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Hearing WWSZ at 1600 kHz near Cincinnati

J

Jeff_Davis

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I live on the Kentucky side near Union in the Cincinnati area and I was hearing the guys broadcasting live from a bar near Cardinal Stadium today. (I hear they have good wings). WWSZ was coming in very loud and clear at 1600 kHz, but just barely audible on 1570 where it should be. Is there a simulcast or a weird engineering physics lesson here? I must say it was nice to hear a small station doing a live, local show on a Saturday midday.
 
You're probably hearing WTSZ-AM 1600 from Eminence, KY. I think it's a simulcast of WWSZ 1570 AM to try to cover the eastern suburbs of Louisville a little better, and also Shelbyville and Frankfort
 
KYradioJake said:
You're probably hearing WTSZ-AM 1600 from Eminence, KY. I think it's a simulcast of WWSZ 1570 AM to try to cover the eastern suburbs of Louisville a little better, and also Shelbyville and Frankfort
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Actually, 1600 WTSZ licensed to Eminence was the first, starting out with an ESPN Radio broadcast in 2003. 1570 WWSZ licensed to New Albany was added in 2004, and they are simulcasting from studios at Third and Jefferson St in Louisville. ESPN did not renew the affiliation agreement with the station and they picked up Sporting News Radio earlier this year.
 
Sad that ESPN drops the little guys, again... Anyone picking it up in L'ville.. Fox has had the edge with centered regional AM with a good groundwave (WKRD, the old Super 79/WAKY dial position)... If the network had supported them with some good advice and promotional help, they could have been more effective... I know they are looking for volunteer high school and college interns to keep them alive.. They could pick up Jeffersonville sports now that Cumulus has bought out Susquahanna's 1450/WAVG (former WVXW)... They dumped Jeff Sports in the middle of the highly sold football playoffs.. A local cable group sold time to the broadcast crew to do a delay for cable at the second round of the football playoffs.. I suggested they look at the guys at 1570 to sell them time.. Or Way might consider when they pop on after the first of the year at 104.3... Alot of underwriting goes to New Albany and Floyd Central sports on 88.1 WNAS at New Albany High and 1570 could get some good local cash going with the 1570 doing a breakaway from 1600, with Clarksville and Jeffersonville sports.. If I had 1570, I'd just go SOUTHERN INDIANA NEWS/SPORTS and not worry about across the river...The night lobe covers the population on the Indiana side, with the exception of Harrison County.. WKLO does the local sports at that location...
 
Thanks fo rthe info. After looking at WTSZ on Radio-Locator, that was definitely the groundwave I was picking up.
 
skippertthomas said:
Sad that ESPN drops the little guys, again... Anyone picking it up in L'ville.. Fox has had the edge with centered regional AM with a good groundwave (WKRD, the old Super 79/WAKY dial position)... If the network had supported them with some good advice and promotional help, they could have been more effective... I know they are looking for volunteer high school and college interns to keep them alive.. They could pick up Jeffersonville sports now that Cumulus has bought out Susquahanna's 1450/WAVG (former WVXW)... They dumped Jeff Sports in the middle of the highly sold football playoffs.. A local cable group sold time to the broadcast crew to do a delay for cable at the second round of the football playoffs.. I suggested they look at the guys at 1570 to sell them time.. Or Way might consider when they pop on after the first of the year at 104.3... Alot of underwriting goes to New Albany and Floyd Central sports on 88.1 WNAS at New Albany High and 1570 could get some good local cash going with the 1570 doing a breakaway from 1600, with Clarksville and Jeffersonville sports.. If I had 1570, I'd just go SOUTHERN INDIANA NEWS/SPORTS and not worry about across the river...The night lobe covers the population on the Indiana side, with the exception of Harrison County.. WKLO does the local sports at that location...
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Worth adding that the rumor keeps floating to the surface that 93.9/Sellersburg/Louisville will be ESPN. That might expalin why the 1570/1600 ESPN contract wasn't renewed.
 
I love what 1570/1600 is doing and it seems like they are getting a lot of sponsors. BUT, why in the world would Cumulus bring in a 3rd sports station to the market???
 
talkproducer said:
I love what 1570/1600 is doing and it seems like they are getting a lot of sponsors. BUT, why in the world would Cumulus bring in a 3rd sports station to the market???
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Simply put, satellite sports is relatively cheap to run, and it's one of the easiest formats to sell. If Cumulus is just going to have one station in Louisville (aside from WAVG 1450), it makes pretty good sense from a business standpoint. Although I hate the idea of running sports on FM, I can understand why a smaller cluster would do it.
 
