too am glad he's on my side.
I consider him to be a very effective and tireless reporter of news.
It is wonderful that his best work is the most annoying to you.
As I have said before, he provides balance, and hopefully his contributions annoy you as much as iBOC hiss on AM annoys us.


It may not be news of interest to those with closed minds, but for those who still care, his contributions are much appreciated.

Thanks, Tom ! Luckily, I am off until June 5th, so there will be plenty more to come, hopefully. If this freak'n flawed, destuctive technology wasn't suck a joke, and being an avid AM DX'er (not really, just listen to the "clears"), I wouldn't be such an *ss ! This has been a great learning experience, for an average consumer !

 

[clouseau]

You seem to have a very well developed idea of personalities for such a new participant.
Perhaps we have already "met", under a different name. Yours, I mean.
You might let us know how many different names you are using.

Yes that would be enlightening. It's nice to see that this foolishness is not exclusive to just one side - NOT.

Clouseau

 

[PocketRadio]

"NEW UNSIGNED ACTS ADDED ON 'UNDISCOVERED' HD RADIO STATION"

"Here's a list of unsigned acts recently added into rotation on Clear Channel's 'Undiscovered' HD Radio station: (intheclear), 2nd Half, Animal Alpha, Annie Minogue Band, Barcelona, Buddy, Chandelle, Chapter 11, Choir Boy, Cinjun Tate, Darrell Scott, Deccatree, Elizabeth and the Catapult, The Hampdens, The Hedrons, Hensley, Jake Dynnis, Jim Bianco, Joe Purdy, John James Newman, Linda Strawberry, Lukewarm Freeda, Mother Superior, Shannon Eileen, The Swear, Upside, Verra Cruz, World Without Sundays..."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-unsigned-acts-added-on-undiscovered.html

Oh, I forgot to include the undiscovered talent - HD Radio, your next American Idol !

"Is 'Radio You' The New Model For Radio?"

"One HD station in Boston is attempting to buck the trend and rewrite the rules for radio. It's called Radio You. Here's how they're attempting to reinvent radio for young listeners:

- They're recruiting volunteer DJs, i.e. passionate/interested people (they might be local club spinners) who want to do their own two hour shows once a week via MySpace and message boards.

- The format is 'bottom up' (most of the ideas coming from the DJs) and will include documentary shows, comedy and video game shows -- one midday show is called "Acoustic Break-Dance'.

- They plan to rely heavily on MySpace and Facebook to promote the station as well as the alternative papers. They're also planning Radio You shows at parties, clubs and colleges.

- They know they need "a wicked cool Web site" [ah Boston] especially since most people will stream the station online (vs. have HD radio).

- For now, there are no commercials. Since HD is a new medium, stations get to experiment

Sounds like a station I would definitely tune into..."

http://ypulse.com/archives/2007/05/is_radio_you_th.php

Be daring, buck the trend - oh my, I think that I am going to vomit !

 

[radiopilot]

"NEW UNSIGNED ACTS ADDED ON 'UNDISCOVERED' HD RADIO STATION"

"Here's a list of unsigned acts recently added into rotation on Clear Channel's 'Undiscovered' HD Radio station: (intheclear), 2nd Half, Animal Alpha, Annie Minogue Band, Barcelona, Buddy, Chandelle, Chapter 11, Choir Boy, Cinjun Tate, Darrell Scott, Deccatree, Elizabeth and the Catapult, The Hampdens, The Hedrons, Hensley, Jake Dynnis, Jim Bianco, Joe Purdy, John James Newman, Linda Strawberry, Lukewarm Freeda, Mother Superior, Shannon Eileen, The Swear, Upside, Verra Cruz, World Without Sundays..."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-unsigned-acts-added-on-undiscovered.html

Oh, I forgot to include the undiscovered talent - HD Radio, your next American Idol !

"Is 'Radio You' The New Model For Radio?"

"One HD station in Boston is attempting to buck the trend and rewrite the rules for radio. It's called Radio You. Here's how they're attempting to reinvent radio for young listeners:

- They're recruiting volunteer DJs, i.e. passionate/interested people (they might be local club spinners) who want to do their own two hour shows once a week via MySpace and message boards.

- The format is 'bottom up' (most of the ideas coming from the DJs) and will include documentary shows, comedy and video game shows -- one midday show is called "Acoustic Break-Dance'.

- They plan to rely heavily on MySpace and Facebook to promote the station as well as the alternative papers. They're also planning Radio You shows at parties, clubs and colleges.

- They know they need "a wicked cool Web site" [ah Boston] especially since most people will stream the station online (vs. have HD radio).

