So for all of you that are running hd, what are you using (if anything) to process your talent headphone feed / studio monitor. I don't have anything without latency lying around.
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Headphone / Studio Monitor Processing
- Thread starter gettinbyagain
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At this point in time, I'm really surprised a manufacturer hasn't developed something yet specifically for this application.
We use the low latency output from the Optimod... I'm assuming you have a delay (HD or Profanity?)... In that case, I'd just build a cheap PC with an SSD and use Breakaway with the onboard sound.
chriscollins said:We use the low latency output from the Optimod... I'm assuming you have a delay (HD or Profanity?)... In that case, I'd just build a cheap PC with an SSD and use Breakaway with the onboard sound.
And what a treat the Breakaway would be for the on air person as their feed would sound better than the air signal!
;D
Smiths and Smittys said:chriscollins said:We use the low latency output from the Optimod... I'm assuming you have a delay (HD or Profanity?)... In that case, I'd just build a cheap PC with an SSD and use Breakaway with the onboard sound.
And what a treat the Breakaway would be for the on air person as their feed would sound better than the air signal!
;D
It would sound good... But you could build a cheap PC with Realtek sound and a $79 40 Gig Intel SSD. Around 500 bucks and you have not only a great monitor, but you could spit out a processed composite signal in a crunch. I'd do this long before I would rely on a used 8100. Mind you, that is if you are buying no matter what. Obviously, if you have a rack of 8100's laying around, it would then be first choice.
But there would still be a delay... I notice latency from about 4ms. I can work with it, but absolutely hate it on the headphones. Analog processing has no delay whatsoever. Love it! Orban 8100 is indeed great for monitoring. So is the Inovonics 250 or the Aphex Archain (simplest version is just a 320 Compellor with a 720 Dominator). Downside: you're not really monitoring levels with on-air processing...Smiths and Smittys said:And what a treat the Breakaway would be for the on air person as their feed would sound better than the air signal!chriscollins said:We use the low latency output from the Optimod... I'm assuming you have a delay (HD or Profanity?)... In that case, I'd just build a cheap PC with an SSD and use Breakaway with the onboard sound.
;D
richard.vanderveen said:But there would still be a delay... I notice latency from about 4ms. I can work with it, but absolutely hate it on the headphones. Analog processing has no delay whatsoever. Love it! Orban 8100 is indeed great for monitoring. So is the Inovonics 250 or the Aphex Archain (simplest version is just a 320 Compellor with a 720 Dominator). Downside: you're not really monitoring levels with on-air processing...Smiths and Smittys said:And what a treat the Breakaway would be for the on air person as their feed would sound better than the air signal!chriscollins said:We use the low latency output from the Optimod... I'm assuming you have a delay (HD or Profanity?)... In that case, I'd just build a cheap PC with an SSD and use Breakaway with the onboard sound.
;D
Breakaway Live was designed for this purpose.
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So? There is still latency to consider...Robert Bass said:Breakaway Live was designed for this purpose.richard.vanderveen said:But there would still be a delay... I notice latency from about 4ms. I can work with it, but absolutely hate it on the headphones. Analog processing has no delay whatsoever. Love it! Orban 8100 is indeed great for monitoring. So is the Inovonics 250 or the Aphex Archain (simplest version is just a 320 Compellor with a 720 Dominator). Downside: you're not really monitoring levels with on-air processing...
Anything digital is going to have latency issues, no matter what. Just the simple act of A/D D/A conversion, if used, will introduce small amounts of delay. When you add any type of processing on top of it, you'll be at least a 3-4ms.
Used the "low latency" output from an Omnia.11 at one place that has live jocks all day. They hated it! Still too much latency and it was uncomfortable for them. After hearing a few days of bitching, I dug out the 8100 from storage and put that on. "WOW! What did you do to my headphones? They sound great!"
Also used a 2020MkIII set to flat for the stream and cans at another place. Worked well, sounded better than the 8100 in that application. Without preemphasis the 2020MkIII was a decent box. It was the HF limiter that killed it more than anything else, audio wise. It was the lack of being able to do simple upgrades via firmware that killed it function wise.
Used the "low latency" output from an Omnia.11 at one place that has live jocks all day. They hated it! Still too much latency and it was uncomfortable for them. After hearing a few days of bitching, I dug out the 8100 from storage and put that on. "WOW! What did you do to my headphones? They sound great!"
Also used a 2020MkIII set to flat for the stream and cans at another place. Worked well, sounded better than the 8100 in that application. Without preemphasis the 2020MkIII was a decent box. It was the HF limiter that killed it more than anything else, audio wise. It was the lack of being able to do simple upgrades via firmware that killed it function wise.
richard.vanderveen said:So? There is still latency to consider...Robert Bass said:Breakaway Live was designed for this purpose.richard.vanderveen said:But there would still be a delay... I notice latency from about 4ms. I can work with it, but absolutely hate it on the headphones. Analog processing has no delay whatsoever. Love it! Orban 8100 is indeed great for monitoring. So is the Inovonics 250 or the Aphex Archain (simplest version is just a 320 Compellor with a 720 Dominator). Downside: you're not really monitoring levels with on-air processing...
You didn't try the Ultra Low latency mode?
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Are you trying to tell me there is no latency in BL when using the ultra low _LATENCY_ mode?Robert Bass said:You didn't try the Ultra Low latency mode?richard.vanderveen said:So? There is still latency to consider...
I never said NO latency... I said ULTRA LOW latency. But I reread your earlier thread where you said you can't even handle 4ms of it, so BL isn't for you.
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I am an PD too. The low latency output on my Optimod does not cause me or any of my jocks any problems. I would imagine it is in the 5ms range. How old is the talent that can't deal with that? I have noticed that much older announcers can't get 'used' to the slight latency. I have two stations running the headphones from the low latency Optimod output for headphones and I've had no complaints.
If it gets over 10ms, it messes with me. I'm okay up to that point, though...
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