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K231CN is translating KCDF-LP.
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I was not aware that an LP radio station that's non commercial can re-broadcast on a commercial translator that advertises all sorts of commercial and clients.
I’m not questioning their legality nor saying that they’re running it legally either. Just replying to you about 94.1 not originating programming.
Yep. It’s been mentioned quite a few times that most Houston translators are illegally powered and originating programming
That’s still illegal. That LPFM contour has to overlap the translator and the translator has to pick up the LPFM over the air. So the translator is originating programming. They could be rebroadcasting KOHV-LP but that’s not on the air and I think that translator would only be picking up Radio Dabang.
Partially correct. An FM translator rebroadcasting a station on a non fill-in basis (where the reserved band satellator rule does not apply) must receive the primary station over the air. However, the requirement of contour overlap is only required when the LPFM and the translator are commonly owned by the same licensee. There are some translators that are receiving an LPFM station over the air where there is no contour overlap but in those cases, the translator is licensed to a different party.
My bad I did not know that. But I don't see how the translator would even be able to pick up the LPFM roughly 20 miles away while there's another LPFM on the same frequency nearby. Also there were times where the translator and LPFM were not in sync so it's still illegal.
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I gave up on HD radio when KRTH in Los Angeles eliminated KRTH HD2, it was a great oldies alternative to their main station that ditched the oldies for an 80's and 90s format, and until HD radio becomes standard equipment in every car, it may never catch on.
I’ve seen the HD Radio text display GOD LISTENS in between songs before. They must have upgraded their RDS when they upgraded HD too
Agreed. I am aware of at least one translator rebroadcasting an LPFM from several states away. Unless someone objects, the FCC lets it go. Of course, to add more staff to check this kind of stuff requires the hiring additional full time employees and with the NAB breathing down the FCC's and Congress' neck about reg fees, I don't see that happening any time soon.
In the past, I had received inquiries from people wanting to buy translators and when I ask them which local station they plan to rebroadcast, they don't have one. They thought they could originate their own programming. Of course, the conversation stops at that point.
I was an early adopter of the technology back in the mid 2000s when I purchased a JVC head unit. I always ran into a ton of HD dropouts around Montgomery County (I-45 and TX-242 area). I could get most Senior Rd analog signals as far away as Robertson County with no issues (north of Bryan, TX), whereas HD would start dropping out near Hempstead.
I ended up buying the "ipod" accessory from JVC and rarely used the tuner after the novelty of "HD Radio" wore off.
Several states away? That’s one powerful LPFM 😂.
Well this particular broadcaster I don’t think has 1 legal translator in the Houston area. Same with another group in Houston. They just straight up originate programming and ID as an HD signal that doesn’t exist. It wouldn’t surprise me if they start IDing as an HD5 or HD6. Also most of the translators are overpowered and most interfere with other stations. It really is the Wild West down here.
Michelle would know this better than I do, but I've been told you'd be surprised what you can pick up over the air when you have a 100 foot antenna. I also understand you can null out signals in certain directions. I haven’t practiced that myself. So, I don’t know how well it works in the real world or if it works consistently, but picking up a more distant LPFM might be possible unless the nearer one is between the antenna and the station.
If that’s the case, yes, something strange is likely happening. When the full power signal completely encompasses the translator signal, it can use an alternate method of feeding the translator. I don’t see how you could get any noticeable delay on one or the other if you were receiving the parent signal off air.
I believe that this expression is politically incorrect and is offensive to horses.
It probably does work well. The Air1 translator in Conroe apparently picks up the station over the air. I've never heard any issues whenever KVIL completely takes over KHJK during strong tropos. I doubt that's what La Nueva is doing though.
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