hd the seeds are being planted worldwide

[tankedsecondchance]

its not going away even india is talking now about the concept..and has started some efforts to stop worldspace in its tracks. india may be asking for twenty percent of revenue and plans to dis-allow the ground based repeater network needed for automotive and portable devices...

this article lets me thinking radio competes with everything audio or video....im glad ibiquity made the comments.



http://www.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k7/june/june307.php



Asia can take advantage of HD radio technology

Indiantelevision.com Team

(22 June 2007 2:30 pm)


SINGAPORE: HD radio technology can be low cost, easy to implement and an effective solution for all broadcast organisations, said iBiquity Digital Corporation’s P. V. Priestley at BroadcastAsia in Singapore.


The technology has been proven on every continent and is available now. HD Radio broadcasting has seen and will see more dramatic success worldwide simply because it has features and benefits to suit all.

The HD Radio system operates on both AM-MW and FM VHF Band II either in a digital-only mode or in a "hybrid" digital plus analogue mode. The result is that AM stations have "FM quality" sound and FM stations can achieve "CD-like quality" audio and carry multiple audio programs streams (known also as multicasting).

 

[Mike Walker]

The heck of it is, in countries where there are hundreds, or dizens of AM stations rather than THOUSANDS as in the US, AM HD can probably operate WITHOUT any of the interference issues we've discussed here.

 

[PocketRadio]

its not going away even india is talking now about the concept..and has started some efforts to stop worldspace in its tracks. india may be asking for twenty percent of revenue and plans to dis-allow the ground based repeater network needed for automotive and portable devices...

this article lets me thinking radio competes with everything audio or video....im glad ibiquity made the comments.

http://www.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k7/june/june307.php

Digital radio is in trouble around the world - interest in DAB in the UK is slowing and is too expensive to go nationwide, DAB has stalled in Canada, and there is no consumer interest in HD/IBOC in th US. iBiquity is hustling their flawed system to Brazil, Mexico, and now India, but HD/IBOC will never take-hold due to having to purchase HD receivers. iBiquity is betting on the "digital" hype, but consumers could care-less about the delivery system for terrestrial radio - consumers have moved onto other technologies. It's too late - just because they build it, doesn't mean anyone will come !

 

[radiopilot]

its not going away even india is talking now about the concept..and has started some efforts to stop worldspace in its tracks. india may be asking for twenty percent of revenue and plans to dis-allow the ground based repeater network needed for automotive and portable devices...

this article lets me thinking radio competes with everything audio or video....im glad ibiquity made the comments.

http://www.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k7/june/june307.php

just because they build it, doesn't mean anyone will come !

Wasn't the World Trade Towers half occupied with no further leases and not even finsished above a certain level prior to 9/11, as are probably alot of other buildings across America!

Like you said just because they build it does not mean consumers are using it.

Radiopilot

 

[davideduardo]

Wasn't the World Trade Towers half occupied with no further leases and not even finsished above a certain level prior to 9/11, as are probably alot of other buildings across America!

When Silverstein bought the building in early 2001, the occupancy rate was higher than that of other financial district buildings and home to about 500 different companies (like all large commercial buildings, there is always some turnover). I did a due diligence there in 1980 and all floors were built out then... including the broadcast areas and mechanical on the upper floors.

"KING: Harry, was the building fully rented?

SMITH: It was -- the occupancy was awfully darn close to full. And I think the thing that's interesting, because Paul was talking about how this thing was built -- it was originally built as a World Trade Center, which it never, ever was. It was supposed to be full of mom and pop sort of operations, steamboat brokers and people who would deal in goods and services that dealt, really, with the Port of Newark and Port of New York City. And as the buildings went up it became very clear very early on that the rents were going to be too high. And it never, ever really was a World Trade Center.

KING: We'll take a break and come back. Our panel will be joined by other guests. They'll be with us throughout. You're watching LARRY KING WEEKEND; don't go away. "

"Smith" is the journalist who did the History Channel documentary on the Towers. King, of course, is Larry King on CNN.

 

[Mike Walker]

Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true, Pocket. Digital radio has a larger audience in the UK than analog, and more digital radios are sold now than analog. Sales of new radios WILL slow...as 100 percent penetration is approached!

Sales of DVD players has really slowed in the US. Think that means nobody's using them? IT'S BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS ONE! GEEZ!

