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Jets885sports

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Checking the scoreboard, it's safe to say 560 is on life support even with a stronger signal. Here's the problem...560's sister station 810 has a killer daytime signal which is being wasted on Spanish pop. The only reason 810 is where they are right now is because of that signal. Here's what needs to be done...

560 - WMGC
810 - WNSR

810's listeners will follow their format the same way as oldies listeners moved up the dial to 97.1, or flip to either 1380, 1200, or 1130 (I actually prefer 1130 because it's similar to The Fish).

Does anybody think this will work?
 
What about nights? 810 is barely audible in Rutherford county at night. In fact 560 and 810 simulcast after dark right now.

> Checking the scoreboard, it's safe to say 560 is on life
> support even with a stronger signal. Here's the
> problem...560's sister station 810 has a killer daytime
> signal which is being wasted on Spanish pop. The only reason
> 810 is where they are right now is because of that signal.
> Here's what needs to be done...
>
> 560 - WMGC
> 810 - WNSR
>
> 810's listeners will follow their format the same way as
> oldies listeners moved up the dial to 97.1, or flip to
> either 1380, 1200, or 1130 (I actually prefer 1130 because
> it's similar to The Fish).
>
> Does anybody think this will work?
>
 
810 has a great signal at night but 560 now has a much better signal days. 560 is 5kw and I hear this in Dothan Alabama and in Bowling Green Kentucky better than the locals.

If they ahdn't upgraded from 500 watts you might be right at that time. Now clearly the best sports signal in the market. Can't see why ESPN went to a 3 kw FM with a 32 mile across signal to replace WNSR.

Wait, is this why there is some thought this may have been a RICO (Racketeering Influence Corrupt Organization) related deal with the Dickey's? Is this why the DOJ is involved?

No, it makes no sense for 560 to move their programming from a robust signal to 810 (and with 10 watts at night).

No, it made no sense for ABC and ESPN to switch their programming froma great signal to a so so signal.





> What about nights? 810 is barely audible in Rutherford
> county at night. In fact 560 and 810 simulcast after dark
> right now.
>
> > Checking the scoreboard, it's safe to say 560 is on life
> > support even with a stronger signal. Here's the
> > problem...560's sister station 810 has a killer daytime
> > signal which is being wasted on Spanish pop. The only
> reason
> > 810 is where they are right now is because of that signal.
>
> > Here's what needs to be done...
> >
> > 560 - WMGC
> > 810 - WNSR
> >
> > 810's listeners will follow their format the same way as
> > oldies listeners moved up the dial to 97.1, or flip to
> > either 1380, 1200, or 1130 (I actually prefer 1130 because
>
> > it's similar to The Fish).
> >
> > Does anybody think this will work?
> >
>
 
> Checking the scoreboard, it's safe to say 560 is on life
> support even with a stronger signal. Here's the
> problem...560's sister station 810 has a killer daytime
> signal which is being wasted on Spanish pop. The only reason
> 810 is where they are right now is because of that signal.
> Here's what needs to be done...
>
> 560 - WMGC
> 810 - WNSR
>
> 810's listeners will follow their format the same way as
> oldies listeners moved up the dial to 97.1, or flip to
> either 1380, 1200, or 1130 (I actually prefer 1130 because
> it's similar to The Fish).
>
> Does anybody think this will work?
>
I don't know how such a flip would affect WMGC or Nashville-area Spanish-language radio in general, but it would do WNSR more harm than good, if for no other reason than that WMGC's antenna is farther from downtown Nashville than either of WNSR's antenna sites (a four-tower directional daytime antenna in Williamson County and the nondirectional tower on the Trevecca Nazarene University campus that WNSR uses at night).