Kent said:
talkproducer said:
I love what 1570/1600 is doing and it seems like they are getting a lot of sponsors. BUT, why in the world would Cumulus bring in a 3rd sports station to the market???
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Simply put, satellite sports is relatively cheap to run, and it's one of the easiest formats to sell. If Cumulus is just going to have one station in Louisville (aside from WAVG 1450), it makes pretty good sense from a business standpoint. Although I hate the idea of running sports on FM, I can understand why a smaller cluster would do it.
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True, and what skipper said is also very true. They can split the stations off with 1570 doing southern Indiana and 1600 covering Shelby/Henry/Oldham sports. The problem, is paying the people to do the work. It's a very tight budget over there right now.
 
Yes, I heard a very good source on the 1450/93.9 ESPN thing... "Sorry, you're small and we're going with the big boys, continues"... On the local sports, you can sell the time and let the boosters do the second sell.. That's what the Jeff Sports guys want to do for Football/Basketball.. It would be easy to do that with Oldham County, as well, on 1600.... We buy our time by the game with a Class "A" fm over here for Oakland City University...We sell out the coach's show, pregame/postgame and game sponsors... Our flagship takes the bucks, pays a board op and we pay any phone charges, incured, not on comp lines and cell.... I would also be 'full service' news, sports and Southern Indiana for 1570 and Metro East for 1600.....If WBNL can do it in Boonville (next to Evansville) and bill 20 to 25K a month, then Southern Indiana could support the same full service....
 
talkproducer said:
I love what 1570/1600 is doing and it seems like they are getting a lot of sponsors. BUT, why in the world would Cumulus bring in a 3rd sports station to the market???
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I don't know why 93.9 did it, but I'm glad they did. There are a substantial number of transplants in this area who don't give a rats a** about UK/UL football and basketball and don't want to hear about it ad nauseum. We are into things like Major League Baseball and the NFL and sports at a national level and are thrilled to have ESPN radio back.

I stumbled upon the station by accident Friday night, and I've already converted a dozen of my friends from 1570 to 93.9.
 
cabiness42 said:
talkproducer said:
I love what 1570/1600 is doing and it seems like they are getting a lot of sponsors. BUT, why in the world would Cumulus bring in a 3rd sports station to the market???
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I don't know why 93.9 did it, but I'm glad they did. There are a substantial number of transplants in this area who don't give a rats a** about UK/UL football and basketball and don't want to hear about it ad nauseum. We are into things like Major League Baseball and the NFL and sports at a national level and are thrilled to have ESPN radio back.

I stumbled upon the station by accident Friday night, and I've already converted a dozen of my friends from 1570 to 93.9.
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Did you ever try calling into the station to talk about these things? Perhaps they would welcome some outside opinions.
 
kyscott said:
cabiness42 said:
talkproducer said:
I love what 1570/1600 is doing and it seems like they are getting a lot of sponsors. BUT, why in the world would Cumulus bring in a 3rd sports station to the market???
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I don't know why 93.9 did it, but I'm glad they did. There are a substantial number of transplants in this area who don't give a rats a** about UK/UL football and basketball and don't want to hear about it ad nauseum. We are into things like Major League Baseball and the NFL and sports at a national level and are thrilled to have ESPN radio back.

I stumbled upon the station by accident Friday night, and I've already converted a dozen of my friends from 1570 to 93.9.
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Did you ever try calling into the station to talk about these things? Perhaps they would welcome some outside opinions.
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During their brief stint as an ESPN affiliate, I emailed them and mentioned that Mike&Mike was my all-time favorite radio show, and that I really hoped they didn't replace them with a local morning show.

The very next week, they were replaced with a local morning show.
 
cabiness42 said:
kyscott said:
cabiness42 said:
talkproducer said:
I love what 1570/1600 is doing and it seems like they are getting a lot of sponsors. BUT, why in the world would Cumulus bring in a 3rd sports station to the market???
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I don't know why 93.9 did it, but I'm glad they did. There are a substantial number of transplants in this area who don't give a rats a** about UK/UL football and basketball and don't want to hear about it ad nauseum. We are into things like Major League Baseball and the NFL and sports at a national level and are thrilled to have ESPN radio back.

I stumbled upon the station by accident Friday night, and I've already converted a dozen of my friends from 1570 to 93.9.
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Did you ever try calling into the station to talk about these things? Perhaps they would welcome some outside opinions.
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During their brief stint as an ESPN affiliate, I emailed them and mentioned that Mike&Mike was my all-time favorite radio show, and that I really hoped they didn't replace them with a local morning show.

The very next week, they were replaced with a local morning show.
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They didn't have a choice. ESPN pulled their affiliation with them to go with the new Cumulus stations. Again, have you CALLED their shows and tried to interject something interesting to you?
 
Yes, I've called in a couple times wanting to talk baseball. I was told that baseball just wasn't a topic of local interest.
 
cabiness42 said:
Yes, I've called in a couple times wanting to talk baseball. I was told that baseball just wasn't a topic of local interest.
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I beg to differ with the Reds and their AAA affiliate here in town. But at least you tried.
 
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