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HD radio station count now at 1178

Exactly 1178 stations? Any new AMers recently?

As for the only number that really counts - the exact number of HD radios sold so far since January 2004? That figure is???
 
vsa said:
Exactly 1178 stations? Any new AMers recently?
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I hope not. I really don't think AM HD is the answer.

As for the only number that really counts - the exact number of HD radios sold so far since January 2004? That figure is???
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Everyone has a number. No one has an "official number" that I know of. Whatever that would be. I know of 10 or 15. I'm guessing it's at least a few more than that. :)

Clouseau
 
clouseau said:
But, no one is listening:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...,+sirius,+podcast,+xm&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

Interest, in HD Radio, is now in a free-fall:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio"
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Statistically irrelevant. [EDIT]

Clouseau


[EDIT-inflammatory]
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"Google Trends Launches"

"Even so, Steve Rubel says Google Trends is “a must-bookmark for every PR person and marketer worldwide.”

http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/05/10/google-trends-launches/

"A Study of Web Search Trends"

"People are spending increasing their electronic information access via Web search engines. Web searching services such as Google and Yahoo are now tools that people access everyday to find information."

http://www.webology.ir/2004/v1n2/a4.html
 
clouseau said:
But, no one is listening:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...,+sirius,+podcast,+xm&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

Interest, in HD Radio, is now in a free-fall:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio"
Click to expand...

Statistically irrelevant. [EDIT]

Clouseau


[EDIT-inflammatory]
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A downturn such as shown in the trend for HD is not irrelevant, as it easily shows the input from the ad campaign, at the spikes,
and inquiries trailing off soon after. This indicates that the trend is not sustaining itself, and worse, that interest generated by promotion
is short-lived.


I am no longer hearing WBBM Chicago AM 780 running any on-air promos regarding being in HD, though they are.
I have never heard WGN AM make reference to HD.

This revolution is still not making much impact in the people I ask.
I travel to customer sites for installations, upgrades, and troubleshooting, and have a steady stream of folks to
dicuss this with.

As I judge it, HD radio is not doing any better than AM stereo was about 1990.
This "upgrade" is SO off the map for most people, it's like trying to get them excited about a revolutionary new floor mat for cars.
They don't care (most of them) enough to run right out and get new floor mats. The whole issue is off the map for them.

I wanted to see some real promotion of AM stereo at the time, and was disgusted at the lack of implementing the standard.
I was sorry to see CQUAMs turn off.
Now, as I dearly hope AM IBOC is doomed, I surely wish AM-IBOC is saddled with the same lack of widescale implementation.

Does the count of 1178 include turned-off AMs, or does it show only how many were licensed?
 
clouseau said:
But, no one is listening:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...,+sirius,+podcast,+xm&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

Interest, in HD Radio, is now in a free-fall:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio"
Click to expand...

Statistically irrelevant. [EDIT]

Clouseau


[EDIT-inflammatory]
Click to expand...

"What kind of digital radio are listeners searching for?"

"What a cool analysis Google now provides via Google Trends. It's what folks are searching for - and we can assume that search is a representation of interest."

http://www.hear2.com/2006/10/what_kind_of_di.html

Not, searching for HD Radio !
 
Tom Wells said:
clouseau said:
But, no one is listening:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...,+sirius,+podcast,+xm&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

Interest, in HD Radio, is now in a free-fall:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio"
Click to expand...

Statistically irrelevant. [EDIT]

Clouseau


[EDIT-inflammatory]
Click to expand...

A downturn such as shown in the trend for HD is not irrelevant, as it easily shows the input from the ad campaign, at the spikes,
and inquiries trailing off soon after. This indicates that the trend is not sustaining itself, and worse, that interest generated by promotion
is short-lived.


I am no longer hearing WBBM Chicago AM 780 running any on-air promos regarding being in HD, though they are.
I have never heard WGN AM make reference to HD.

This revolution is still not making much impact in the people I ask.
I travel to customer sites for installations, upgrades, and troubleshooting, and have a steady stream of folks to
dicuss this with.

As I judge it, HD radio is not doing any better than AM stereo was about 1990.
This "upgrade" is SO off the map for most people, it's like trying to get them excited about a revolutionary new floor mat for cars.
They don't care (most of them) enough to run right out and get new floor mats. The whole issue is off the map for them.

