OK, thanks, I was assuming there was a "hard" limit, surprised my little Insignia portable even recognized an HD4 stream. That's good that new encoding techniques will allow more subs, but bad in the way, as it was pointed out with the bandwidth issue and all the subs getting crappier the more that are added. I know digital TV is like that. As for quality, hard to tell on my end, as the HD subs were coming and going, as the Insignia isn't that sensitive and I'm out near West Park.