Over my many years of tuning across the radio dial here in Cincinnati, I don't recall ever picking up the Red Sox brodcasts. Many of the major league teams have a 50,000 watt AM station on their network, usually as the flagship station, which makes picking them up at long range much easier. Are the Red Sox brodcasts easily received around New England through various stations? Of course, I am familar with WBZ. I've heard the Celtics and, I think, the Patriots on that station. Have the Sox ever come close to getting their games on that outlet?
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Hearing Red Sox Broadcasts
- Thread starter Cincinnati Kid
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The best shot of getting the redsox out your way would be WTIC 1080 at night. WRKO 680 is the flagship station except for Wednesdays when its on 850 WEEI. Both are 50,000 watts but directional out to sea over the atlantic. Most of the other stations that cover the redsox out in our market at small 10,000 watt stations or less. Hope this helps.
Thank you. Is there any explanation as to why a station would have a powerful signal being directed out to sea? How many people would there be out there listening to the happenings of Kevin Youkilis, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and company?
I've picked up WTIC when visiting a friend in Akron.
k said:
WEEI's nighttime pattern: http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/AM_DA_patterns/305498-3018.pdf
WRKO's nighttime pattern: http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/AM_DA_patterns/115322-2147.pdf
Neither one of those signals are "directional out to sea." They operate from sites west or northwest of Boston, and direct their signals toward the city of license. The fact that the ocean is beyond Boston from those sites does not mean that they're directional "out to sea."
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Nizam
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http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WEEI&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WEEI&service=AM&status=L&hours=N
As you can see, using the methods Radio Locators uses, WEEI AM's Signal is Directional. Out to Sea.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WEEI&service=AM&status=L&hours=N
As you can see, using the methods Radio Locators uses, WEEI AM's Signal is Directional. Out to Sea.
dumber than a box of hair said:
If the Atlantic Ocean is beyond Boston in the direction that the bulk of their nighttime signals are directed, and people have reported hearing them in England but not in Worcester MA, then their night signals are effectively "directional out to sea" after they cover Boston, their city of license, which happens to be on a patch of land in between their transmitters and the ocean.
Nizam said:
That's why I use FCC data, not the fantasies that radio-locator engages in. Coverage "out to sea" is irrelevant, especially to the OP's question. The radio-locator map assumes and maps the contours over the ocean because of sea water's very high conductivity...not because that coverage is relevant to anything at all.
Eli Polonsky said:
That's BS and you know it. Ever hear of "skywave" propagation? Signal coverage of Boston stations in England is irrelevant for a number of reasons, as is coverage in the ocean.
The signals don't cover Worcester because 1) there's no sea-water in the direction of Worcester, and 2) there are nulls in the directional patterns in that direction.
WRKO can be a powerhouse into Maine and, I'd bet it comes in well in Canada's Maritime Provinces too. It is not uncommon for coastal cities to be served by 50 kw directional "blowtorches" that are located inland from the city and that beam over it. This serves to reduce interference with inland stations.
In WRKO's case, stations in Baltimore (WCBM), Toronto (CFTR), Binghamton, NY (WINR) and even San Francisco (KNBR) need to be protected. WEEI is directional eastward to protect signals in Cleveland and Denver (among others). And, don't forget WCRN 830 from Worcester, which is another 50 kw "Red Sox" signal that is directional to the east to protect signals in places like Minneapolis (WCCO) and Reading, PA (WEEU).
So, the net result is that the 'Sox are available all over the dial in Halifax, St. John, pretty much all of Maine, and to ships at sea - but are really limited anywhere west of the New York border.
The only Red Sox affiliate that can be heard on the radio to the west of New England is WTIC 1080 - which is where I now hear the games in PA. That station should be available at night (at varying signal quality) from roughly Atlanta to Chicago and eastward. Farther west, you'd probably get KRLD Dallas on 1080 instead.