I wanted to see some real promotion of AM stereo at the time, and was disgusted at the lack of implementing the standard.
I was sorry to see CQUAMs turn off.
Now, as I dearly hope AM IBOC is doomed, I surely wish AM-IBOC is saddled with the same lack of widescale implementation.

Does the count of 1178 include turned-off AMs, or does it show only how many were licensed?
Click to expand...

"RW Opinion: Rethinking AM’s future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air.)"

http://rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html
 
OK, I know better than to get sucked in, but I'll try one more time to show WHY Google trends show Internet searches and NOTHING else. Don't take their word for it. But let's ask ourselves. Is Google trends representative of the world? Or the Internet? Obviously some think it is. So I ask... What ELSE might be representative of the World? Or the internet? Or Radio?

How about a venue that would be available to anyone in the english speaking world. One which has no basic requirement to be from one educational group as opposed to another to participate. One that is non biased. One that is free? A venue which includes young and old. Rich and poor. Brilliant and ignorant. Voters and non voters. Amateurs and Professionals. Haves and Have Nots.

I give you

Radio-info.com. (Yes, I didn't post a link)

IF we follow what some of you say then this should truly be the UTOPIA of data for radio. Shall we look at some highlights?

Based on total number of posts, the biggest topic of interest in "Radio" is.....

BOSTON with over 20000 posts

That's odd, but the data goes furthur.

Now we all know that HD is not the most important topic with regards to radio.
HD - 9037

But it does have more interest than....


DX 3112

XM 2741
Sirius 2543
(Combined only half as popular as HD.)

Internet Streaming - 761 (Maybe Internet listeners only have email and no browser.)l
Binghamton, NY - 488 (Binghamton= more interest than Michigan and Detroit. Who'da Thunk)
Michigan and Detroit <300
Ham Radio - 157 (Cuz there's lots more hams than Ipods)
Podcasting - 74 (I guess no one cares.)
Show prep - 31 (I could have guessed. My morning show represents this figure)
Idaho - 3 (gotta be the darned Blue Football Field)

Amazing. Now if we could only get a trend.

Or maybe a clue...
http://www.rochester.edu/College/STT/introcourses.html

Feel free to use the learning institution of your choice. Or believe that Binghamton is bigger than market #10. Somewhere there's garbage that will prove anything if framed up well. This isn't "Internet" proof. It's "RADIO" proof.

Believe it.

Clouseau

Disclaimer... Please use the phrase "Illustrating absurdity by being absurd" in any reply.
Google trends show searches on Google. Even GOOGLE knows better than to claim anything else.
 
clouseau said:
OK, I know better than to get sucked in, but I'll try one more time to show WHY Google trends show Internet searches and NOTHING else. Don't take their word for it. But let's ask ourselves. Is Google trends representative of the world? Or the Internet? Obviously some think it is. So I ask... What ELSE might be representative of the World? Or the internet? Or Radio?

How about a venue that would be available to anyone in the english speaking world. One which has no basic requirement to be from one educational group as opposed to another to participate. One that is non biased. One that is free? A venue which includes young and old. Rich and poor. Brilliant and ignorant. Voters and non voters. Amateurs and Professionals. Haves and Have Nots.

I give you

Radio-info.com. (Yes, I didn't post a link)

IF we follow what some of you say then this should truly be the UTOPIA of data for radio. Shall we look at some highlights?

Based on total number of posts, the biggest topic of interest in "Radio" is.....

BOSTON with over 20000 posts

That's odd, but the data goes furthur.

Now we all know that HD is not the most important topic with regards to radio.
HD - 9037

But it does have more interest than....


DX 3112

XM 2741
Sirius 2543
(Combined only half as popular as HD.)

Internet Streaming - 761 (Maybe Internet listeners only have email and no browser.)l
Binghamton, NY - 488 (Binghamton= more interest than Michigan and Detroit. Who'da Thunk)
Michigan and Detroit <300
Ham Radio - 157 (Cuz there's lots more hams than Ipods)
Podcasting - 74 (I guess no one cares.)
Show prep - 31 (I could have guessed. My morning show represents this figure)
Idaho - 3 (gotta be the darned Blue Football Field)

Amazing. Now if we could only get a trend.

