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He should be screaming Bloody Murder.

Whether your tuning in terrestrial or satellite radio......I have always noticed the bias of today's stations even trying a single out on the air waves to see if the public would claim it would be a hit or not. Especially from a veteran super star artist. And one of the reasons for the downfall of both the radio and record industry is the poor or no promotion of the latest Guns N' Roses "Chinese Democracy". With all the hype of how long it to Axel to record it...does any format or CHR/Hot AC station even try to break or plug it? How would the public know if it's worth buying the whole CD without a station featuring it.
It receives a 15 minute of fame headline that it's available for release on a Tuesday.....and that's it. No airplay or attempt to break it.
And that takes me to the next step when the new Bruce Springsteen CD get's released I believe next month. I don't remember ever or barely hearing a cut on the last CD he released, it except for the sound system inside the Panda restaurant I was eating at.....(I think it was his latest release at the time ) will just go by the way for a 15 minute fame media hype announcements, and then that's it...no radio airplay. No break out.
Yes , I'm gonna hear a joker reply to me that people just prefer their older stuff, especially at concerts. So if they have a few more years up their sleave ....they still shouldn't bother recording anything new. Or we have an all rocker in town that plays a few cuts off the CD. The latter might be true....but the majority 12-54 does not primarily focus on what the rock station plays or happens to have have an all rock format in their market.. If it's not played on a mass appeal station....it will only fit for the narrowcast listener who will only purchase it. And the results usually are that it doesn't chart fairly or at all, ... and yes.... Nickleback will take over or contuinue as the greatest band of all time. I believe you can have Guns N' Roses fitting in on the same station today as Brittany Spears, Rhianna, All American Rejects, Marroon 5 etc.
It wasn't really not too long ago to have stations to want to be the first to play a no-brainer artist or famous artist FIRST in their market. But ...it's just one of the countless reasons why terrestrial and major labels will say bye bye.
 
I would agree to, It just like veteren artist releasing new materal. Such artists like Rush, Def leppard and Tom Petty had no airplay with there last 2 or 3 albums.Which in my opinion were better than the last Nickelback or 3 Doors Down album.
 
So Starbucks, you're essentially saying music radio exists solely to plug artists latest products? And the artist can expect promotion and airplay simply because they may have had a hit at some time in their career?
 
No, that's not what I said at all. The question or what this post is about....Is why wouldn't they? How can the public decide if somethings a hit or not if it's not played. There was a time when Springsteen would have 4-7 singles released from Album and they were played on Hot AC, AOR to CHR. There not even featured on Hot AC. Why would these artist want to still put something out. What can be wrong with Guns & Roses?
 
Some quick reasons a song wouldn't get airplay include:

1. PD thinks it's not good.
2. Doesn't fit the station format or image.
3. Negative listener/industry/advertiser feedback.
4. Complaints by listeners or influential others.
5. Negative history by artist(s).

Stations attract listeners, and thereby advertisers, by playing music the listeners like. Some listeners like hearing new material, most don't. Most stations will play something new then wait for audience reaction. If your artists are not getting airplay it's most likely due to a thumbs-down by listeners.

Artists put out new material because that's what they do. Not all of it is "good". Some artists just don't age well and others get too repetitive. Some fall out of favor due to external, non-musical reasons (negative publicity, bad behavior etc.). And others (GnR falls into this category IMHO) just were never that good.
 
part of what your saying is true....but these days veteran artist are even given chance. Songs from upcoming or veteran artist were developed by being played in small to medium to large. As far as higher record sales, the more airplay or add ons from the bigger stations. But everything is so centralized these days it takes one persons opinion if it's to be played or not. It's not the listeners thumbs down, they haven't been exposed to it. Let's face it...Hit Radio CHR, or Hot AC is doomed, and I'm one person who's glad even in these times seeing theses programmers and cluster chains getting the axe for ruining the radio and music business.
 
CHR in my market would never play the new G&R or any rock , they way lean to much in RAP and pop R&B. the days of true top 40 is over,what I was talking about in my first post was vetaran groups like RUSH and Def Leppard don't get there new materal played on ACTIVE ROCK stations, yes AC/DC did with there new album same way with Metallica ,but they don't want to play any new releases by G&N or any classic rock artist.
 
Starbucks said:
part of what your saying is true....but these days veteran artist are even given chance. Songs from upcoming or veteran artist were developed by being played in small to medium to large. As far as higher record sales, the more airplay or add ons from the bigger stations. But everything is so centralized these days it takes one persons opinion if it's to be played or not. It's not the listeners thumbs down, they haven't been exposed to it. Let's face it...Hit Radio CHR, or Hot AC is doomed, and I'm one person who's glad even in these times seeing theses programmers and cluster chains getting the axe for ruining the radio and music business.

I agree with your idea. We basically have two classic rock stations here in NYC (K-Rock, Q104.3) and one all-over-the-board station (RXP). K-Rock now primarily plays classic rock and the tired hits from the 90's and 00's with some (read: maybe once every 5 hours) new music thrown in there. Part of the reason you see a lack in new music is that the type of audience that actually wants to hear new music has long abandoned the radio to go through other channels since radio has become so tired and tight during the past 10 years. So, basically, you have truck drivers listening to rock stations who probably get annoyed when one of these new "queer" songs comes on and would appreciate it if the station "just stuck to the classics, maaaaaaan"
 
p_herring said:
landtuna said:
One person's "tired music" is another's "classic hits".

And we sink even further into the Lowest Common Denominator.

And, is whay a TV show like 2 1/2 Men gets such a high viewership.....

There are MANY more countless lowest commoners that we would ever want to know, personally.....

Art and Music can lift the people, or it can simply by the malaise on their sandwich of life.... the lowest common type of... "life"....

Coke and Pepsi and AT&T and Sprint wouldn't want tp miss a one of them !!!

People complained loudly to the FCC and their reginal "hearings"......

Things are much the same now.... Meet the New Boss..... same as the old Boss....
 
What ever happen to AOR radio, where music was tested, it does suck how music is decided, theres so many songs in my opinion that could have been hits.
 
Chinese Democracy - has some high moments, more so so moments. It's NOT GNR - it's Axel and others. Why no promotion? Well - they've been promoting it for how many years now? The title track was released months ago - got some play here on Delmarva - it's ok. They put the entire album up on their MySpace page at least 2 months ago. Unfortunately - radio's the last place to get it. For a lot of people it's already "been there, done that - next..."
 
logical explanation...but it's still the Guns N' Roses name and we should still decide buy lisrener request , cd sales, downloads, if should get plugged or played. Not by consultants.
 
TheRover said:
p_herring said:
landtuna said:
One person's "tired music" is another's "classic hits".

And we sink even further into the Lowest Common Denominator.

And, is whay a TV show like 2 1/2 Men gets such a high viewership.....

There are MANY more countless lowest commoners that we would ever want to know, personally.....

Art and Music can lift the people, or it can simply by the malaise on their sandwich of life.... the lowest common type of... "life"....

Coke and Pepsi and AT&T and Sprint wouldn't want tp miss a one of them !!!

People complained loudly to the FCC and their reginal "hearings"......

Things are much the same now.... Meet the New Boss..... same as the old Boss....

I understand but there ARE people out there who DON'T want the lowest common denominator. AND they may have more disposable income than your usual moron who thinks Nickelback is exciting. Is the former demographic not attractive at all to advertisers (you know, seeing as they may have money to spend)?
 
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