Nonetheless, WNSR's technical situation can and should be improved. The fact is that WNSR, which didn't launch until the mid '80s (as WWCR "Car 56"), is way too close to both the much older 560 in Memphis (WHBQ) and an older 540 kHz station in Clarksville (WKFN). If I bought WNSR, the first thing I'd do is try to buy WKFN, shut down that station, and move WNSR to either 540 or 550 kHz. That way, WNSR could possibly have a stronger and/or less directional daytime signal, and there might even be plenty of room for a decent nighttime signal on WNSR (even if the station has to switch back to directional operation at night).<P ID="signature">______________
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> 810 has a great signal at night but 560 now has a much
> better signal days. 560 is 5kw and I hear this in Dothan
> Alabama and in Bowling Green Kentucky better than the
> locals.
>
> If they ahdn't upgraded from 500 watts you might be right at
> that time. Now clearly the best sports signal in the market.
> Can't see why ESPN went to a 3 kw FM with a 32 mile across
> signal to replace WNSR.
>
> Wait, is this why there is some thought this may have been a
> RICO (Racketeering Influence Corrupt Organization) related
> deal with the Dickey's? Is this why the DOJ is involved?
>
> No, it makes no sense for 560 to move their programming from
> a robust signal to 810 (and with 10 watts at night).
>
> No, it made no sense for ABC and ESPN to switch their
> programming froma great signal to a so so signal.
>
>
>
>
>
> > What about nights? 810 is barely audible in Rutherford
> > county at night. In fact 560 and 810 simulcast after dark
>
> > right now.
> >
> > > Checking the scoreboard, it's safe to say 560 is on life
>
> > > support even with a stronger signal. Here's the
> > > problem...560's sister station 810 has a killer daytime
> > > signal which is being wasted on Spanish pop. The only
> > reason
> > > 810 is where they are right now is because of that
> signal.
> >
> > > Here's what needs to be done...
> > >
> > > 560 - WMGC
> > > 810 - WNSR
> > >
> > > 810's listeners will follow their format the same way as
>
> > > oldies listeners moved up the dial to 97.1, or flip to
> > > either 1380, 1200, or 1130 (I actually prefer 1130
> because
> >
> > > it's similar to The Fish).
> > >
> > > Does anybody think this will work?
> > >
> >
>

Don't forget that 560 also will be broadcasting some of the Predators games; Most of these will probably be at night.
 
> Checking the scoreboard, it's safe to say 560 is on life
> support even with a stronger signal. Here's the
> problem...560's sister station 810 has a killer daytime
> signal which is being wasted on Spanish pop. The only reason
> 810 is where they are right now is because of that signal.
> Here's what needs to be done...
>
> 560 - WMGC
> 810 - WNSR

Well, check that same scoreboard and you'll see WMGC doing better than WNSR, so why make the switch? But wait a few months. With a major player in Hispanic radio coming into town with the purchase of two AMs, will WMGC be able to compete for Hispanic advertising dollars? Maybe in a year or so we'll hear SportsRadio (TM) all day on 560 and 810.
 
> > Checking the scoreboard, it's safe to say 560 is on life
> > support even with a stronger signal. Here's the
> > problem...560's sister station 810 has a killer daytime
> > signal which is being wasted on Spanish pop. The only
> reason
> > 810 is where they are right now is because of that signal.
>
> > Here's what needs to be done...
> >
> > 560 - WMGC
> > 810 - WNSR
>
> Well, check that same scoreboard and you'll see WMGC doing
> better than WNSR, so why make the switch? But wait a few
> months. With a major player in Hispanic radio coming into
> town with the purchase of two AMs, will WMGC be able to
> compete for Hispanic advertising dollars? Maybe in a year or
> so we'll hear SportsRadio (TM) all day on 560 and 810.
>
I can think of one thing that may cause WMGC to remain "La Sabrosita" even after (and if) Davidson fully absorbs WMDB and WNSG -- the sale of 1160 WAMB to Christian broadcaster Bott Radio Network. Bill Barry is retaining the rights to the WAMB call letters, which suggests to me that Barry may soon move the WAMB calls and format to currently Spanish-language 1200 WKDA, which he owns jointly with his wife and his stepson.

