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HDRadio.com stations list

has anyone noticed that they dont update certain ones?
WDBO main signal is listed as classic rock when its news/talk
WDAS am is still shoing the old format
 
Oh John, I think they gave up on that list long ago. They got it to a point where it made the system look like it was really popular, with lots of listings and a smattering of "station coming soon" boasts, and at least in my state almost NONE of it is accurate anymore. The stations debuting soon are not in HD still and the ones that are, are either mostly off air or carrying a different than listed format for translator rebroadcast.
 
AM stations with co-owned FM's that have better coverage than the AM's usually wind up on an HD-2 or 3 of the FM and then there is no longer any reason to run HD on the AM. WQAM(560) stopped theirs and then went on 96.5.2
 
Wow, down to 207 (from the 2009 high of almost 300 stations.) That's quite the recent dump. Happy 2013, everyone! ;D

(Let's see if we can get to 150 or fewer in the new year....)
 
Barry doesn't always update that list immediately when a station drops HD. For example, 1580 KMIK in Tempe, AZ (Phoenix area) has had HD off for something going on a couple months or so now, and his list says it's still on. I talked to him on the #mwdx irc channel recently about it. He said that since they're still restricting analog audio to 5 kHz, it's a red flag to him, apparently meaning they could end up resuming HD sometime.

I was thinking about something recently ... I wonder what stations that had formerly been broadcasting C-Quam, but converted to IBOC (or just turned analog stereo off without going digital), still have their C-Quam exiters laying around somewhere gathering dust? If so, I wonder how many of those exciters could be pressed into service (after any necessary repairs are made) if the station chose to do so?
 
I know of one station in Birmingham that was C-QUAM until they prepped for HD, and it was a relatively new transmitter plant or had been recently renovated, so I imagine their encoder is probably ready and willing to back into service should they decide to use it again. Unfortunately it's a Crawford station, which means they will cling to HD on AM until the world ends.

Speaking of Crawford, I noticed the list includes KLDC in Dever as being on 24/7. They run a whopping 660 watts days and 11 watts night at 1220 — that AM HD signal probably doesn't escape the transmitter fence at night!
 
After they turned off their HD exciter, WLS AM was kind enough to bring the C-QUAM exciter back on the air. It's on 24/7 based on my observations. Sounds great! Especially when they played music for the retrospective...
 
HD radio doesn't want to admit that stations are dropping HD like flies. Every passing year more stations look to their balance sheet and notice that HD radio is not bringing in any revenue.
 
When an AM station drops HD but goes on an FM station's HD 2 or 3, that is not a loss for HD, just a loss for AM HD.
 
That makes my laugh, a list for FM. It needs to be updated daily. Is it a list with what should be on the air or one that is on the air? When the HD drops do stations wait for listener complaints before they do anything about it? Some broadcaster are very good about their HD. Most believe it is a cost. HD2 here today gone tomorrow is the flavor of this technology if the public does not get excited about it. HD1 is next. There are stations in buffalo that had HD on years ago but have not had it on for years but still on the list at hdradio.com others show the wrong HD2 format two format changes ago and no longer have HD2 on the air and HD1 has been off since beginning of December. The only way to keep it current is local boots on the ground reporting in every day from every market.
 
I doubt stations listen for complaints because there's no place to actually complain to! Have you ever tried to find a contact link on a corporate station's website? There isn't any. And Facebook/Twitter aren't much better. The last two times I brought up HD issues on a Facebook page they either a) deleted my posts or b) blocked me for asking them to fix it. Both times, nothing got done.

It's stupid how they claim no one is listening, yet ignore us when we tell them something is wrong, which proves we're listening. No wonder radio is going down the tubes.

My experience with small town stations or locally owned broadcasters, on the other hand, are much different. They're at least willing to say, "yeah, something's broke and we plan on fixing it, but we don't have the money right now." I've even talked directly to some engineers this way over the years. They're a friendly bunch. I don't doubt the same applies to the corporate stations, they're just behind a massive communications firewall that only accepts praise and adoration, not technical questions.
 
Zach said:
I doubt stations listen for complaints because there's no place to actually complain to! Have you ever tried to find a contact link on a corporate station's website? There isn't any. And Facebook/Twitter aren't much better. The last two times I brought up HD issues on a Facebook page they either a) deleted my posts or b) blocked me for asking them to fix it. Both times, nothing got done.

It's stupid how they claim no one is listening, yet ignore us when we tell them something is wrong, which proves we're listening. No wonder radio is going down the tubes.

My experience with small town stations or locally owned broadcasters, on the other hand, are much different. They're at least willing to say, "yeah, something's broke and we plan on fixing it, but we don't have the money right now." I've even talked directly to some engineers this way over the years. They're a friendly bunch. I don't doubt the same applies to the corporate stations, they're just behind a massive communications firewall that only accepts praise and adoration, not technical questions.

Usually the chief engineer's email is listed on station's websites. There is an AM station close to me that broadcasts the hiss days only, a few times it was going all night, I wrote to the engineer and told him about it and he found that the computer wasn't shutting it off at sunset. It did the same thing last week and I wrote an email to another person at the station, told him his station was making a racket at night 15 kHz up and down from their center frequency, it was off the next next night and has stayed off. I'm hoping that they figured the problem wasn't worth fixing and they just shut it off for good. The engineer was surprised the first time I contacted him, surprised that anyone even knew of IBOC. This is a small town station though.
I once contacted the WBZ chief engineer asking him how long before he dumps IBOC and he wrote back praising IBOC, this was almost 5 years ago, I think it was Mark Manuelian.
 
Mark has to praise IBOC. It's CBS corporate policy. Otherwise it's bamboo under the fingernails. And THEN they fire him.
 
KB1OKL said:
Usually the chief engineer's email is listed on station's websites.

Usually? Considering that most stations don't even have a full- or part-time engineer on the payroll, I don't even buy "sometimes."
 
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