Hello from a newbie...Long winded old radio tape collection question

[davideduardo]

But that can happen for any number of reasons. How do you know for sure it's because ASCAP/BMI/etc. came after them asking for royalties?

Because they posted it at the time. Just as they are posting about the book copyright notices this week.

And, also, because a friend who had submitted airchecks told me they had been removed "until someone edits out the music".

 

[andyjon100]

At least my father edited the music out of his tapes, probably to save tape because he recorded at 7.5..... Lee recorded at 3.75 and ran right to the end, music and all.

 

[CAVEMANager]

Andyjon mentioned that George Lorenz had a girlfriend, and maybe a little WBLK history would be interesting to some: WBLK's founder was George F. Lorenz who was known as the Hound Dog long before Elvis plugged that breed. Lorenz was an extremely talented personality and he did much to bridge the gap between black and white in Western New York. In the late 1950s while he was at WKBW George started a weekly newsletter that was sent to radio stations all over the nation. It was named "Behind the Scenes" . Supposedly the publishers were Mike and Mickey Turntable. Mike was Lorenz while Mickey was actually Joyce Kociencki who was from Sloan. Joyce was very attractive and 20 years younger than George. It was widely known that the relationship between George and Ms Turntable transcended business. One day in May of 1972 George went home to take a nap but he never woke up. His son, Frank, took over WBLK, made it profitable, and sold it for $8 million. Meanwhile Frank married Mickey Turntable but the relationship ended after a few years. Mickey got to keep Behind the Scenes and she hooked up with another man. She would die of cancer and Tony got "Scenes" which soon went out of business. Later two of George's grandsons would start a Hound Dog web site to honor his memory. It has many airchecks and other material, some of which I provided. It can be found at HounddogLorenz.com. I recommend it to anyone interested in Buffalo radio history.

 

[davideduardo]

Andyjon mentioned that George Lorenz had a girlfriend, and maybe a little WBLK history would be interesting to some: WBLK's founder was George F. Lorenz who was known as the Hound Dog long before Elvis plugged that breed. Lorenz was an extremely talented personality and he did much to bridge the gap between black and white in Western New York. In the late 1950s while he was at WKBW George started a weekly newsletter that was sent to radio stations all over the nation. It was named "Behind the Scenes" . Supposedly the publishers were Mike and Mickey Turntable. Mike was Lorenz while Mickey was actually Joyce Kociencki who was from Sloan. Joyce was very attractive and 20 years younger than George. It was widely known that the relationship between George and Ms Turntable transcended business. One day in May of 1972 George went home to take a nap but he never woke up. His son, Frank, took over WBLK, made it profitable, and sold it for $8 million. Meanwhile Frank married Mickey Turntable but the relationship ended after a few years. Mickey got to keep Behind the Scenes and she hooked up with another man. She would die of cancer and Tony got "Scenes" which soon went out of business. Later two of George's grandsons would start a Hound Dog web site to honor his memory. It has many airchecks and other material, some of which I provided. It can be found at HounddogLorenz.com. I recommend it to anyone interested in Buffalo radio history.

Does anyone have any of the old issues of Behind the Scenes?

 

[Nick Seneca]

You've aroused some memories

Hi Andy....

You brought up a couple of names that I remember from my youth. I remember Lee Forster well as a country singer and air personality. I recall hearing him on WMMJ. Sometime in the early 70s, I was a kid working evenings on WWOL. Lee called me just to say hello. He was so kind and so complementary about my performance as a country music air personality! I was stunned and flattered. The memory remains vivid today.

A few years earlier, '64 or '65 ish, I persuaded my parents to buy an FM stereo radio so I could hear all these mysterious Buffalo stations unavailable to me on our AM radios. I loved quirky WBLK with its weird gumbo of country, polkas, r & b, and top 40. I remember Ernie Jones real well. He was on 5 - 7 PM right before the Hound. His theme song was Bill Justis' "Raunchy." I remember his great voice and really enjoying him as an air personality!

Good memories from the days of my nascent lifelong fasciation with radio.

Nick Seneca
Palm Springs, CA.

 

[andyjon100]

Lee was an amazingly nice guy, and funny as hell. He had this huge infectious smile, as well as a booming infectious laugh. His wife Ruby Lee was my paternal grandmother's sister. They met when she came to audition for his show in the mid '50s, and were together until she died in 1996. He got out of radio, and they traveled around as a country western duo, performing all over. They had a long running seasonal gig at Fantasy Island, I believe in the '60s and/or '70s. My father was a great guy, too. I still miss him after almost 30 years gone. He was mellow and laid back, funny and silly - but imagine getting yelled at with that deep booming radio voice as a kid when you got in trouble! He was on both before the Hound from 5pm-7pm, and after, from 11pm-1am. The only full show tape I have of him was an 11-1 show, recorded June 26 -27, 1965 - a show dedicated to talking about Jimmy Reed. He DID have a great voice, as did Lee. I still have a pair of Granco FM stereo only radios that were given away to promote WBLK when it went on the air.

 

[CAVEMANager]

So how might an interested person receive a dub of the much promoted Ernie Jones tapes?