Furthermore, WMGC's ratings advantage over WNSR, even though WMGC is more of a rimshot to Nashville than WNSR is, actually makes a potent argument for both 560 and 810 being "La Sabrosita" all day and all night. Thankfully for us English-speaking sports radio junkies, Randolph Bell (majority owner of WNSR and WMGC) and Ted Johnson (WNSR's general manager) seem to have too strong and too personal a commitment to sports programming to let that happen.<P ID="signature">______________
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> 810 has a great signal at night but 560 now has a much
> better signal days.
>
WNSR's nighttime signal, while nothing to shout about, is also superior to WMGC's -- not to mention less of a rimshot -- for most people in the Nashville area. While the nighttime signal from WMGC's nondirectional tower has only 6 watts to work with, WNSR operates at night with a 75-watt nondirectional signal from the Trevecca Nazarene University radio tower just southeast of downtown Nashville.

> If they hadn't upgraded from 500 watts you might be right at
> that time. Now clearly the best sports signal in the market.
>
The Zone, now that it no longer has any non-sports programs that are not brokered, might beg to differ with that statement.

> No, it makes no sense for 560 to move their programming from
> a robust signal to 810 (and with 10 watts at night).
>
> No, it made no sense for ABC and ESPN to switch their
> programming from a great signal to a so so signal.
>
Amen.
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> I can think of one thing that may cause WMGC to remain "La
> Sabrosita" even after (and if) Davidson fully absorbs WMDB
> and WNSG -- the sale of 1160 WAMB to Christian broadcaster
> Bott Radio Network. Bill Barry is retaining the rights to
> the WAMB call letters, which suggests to me that Barry may
> soon move the WAMB calls and format to currently
> Spanish-language 1200 WKDA, which he owns jointly with his
> wife and his stepson.

I think you're on to something there. Your comments jolted my memory about the CP moving 1200 from a 10,000 watt daytime only to a 50k daytimer and 90 watt nighttimer (but from four sticks, no less). While that would be a drop from WAMB's 1k at night, at least it wouldn't have the interference Barry always claimed 1160 had.

So if the WAMB calls are moved to 1200, what of the heritage WKDA calls? Don't know if any of the ownership would really be interested, but I could see a case made for the WKDA calls to be grabbed for either 97.1, 105.9, or 104.5.
 
> > No, it made no sense for ABC and ESPN to switch their
> > programming from a great signal to a so so signal.
> >
> Amen.

Signal power wasn't the issue in that switch -- leverage power was. Clearly a case of Big Radio wielding the power of its many stations to take from the little guy, no?
 
> > > No, it made no sense for ABC and ESPN to switch their
> > > programming from a great signal to a so so signal.
> > >
> > Amen.
>
> Signal power wasn't the issue in that switch -- leverage
> power was. Clearly a case of Big Radio wielding the power of
> its many stations to take from the little guy, no?
>
I'm sure that was kilowatt's point, and it definitely is mine. If nothing else, it's a shame that the WNSR-Cumulus suit won't go to trial until next August, because justice can't come soon enough for a station as unjustly aggrieved as WNSR.<P ID="signature">______________
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Wonder when the Cumulous stockholders will find out about the suit. Also alleges Federal restraint of trade.

One of the interesting things is the judge kept the case in Fed Court in TN. Didn't move to New York or Atlanta.

Dumping on affiliates seems to be the way this has been done for some time. Wonder when someone will realize this isn't legal?

How many Dickeys made this happen? The bros are all defendants and one of the brothers is General manager of the cluster but not one of the officers. Wonder if his olders brothers will make him the sacrifice? Course he didn't make the deal , his big brother did, right?

> > > > No, it made no sense for ABC and ESPN to switch their
> > > > programming from a great signal to a so so signal.
> > > >
> > > Amen.
> >
> > Signal power wasn't the issue in that switch -- leverage
> > power was. Clearly a case of Big Radio wielding the power
> of
> > its many stations to take from the little guy, no?
> >
> I'm sure that was kilowatt's point, and it definitely is
> mine. If nothing else, it's a shame that the WNSR-Cumulus
> suit won't go to trial until next August, because justice
> can't come soon enough for a station as unjustly aggrieved
> as WNSR.
>
 
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