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HD Radio Stations I Can Get

Philip J. Smith wrote: "I keyed in a list of all the HD Radio stations I can get here...http://psmith.us/rf/hdradio...What stations can you receive at home?  What receiver and antenna(s) do you use?"

Wow, Philip, you're really into this aren't you. I admire your enthusiasm. As for the high def receiver I use here in the Los Angeles area? It's a Roku SoundBridge M1001, available at any Best Buy for $199. My antenna is built-in to the receiver, picking up the signal from my wi-fi which I already had here so I could frequent Radio-Info.com. What stations can I receive at home? I have two partial lists:

List #1:  http://www.shoutcast.com/
List #2:  http://www.windowsmedia.com/Mediaguide/Radio

By the way, I noticed on your list that you could NOT pick up WTMX HD-1 and HD-2 at all. Hmmm. I had no problem picking up either of them here in Los Angeles - coming in here loud and high-def clear right now. I was even able to hear WTMX's "The Mix iChannel" too.

Maybe you need a bigger antenna.

Are my choices here too limited? Do you think I'm missing much?
 
vsa said:
Philip J. Smith wrote: "I keyed in a list of all the HD Radio stations I can get here...http://psmith.us/rf/hdradio...What stations can you receive at home? What receiver and antenna(s) do you use?"

Wow, Philip, you're really into this aren't you. I admire your enthusiasm. As for the high def receiver I use here in the Los Angeles area? It's a Roku SoundBridge M1001, available at any Best Buy for $199. My antenna is built-in to the receiver, picking up the signal from my wi-fi which I already had here so I could frequent Radio-Info.com. What stations can I receive at home? I have two partial lists:

List #1: http://www.shoutcast.com/
List #2: http://www.windowsmedia.com/Mediaguide/Radio

By the way, I noticed on your list that you could NOT pick up WTMX HD-1 and HD-2 at all. Hmmm. I had no problem picking up either of them here in Los Angeles - coming in here loud and high-def clear right now. I was even able to hear WTMX's "The Mix iChannel" too.

Maybe you need a bigger antenna.

Are my choices here too limited? Do you think I'm missing much?
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Am I confused, I thought this was a HD Radio room, like the title says. I dind't know this room covered internet radio too. I guess the internet radio room must have shut down.
 
Mr. Burns,

I was discussing which Chicago HD-1 and HD-2 radio stations I could pick up on my SoundBridge from Los Angeles - stations which Mr. Smith says he could not.

I must say, the Chicago HD stations I heard on my SoundBridge sure sounded CD-like in quality to me. I guess iBiquity's claims are true after all.

I'm sorry you are so confused. It may explain many of your earlier posts. I hope you get well soon.

Please take note that in this thread, I have not used the dreaded "In***net" word. Not even once. You and Mr. Peazy have.
 
vsa said:
Mr. Burns,

I was discussing which Chicago HD-1 and HD-2 radio stations I could pick up on my SoundBridge from Los Angeles - stations which Mr. Smith says he could not.

I must say, the Chicago HD stations I heard on my SoundBridge sure sounded CD-like in quality to me. I guess iBiquity's claims are true after all.

I'm sorry you are so confused. It may explain many of your earlier posts. I hope you get well soon.
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Now who's being a wise guy. You were listening to internet streamed audio from your household wireless router not Hybrid Digital over a real wi-fi system (which doesn't exist in any major city or major metro area yet). I'd love to see you take that radio say to a location 10 miles from your present location and receive a seamless signal from one of those HD streams. I can do that with a JVC HD radio in my car. What's funny about all this is that in the end all the anti IBOC comments will mean nothing. In this case you've already lost.
 
Now, now, Mr. Burns. Please calm down.

According to the topic of this thread, using a digital receiver, I was listening to Chicago HD-1 and HD-2 radio stations. Mr. Smith was using a component device, not a mobile unit. Both of us were using component, non-mobile, devices.

Since you bring it up, besides my SoundBridge M1001, I also have a mobile device that is perfectly capable of receiving these same stations in my car - while speeding down a freeway. I do this sort of thing ALL THE TIME. This technology is not wi-fi. It's called EV-DO.

You also speak of "losing". I'm afraid the buying public decides that. Not me, not you, not iBiquity, not even the FCC. I'm sure you remember AM Stereo.

 
 
AM stereo that's sold millions of units, with new ones coming out all the time...including most of the new HD radios (which, being software defined, can receive AM Stereo with no extra hardware). Why should we "remember" AM Stereo, when it's available NOW!

Did you know it's ILLEGAL to put a station in the expanded band UNLESS it's AM Stereo? That's a REQUIREMENT! Is THAT the AM stereo of which you speak?

My father used to say "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Some here know little enough to be REALLY dangerous! ;D
 
vsa said:
Dear Mr. Peazy,

The man wanted to know what radios we use and what we can pick up with them at home. He didn't say it had to be an HD radio. I merely obliged, particularly since my SoundBridge can hear HD radio stations quite well - from across the country - without an antenna.

Noting that he couldn't pick up some HD radio stations in his own area, I let him know that I was able to hear them from clear across the country - so they must be broadcasting and therefore he might be in need of a bigger antenna or something.

I meant it when I said I admire his enthusiasm.

I was trying to be a good neighbor and you call it "crap"?

Who's going around with a chip on his shoulder?
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Not only does he say it's a list of the "HD Radio" stations he can receive, this is an HD Radio board, so that is always implied.