- For now, there are no commercials. Since HD is a new medium, stations get to experiment

Sounds like a station I would definitely tune into..."

http://ypulse.com/archives/2007/05/is_radio_you_th.php

Be daring, buck the trend - oh my, I think that I am going to vomit !

PocketRadio

This type of programming on this station reminds me of the 'YouTube' generation where it's a 'do it like you feel it' type of programming.. funny but isn't this what terrestrial radio broadcasters didn't want in the form of 'pirate radio' and now it seems the mike(s) open to anybody and the kitchen sink... not that it's a bad thing, it's what makes radio interesting!

This might be Ok for a while till the young kids get held back on the fun by the jittery station managers/FCC censors... something young people frown upon.

Who knows it might just work!

Radiopilot

 

[Mike Walker]

I DESPISE YOUTUBE! Had anyone described it to me in advance, I would have sworn that NOBODY would visit a site like that. Shows how smart I am.

So, will this type of thing "fly" on HD? My impulses are the same as with YouTube. And they're probably wrong.

 

[dbdigital]

"NEW UNSIGNED ACTS ADDED ON 'UNDISCOVERED' HD RADIO STATION"

"Here's a list of unsigned acts recently added into rotation on Clear Channel's 'Undiscovered' HD Radio station: (intheclear), 2nd Half, Animal Alpha, Annie Minogue Band, Barcelona, Buddy, Chandelle, Chapter 11, Choir Boy, Cinjun Tate, Darrell Scott, Deccatree, Elizabeth and the Catapult, The Hampdens, The Hedrons, Hensley, Jake Dynnis, Jim Bianco, Joe Purdy, John James Newman, Linda Strawberry, Lukewarm Freeda, Mother Superior, Shannon Eileen, The Swear, Upside, Verra Cruz, World Without Sundays..."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-unsigned-acts-added-on-undiscovered.html

Oh, I forgot to include the undiscovered talent - HD Radio, your next American Idol !

"Is 'Radio You' The New Model For Radio?"

"One HD station in Boston is attempting to buck the trend and rewrite the rules for radio. It's called Radio You. Here's how they're attempting to reinvent radio for young listeners:

- They're recruiting volunteer DJs, i.e. passionate/interested people (they might be local club spinners) who want to do their own two hour shows once a week via MySpace and message boards.

- The format is 'bottom up' (most of the ideas coming from the DJs) and will include documentary shows, comedy and video game shows -- one midday show is called "Acoustic Break-Dance'.

- They plan to rely heavily on MySpace and Facebook to promote the station as well as the alternative papers. They're also planning Radio You shows at parties, clubs and colleges.

- They know they need "a wicked cool Web site" [ah Boston] especially since most people will stream the station online (vs. have HD radio).

- For now, there are no commercials. Since HD is a new medium, stations get to experiment

Sounds like a station I would definitely tune into..."

http://ypulse.com/archives/2007/05/is_radio_you_th.php

Be daring, buck the trend - oh my, I think that I am going to vomit !

PocketRadio

This type of programming on this station reminds me of the 'YouTube' generation where it's a 'do it like you feel it' type of programming.. funny but isn't this what terrestrial radio broadcasters didn't want in the form of 'pirate radio' and now it seems the mike(s) open to anybody and the kitchen sink... not that it's a bad thing, it's what makes radio interesting!

This might be Ok for a while till the young kids get held back on the fun by the jittery station managers/FCC censors... something young people frown upon.

Who knows it might just work!

Radiopilot

Since it's going on an HD2 channel few people will be hearing it so I doubt the FCC will be receiving any complaints should something censorable crop up in the broadcast. Besides, there's always that 7 second delay which I'm sure the station will put to good use since they will be dealing with kids and young adults who, for the most part, are not professional broadcasters.

db

 

[clouseau]

Be daring, buck the trend - oh my, I think that I am going to vomit !

Got it.

Same Old Same old = Bad

Completely new idea = Bad

Anything that promotes AM DX listening = good.

You know that's a valid opinion, but it's a little disingenous to portray yourself as an Average Consumer. Sorry, when it comes to radio, YOU'RE NOT.

Clouseau

 

[PocketRadio]

I thought this quote by writer Ben Fong-Torres really sums up the troubled state radio finds itself...

db

"Vanishing Fast: Radio Careers"

"We have had consolidation in radio for over ten years now and even after a flirtation with virtual voice tracking, the industry is fast becoming a nonstarter for serious careers."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/05/vanishing-fast-radio-careers.html

Interesting post today by Jerry - looks like he agrees with you...