I have a question about reception, will the HD radio signals reach all the way to Wise County or not? What do I go to on the interwebs to find info on how far a HD signal goes?
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HD Radio Reception
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MikeShannon914
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I found more HD stations today while driving across N Dallas into Irving and Arlington than I've been picking up on the eastern fringes of town. Also spotted some inconsistencies (why does WRR broadcast in HD, but does not use their HD-2 or 3? They could put a city government channel there, or a radio "guide" to downtown [much like their old LPAM.]) Also, only Jack-FM in the CBS cluster is using its HD-3...others don't. And KRLD-AM is already in HD, but it's repeated on KRLD-FM's HD-2 channel. On the HD Radio website, it says KAAM is broadcasting in HD, but I get nothing.
All things told, I'm really not that impressed with the formats on the local HD channels. Sure, there's some different things, but nothing that really suits my taste consistently. The music HD+ stations are so narrowcasted. The sound, however, is awesome.
Speaking of CBS, and considering they still run The Oasis on their HD-2, why not put CD-107.5 on HD-3, EZ-107.5 on an HD-4, and KDLZ/KNOK-107.5 The Black Rocker on an HD-5?
And still speaking of CBS, is it just me, or do all the music stations in the cluster go into commercial breaks at the exact same time? Jack is sometimes the exception, and I don't listen to Mega-107.5.
And does the PPM pick up HD listenership? Does KRLD-AM get points (or tenths of a point, in this case) for any FM/HD-2 listenership?
All things told, I'm really not that impressed with the formats on the local HD channels. Sure, there's some different things, but nothing that really suits my taste consistently. The music HD+ stations are so narrowcasted. The sound, however, is awesome.
Speaking of CBS, and considering they still run The Oasis on their HD-2, why not put CD-107.5 on HD-3, EZ-107.5 on an HD-4, and KDLZ/KNOK-107.5 The Black Rocker on an HD-5?
And still speaking of CBS, is it just me, or do all the music stations in the cluster go into commercial breaks at the exact same time? Jack is sometimes the exception, and I don't listen to Mega-107.5.
And does the PPM pick up HD listenership? Does KRLD-AM get points (or tenths of a point, in this case) for any FM/HD-2 listenership?
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dfaulkner
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MikeShannon914 said:
Two comments...
It could be the return of KMEZ, they were last on 107.5.
I've been noticing for a long time that all the stations (in the same cluster & sometimes stations in other clusters) run commercials at the same time. Sometimes it's the same commercial....
What was it that Alfred Hitchcock used to say ... "changing the station isn't advisable"...
MikeShannon914 said:
No. They have a hard enough time getting folks for the analog signals (minorities especially) let alone even TRY to measure HD listenership.
I liked what 93.3 had on their HD2 chan a while back, "Energy 93.3" and it was more or less what Kiss FM played back in the 90s. (best way I can describe it at least). I haven't scanned through recently to see what each station has, but I'm like you, Mike, there's nothing any of them stream/play that is better than my own personal collection of songs on my own mp3 player
and eskipper, go buy an hd radio and find out. If it doesn't work, take it back and get your money back.
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DoogieDownProduction
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-- (why does WRR broadcast in HD, but does not use their HD-2 or 3? They could put a city government channel there, or a radio "guide" to downtown [much like their old LPAM.]) --
Mike, WRR is devoting all 96 kbps of its HD bandwidth to the fidelity of its core station. I've heard of other classical stations around the country doing this as well. The classical audience is a little more demanding when it comes to fidelity and dynamic range.
Most stations devote half that bandwidth to their HD-1's and thus don't come anywhere near backing up the claim that HD FM is "CD quality."
As a comparison, consider that the iTunes store encodes its mp4's at 256 kbps and no one considers that to be CD quality, either.
All of that said, 96 kbps HD FM sounds pretty darned good. The typical 48 kbps HD-1 is okay and is pretty comparable to analog FM, though less compressed and without multi-path, when locked in.
Mike, WRR is devoting all 96 kbps of its HD bandwidth to the fidelity of its core station. I've heard of other classical stations around the country doing this as well. The classical audience is a little more demanding when it comes to fidelity and dynamic range.
Most stations devote half that bandwidth to their HD-1's and thus don't come anywhere near backing up the claim that HD FM is "CD quality."
As a comparison, consider that the iTunes store encodes its mp4's at 256 kbps and no one considers that to be CD quality, either.
All of that said, 96 kbps HD FM sounds pretty darned good. The typical 48 kbps HD-1 is okay and is pretty comparable to analog FM, though less compressed and without multi-path, when locked in.
Ask your friends if they have or know what an HD radio is and then watch their eyes glaze over.
Tony
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