In WRKO's case, stations in Baltimore (WCBM), Toronto (CFTR), Binghamton, NY (WINR) and even San Francisco (KNBR) need to be protected. WEEI is directional eastward to protect signals in Cleveland and Denver (among others). And, don't forget WCRN 830 from Worcester, which is another 50 kw "Red Sox" signal that is directional to the east to protect signals in places like Minneapolis (WCCO) and Reading, PA (WEEU).
So, the net result is that the 'Sox are available all over the dial in Halifax, St. John, pretty much all of Maine, and to ships at sea - but are really limited anywhere west of the New York border.
The only Red Sox affiliate that can be heard on the radio to the west of New England is WTIC 1080 - which is where I now hear the games in PA. That station should be available at night (at varying signal quality) from roughly Atlanta to Chicago and eastward. Farther west, you'd probably get KRLD Dallas on 1080 instead.
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The games I'm sure will be on either Westwood One or ESPN Radio. If this is like the 2004 series, only WEEI / WRKO will have the local feed and the affiliates will have to take the national feed.. So your local station will have what most local New England affiliates will have for their listeners.
Jo Jo Kracko said:
In addition, XM is offering home local and away local along with Spanish and national broadcasts of the World Series. As has been mentioned, up here in Maine we have many choices of frequencies for the Sox. Can't wait till Wednesday night.
Rich
ESPN Radio. Boston Radio Watch mentioned that only WRKO or WEEI will carry Sox network. Otherwise
your only choice (this includes Worc./Metro-west) is ESPN affiliates for their call.
your only choice (this includes Worc./Metro-west) is ESPN affiliates for their call.
MLB only allows the flagship station to carry the home team broadcast of World Series games over the air. If affiliates want to broadcast the game they must carry the network feed. This is to protect the interest of MLB, ESPN and it's exclusive World Series broadcast package. WRKO (or is it WEEI?) will be the only station to have Joe C's call.
I've never had any luck DX-ing those stations here in Albany. WTIC carries the regular season games and comes in fine after dark.
Fortunately, I have XM and will have access to:
a) WRKO Boston
b) KOA Denver
c) ESPN National Feed broadcasts
d) XM 156, Oprah and Friends... where us Yankee fans can go to soothe our bruised allegiances... :'(
I've never had any luck DX-ing those stations here in Albany. WTIC carries the regular season games and comes in fine after dark.
Fortunately, I have XM and will have access to:
a) WRKO Boston
b) KOA Denver
c) ESPN National Feed broadcasts
d) XM 156, Oprah and Friends... where us Yankee fans can go to soothe our bruised allegiances... :'(
raccoonradio said:
Forgot about this. It's been a long time since '04. Glad they're on RKO as it throws a much better signal into Portland than 'EEI.
On a related issue, what's going to happen to Sox on EEI when they expand the network on Nassau stations in New England. Heard it's happening on Jan 1 to three frequencies in this area.
apparently WEEI only has game 1 and game 6...?
dumber than a box of hair said:
Of course, reception in England is via skywave over sea water. Stations tend to skywave much more in the directions that their patterns are aimed. They may also skywave a bit in null directions, but not nearly as much. It still proves that the bulk of their signals are aimed at, after Boston, the Atlantic Ocean.
dumber than a box of hair said:
Exactly! And, the direction in which their nighttime signals aren't nulled is toward Boston, and beyond that, right "out to sea". Some of their signals also go north and/or south to some extent, especially up the northern New England coast and toward the Maritimes, but the largest amount of their power is directed eastward from their sites toward Boston, beyond which, it heads right for the fish.
PortlandMainer said:
Last I heard that deadline has been pushed back indefinitely.
BRNout said:
Well.... There's a local ethnic operation on 1080 here in suburban Chicago. The signal's not great, but its enough to dominate the channel. Even before that came on the air, WTIC was pretty much inaudible in this area. KRLD was(is) pretty faint, but still stronger than WTIC. (As for WRKO, I've never heard it here. If you can ever pull anything out from under our local 670 blowtorch, its usually either CFTR, WPTF, or KFEQ. 'BZ is the only New England regular in these parts.)
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