You aren't "receiving" anything with an internet radio appliance. It's merely decoding streams over a TCP/IP network. It has nothing to do with radio - AM, FM or HD.

A 2nd grader could have figured out what the original poster was talking about, yet you feign ignorance?
 
It's common knowledge that every expanded-band broadcaster must use Motorola's AM stereo system. So what?
 
Mr. Peazy,

We are talking about the programming on HD-1 and HD-2 stations, aren't we? I was listening to the programming, digitally! What's your problem? That iBiquity wasn't making a dime off of it?

Do you actually think LISTENERS go, oooooh I really like the sound of these IBOC ones and zeros over this other set of ones and zeros?
 
vsa said:
Mr. Peazy,

We are talking about the programming on HD-1 and HD-2 stations, aren't we? I was listening to the programming, digitally! What's your problem? That iBiquity wasn't making a dime off of it?

Do you actually think LISTENERS go, oooooh I really like the sound of these IBOC ones and zeros over this other set of ones and zeros?
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The problem, as I originally stated is the continuing proliferation of internet radio discussion on this board. This isn't the internet/webcasting board! It's the HD Radio board after all.

The intent of the original poster was very clear. He wanted to have a discussion of HD stations that could be received over the air at everyone's location. That makes sense since this is the HD board. He specifically asked what type of receiver and antenna everyone is using.

I don't think the internet could be considered an antenna by any definitinon whatsoever. Likewise, your streaming audio device isn't a receiver.

Why you chose to introduce it to a conversation of HD Radio reception, receivers and antennas is a mystery unless your intent was merely to antagonize or derail the discussion.
 
Mr. Peazy,

You continue to complain about my so-called motives in this thread instead of the substance of what I've had to say. Please stick to the facts and don't attempt to sidetrack this discussion away from listening to HD radio stations that one can receive.

Once again, you, not I, continue to bring up the "In***net".

You seem obsessed by or in fear of it. It's obvious that your financial future must surely be wrapped up with iBiquity's.
 
vsa said:
It's common knowledge that every expanded-band broadcaster must use Motorola's AM stereo system. So what?
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That rule has not been observed for years, and the HD regulations will, no doubt, eliminate this lingering detail as the two are not compatible.
 
vsa said:
Mr. Peazy,

You continue to complain about my so-called motives in this thread instead of the substance of what I've had to say. Please stick to the facts and don't attempt to sidetrack this discussion away from listening to HD radio stations that one can receive.

Once again, you, not I, continue to bring up the "In***net".

You seem obsessed by or in fear of it. It's obvious that your financial future must surely be wrapped up with iBiquity's.
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Whatever you want to believe.

You, not I are the one who hijacked a thread that was clearly about over the air HD Radio reception and made it about the Roku Soundbridge internet appliance. I assure you, I would have had no reason to mention the "In***net" in this thread had you not brought it up first.

What you said has no substance with regard to the purpose of the thread.

As I said before, the original poster's intent would have been clear to a 2nd grader. The Roku Soundbridge is NOT an HD Radio.
 
The point was not that everyone should run out and convert to C-Quam AM stereo. Of course not. It'd be ridiculous to recommend that now. My point was that AM Stereo wasn't the unequivocal failure it's been made out to be.

I know I'm a gadget freak, radio nerd, and far from typical, but I probably have ten working AM Stereo radios.
 
Mike Walker said:
The point was not that everyone should run out and convert to C-Quam AM stereo. Of course not. It'd be ridiculous to recommend that now. My point was that AM Stereo wasn't the unequivocal failure it's been made out to be.
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Yes, it absolutely was. AM continued to decline in listenership despite AM stereo, and few stations adopted it for long. Too little, way too late.

I know I'm a gadget freak, radio nerd, and far from typical, but I probably have ten working AM Stereo radios.
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What doomed it was the platform motion that took 10 years to fix.
 
If you guys are going to say the Roku is not a radio because of some distinction you've established,
you are also saying IBOC is not a radio in the same breath.

Roku and IBOC HD are both modem connected. The Roku, by virtue of internet connectivity enjoys the same
questionable connectivity as an over-air-data modem. Both methods can work well or poorly.

The computer inside then reassembles as much audio as was sent.

The only difference is data delivery path.
One use a structure developed for many years to move data.
The other one uses the public's radio waves.

Neither one is a radio.

A radio I again repeat, works WITH natural laws inherent in physics to modulate information.
in a way that the medium propagates. It does not work against them, stubbornly.

Simplicity at the receiving end shows all the smarts went into design and concept.
Unlike HD IBOC where a computer is required at each receiver!

Which way will you have it? I beleive that by, the the rules of RF, eazy, and others spoorting IBOC, the Roku is a radio.
It's an RF-fed bitstream no different from any other.

EXCEPT HIS ROKU IS NOT MAKING NOISE ON MY RADIOS.

His radio plays nice with all of my radios, just like sattelite does, but now HD has to come in like a thug and says:
"we gonna --- this place up. You bettah like it. Punk. Charlie sez it's gonna be OK, huh?"



Mr. Burns, I await a response regarding the real reason audio mod. must keep sibilants and percussives out of the bitstream.
Is it not to keep the data trom being confused by the audio in these "events".
 
To clarify my original post for those whom require such clarification... I am curious what HD Radio stations other people can receive via an HD Radio FM receiver, tuned to the broadcast band from 88 - 108 MHz, and not from a personal FM transmitter/modulator device, from a FCC-licensed broadcaster running HD Radio's flavor of IBOC (or IBAC as it should be called).

http://psmith.us/rf/hdradio
 
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