There isn't an industrialized country on the planet that hasn't taken at least the first steps toward digitizing radio. Canada did have problems with public acceptance of L band digital But they're not giving up on converting to digital. Instead, they're considering the American HD system. As sparsely populated as Canada is, they could probably find the spectrum for DRM there, but it wouldn't make any sense for people living along the border. Technically, when the USA catches a cold, Canada sneezes. They even have the EXACT SAME PHONE SYSTEM as us. Not similar, THE SAME.

 

[PocketRadio]

Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true, Pocket. Digital radio has a larger audience in the UK than analog, and more digital radios are sold now than analog. Sales of new radios WILL slow...as 100 percent penetration is approached!

Sales of DVD players has really slowed in the US. Think that means nobody's using them? IT'S BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS ONE! GEEZ!

There isn't an industrialized country on the planet that hasn't taken at least the first steps toward digitizing radio. Canada did have problems with public acceptance of L band digital But they're not giving up on converting to digital. Instead, they're considering the American HD system. As sparsely populated as Canada is, they could probably find the spectrum for DRM there, but it wouldn't make any sense for people living along the border. Technically, when the USA catches a cold, Canada sneezes. They even have the EXACT SAME PHONE SYSTEM as us. Not similar, THE SAME.

"President of WorldDMB was dishonest about DAB+ on BBC TV"

"Quentin Howard was also dishonest about the sound quality you get on DAB (he called it "fantastic", when in reality it is awful and much worse than FM) and he said that "Most of the retail stores now are not selling analogue radios any more, you can only buy DAB digital radio sets", which a quick visit to the retail stores will show you is again completely untrue."

http://digitalradiotech.co.uk/articles/President-of-WorldDMB-was-dishonest-about-DAB+-on-BBC-TV.php

"Straining to hear digital radio - Europe has a head start in terrestrial digital radio, but is anybody listening?"

"But today, digital radio is struggling to find its legs. While it's still in the cradle in the United States, it has begun to crawl, a bit, in Europe and elsewhere... Europe has had a standard for digital radio for some time. The European Union adopted the standard, called Eureka 147, 10 years ago. But high prices and a lack of consumer interest have kept the market tiny."

http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA266524&ref=nbra

"Digital radio in Canada"

"The Commission is very concerned about the stalled DRB transition. Roughly 15 of the 76 authorized stations (including the digital-only operation in Toronto) are not on the air. Some stations that once operated have since ceased operations. Few recievers have been sold, and there is no interest in expanding DRB service beyond the six cities where it exists."

http://americanbandscan.blogspot.com/2006/12/digital-radio-in-canada....

The UK is talking about replacing DAB with DAB+ because it has been such a failure - yea, quite the success !

 

[dbdigital]

DAB is actually transitioning to DMB or Digital Multimedia Broadcasting as its capabilities get expanded to include mobile TV. It is has become very popular in South Korea.

Countries in Europe that have been broadcasting DAB (Britain, Germany, France, etc.) are converting to DMB. Even Sweden which halted its DAB broadcasts in '04 is now considering DMB.

db

 

[Chuck]

DAB is actually transitioning to DMB or Digital Multimedia Broadcasting as its capabilities get expanded to include mobile TV. It is has become very popular in South Korea.

Countries in Europe that have been broadcasting DAB (Britain, Germany, France, etc.) are converting to DMB. Even Sweden which halted its DAB broadcasts in '04 is now considering DMB.

db

As Americans, we like to think out technology is superior to what is available throughout the world. At one time that was true, and those of us who went to school during the 1950's and 60's still cling to that belief. My suggestion is to take a vacation to Europe. Your American dollar will be worthless. The Euro has smoked the US dollar. But the reason for going (other than to see the sights) is to see where they are in the land of technology. They are way ahead of us in Internet, satellite and cell phone systems. That will eventually have a spill over effect in broadcasting.

In my opinion, HD is just a stop-gap cure for a lot bigger problem. The future of broadcasting is definitely digital. That should be obvious to almost everyone. Will the eventual winner be HD radio? I don’t think so. Check with me in 20 years to see if I’m right.

 

[PocketRadio]

DAB is actually transitioning to DMB or Digital Multimedia Broadcasting as its capabilities get expanded to include mobile TV. It is has become very popular in South Korea.

Countries in Europe that have been broadcasting DAB (Britain, Germany, France, etc.) are converting to DMB. Even Sweden which halted its DAB broadcasts in '04 is now considering DMB.

db

"UK DAB industry admits DAB+ will be used in the UK" 29th March 2007

http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/articles/UK-DAB-industry-admits-DAB+-will-be-used-in-the-UK.php