Or maybe a clue...
http://www.rochester.edu/College/STT/introcourses.html

Feel free to use the learning institution of your choice. Or believe that Binghamton is bigger than market #10. Somewhere there's garbage that will prove anything if framed up well. This isn't "Internet" proof. It's "RADIO" proof.

Believe it.

Clouseau

Disclaimer... Please use the phrase "Illustrating absurdity by being absurd" in any reply.
Google trends show searches on Google. Even GOOGLE knows better than to claim anything else.
Click to expand...

"comScore December U.S. Search Engine Rankings; 6.7 billion Searches, Up 30% YoY"

"Americans conducted 6.7 billion searches online in December, up 1% from November and a strong 30% growth since the same month a year ago, according to comScore Networks."

http://www.metrics2.com/blog/internet_indicators/search/

"About Google Trends"

"Google Trends analyzes a portion of Google web searches to compute how many searches have been done for the terms you enter relative to the total number of searches done on Google over time. We then show you a graph with the results -- our search-volume graph -- plotted on a linear scale."

http://www.google.com/intl/en/trends/about.html#4

"What kind of digital radio are listeners searching for?"

"What a cool analysis Google now provides via Google Trends. It's what folks are searching for - and we can assume that search is a representation of interest."

http://www.hear2.com/2006/10/what_kind_of_di.html


1) http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio"

2) http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...ast,+"internet+radio"&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

3) http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+sirius,+podcast,+ipod,+mp3&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
 
clouseau said:
OK, I know better than to get sucked in, but I'll try one more time to show WHY Google trends show Internet searches and NOTHING else. Don't take their word for it. But let's ask ourselves. Is Google trends representative of the world? Or the Internet? Obviously some think it is. So I ask... What ELSE might be representative of the World? Or the internet? Or Radio?

How about a venue that would be available to anyone in the english speaking world. One which has no basic requirement to be from one educational group as opposed to another to participate. One that is non biased. One that is free? A venue which includes young and old. Rich and poor. Brilliant and ignorant. Voters and non voters. Amateurs and Professionals. Haves and Have Nots.

I give you

Radio-info.com. (Yes, I didn't post a link)

IF we follow what some of you say then this should truly be the UTOPIA of data for radio. Shall we look at some highlights?

Based on total number of posts, the biggest topic of interest in "Radio" is.....

BOSTON with over 20000 posts

That's odd, but the data goes furthur.

Now we all know that HD is not the most important topic with regards to radio.
HD - 9037

But it does have more interest than....


DX 3112

XM 2741
Sirius 2543
(Combined only half as popular as HD.)

Internet Streaming - 761 (Maybe Internet listeners only have email and no browser.)l
Binghamton, NY - 488 (Binghamton= more interest than Michigan and Detroit. Who'da Thunk)
Michigan and Detroit <300
Ham Radio - 157 (Cuz there's lots more hams than Ipods)
Podcasting - 74 (I guess no one cares.)
Show prep - 31 (I could have guessed. My morning show represents this figure)
Idaho - 3 (gotta be the darned Blue Football Field)

Amazing. Now if we could only get a trend.

Or maybe a clue...
http://www.rochester.edu/College/STT/introcourses.html

Feel free to use the learning institution of your choice. Or believe that Binghamton is bigger than market #10. Somewhere there's garbage that will prove anything if framed up well. This isn't "Internet" proof. It's "RADIO" proof.

Believe it.

Clouseau

Disclaimer... Please use the phrase "Illustrating absurdity by being absurd" in any reply.
Google trends show searches on Google. Even GOOGLE knows better than to claim anything else.
Click to expand...

"Nielsen NetRatings Search Engine Ratings"

http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2156451

NOTE: Google 49%

"Google Trends Gives P2P Insight"

"As progress is made on Google Trends, the information provided should become more accurate. For now however, it gives a generalized indication on popular topics in file-sharing, digital distribution, and just about anything else you can think of."

http://www.slyck.com/story1188.html

"Google Trends: Measuring the Impact of Healthcare Communications"

http://www.healthcarevox.com/2006/05/google_trends_measuring_the_im.html


world-wide HD Radio:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...,+xm,+sirius,+podcast&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

US HD Radio:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+...",+xm,+sirius,+podcast&ctab=0&geo=US&date=all
 
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