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Since the TLJ vs Barnes thread was nipped in the bud. And I respect Jay's decesion to do so. I was wondering what you guys, and gals think would help DAVE-FM pull itself out of the basement. Only stipulation "NO FORMAT CHANGE".<P ID="signature">______________
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> Since the TLJ vs Barnes thread was nipped in the bud. And I
> respect Jay's decesion to do so. I was wondering what you
> guys, and gals think would help DAVE-FM pull itself out of
> the basement. Only stipulation "NO FORMAT CHANGE".
>
It's a station that demographically, I should be liking. For whatever reason, things that work elsewhere seem to not work in Atlanta (for instance, John Boy & Billy). iPod Radio as a format may be another example of such a thing. But since I'm not allowed to change formats, I'd say put a funner morning show on vs. a "hipper than thou" approach.
 
To be honest hang the dj's.. ALL OF THEM..
Bring the Falcons more into the mix with some Wes Durham..

I think Steve Craig would be more in line there.. I like the music, not the personalities..
 
> I think Steve Craig would be more in line there.. I like the
> music, not the personalities..
>

I've professed my "like" for Steve before-- best in the market (however, that says very little).

I'm not even sure if I can NAME the Dave jocks. I know Mara because she was there when it was Z93 but, as stated by someone before, she is less enjoyable to listen to now.

I don't know if there's fear or apathy or cronic floating around the station, but the jock's seem about as engaging as game show hosts. But, oddly, in the EXACT same manner. Does that make sense? Makes me think it may not be them.
 
> Since the TLJ vs Barnes thread was nipped in the bud. And I
> respect Jay's decesion to do so. I was wondering what you
> guys, and gals think would help DAVE-FM pull itself out of
> the basement. Only stipulation "NO FORMAT CHANGE".
>

I've tried a few times to get into Dave, but the playlist is just too narrow for my tastes. It seems like every time I flip over they're playing Dire Straits or Tom Petty. Double the playlist and get a little less predictable.
 
Mara does sound like someone is on the other side of the glass ready to hit her knuckles anytime she tries to be funny or engaging. Eric rattles off some non sequitirs and plays the next song. I do like Margot though. Barnes he is the robot he is, boring, droll and self-absorbed. In general they all seem so impersonal.

The playlist is hurting in my opinion. I llike Mark Knopfler's(Dire Straits) new album but must I hear it every hour. It seems to be skewing more older classic rock again but maybe it is because I just do not listen that much anymore.
 
Steve Craig, I hear, was wooed by Dave last year but he decided to stay with 99X and sign a new contract.

> > I think Steve Craig would be more in line there.. I like
> the
> > music, not the personalities..
> >
>
> I've professed my "like" for Steve before-- best in the
> market (however, that says very little).
>
> I'm not even sure if I can NAME the Dave jocks. I know Mara
> because she was there when it was Z93 but, as stated by
> someone before, she is less enjoyable to listen to now.
>
> I don't know if there's fear or apathy or cronic floating
> around the station, but the jock's seem about as engaging as
> game show hosts. But, oddly, in the EXACT same manner.
> Does that make sense? Makes me think it may not be them.
>
 
> Mara does sound like someone is on the other side of the
> glass ready to hit her knuckles anytime she tries to be
> funny or engaging. Eric rattles off some non sequitirs and
> plays the next song. I do like Margot though. Barnes he is
> the robot he is, boring, droll and self-absorbed. In general
> they all seem so impersonal.
>
> The playlist is hurting in my opinion. I llike Mark
> Knopfler's(Dire Straits) new album but must I hear it every
> hour. It seems to be skewing more older classic rock again
> but maybe it is because I just do not listen that much
> anymore.
>

I totally agree with this observation about the music skewing older. When Dave first flipped on, it seemed to stick to 99x's bread and butter playlists from the 90's and not venture any further than 80's. These days, seems like they're spinning far more classic stuff than they used to- almost seems like an older mix than they were playing in Z's last days (This is just my opinion, and I'm not in the biz, so I don't have statistics on this... I'm just stating what I have perceived).

I don't really like the jocks much either.. I was hoping that they'd put TRG on in the mornings (that idea fizzled when All Access arrived). So that's my vote.. Go back to the original Dave playlist, expand it a bit, get better jocks, and hopefully TRG!
 
Morning show needs to make people laugh. The current cast is not capable of eliciting laughter. As for Eric in PM drive, I have no beef with him; he's fine. But he seems like a budget-saver. Typical nothing-to-say patter: "I hear Pearl Jam is back in the studio. We'll keep you posted on that..." Is it that hard to replicate what Steve Crieg does or are the jocks not given the leeway?
As for Mara, her appeal has always been her somewhat-scatterbrained unpredicatabiliy with a dash of not-too-evil sarcasm. Two years ago, she'd do 4 hilarious minutes going into a break; now she's staring out the window. I love the music, but personality always wins listeners, right?
 
DaveFM...Rock without Ratings!

Leave it to a guy with dark socks, and shiny shoes to F up a good idea. Can't we all look back and think about a guy who has power that ruined good things? If the bosses would let Margot do her thing, and let her program what she thinks would work, then Dave would do fine. All research and testing should be thrown out the window in this format. Hello!!! "Rock Without Rules!" The playlist is too narrow. Plain and simple! And the jocks are being told to shut up. Have some personality, play tons of different music, and maybe things will turn.
 
Re: DaveFM...Rock without Ratings!

> Leave it to a guy with dark socks, and shiny shoes to F up a
> good idea. Can't we all look back and think about a guy who
> has power that ruined good things? If the bosses would let
> Margot do her thing, and let her program what she thinks
> would work, then Dave would do fine. All research and
> testing should be thrown out the window in this format.
> Hello!!! "Rock Without Rules!" The playlist is too narrow.
> Plain and simple! And the jocks are being told to shut up.
> Have some personality, play tons of different music, and
> maybe things will turn.
>


Barnes' act was old at 99x.

Dave is not AAA enough for real fans of AAA radio and it's too disjointed musically for the typical Atlantan button pusher.

Perhaps it will bounce back.

I'm sure the suits are arguing over how to lean the station. Hard to take a chance with a 100kw stick like this, but the market DID react...it's just not enough to keep 'em...throw the audience a bone, Dave!
 
> > Mara does sound like someone is on the other side of the
> > glass ready to hit her knuckles anytime she tries to be
> > funny or engaging. Eric rattles off some non sequitirs and
>
> > plays the next song. I do like Margot though. Barnes he is
>
> > the robot he is, boring, droll and self-absorbed. In
> general
> > they all seem so impersonal.
> >
> > The playlist is hurting in my opinion. I llike Mark
> > Knopfler's(Dire Straits) new album but must I hear it
> every
> > hour. It seems to be skewing more older classic rock again
>
> > but maybe it is because I just do not listen that much
> > anymore.
> >
>
> I totally agree with this observation about the music
> skewing older. When Dave first flipped on, it seemed to
> stick to 99x's bread and butter playlists from the 90's and
> not venture any further than 80's. These days, seems like
> they're spinning far more classic stuff than they used to-
> almost seems like an older mix than they were playing in Z's
> last days (This is just my opinion, and I'm not in the biz,
> so I don't have statistics on this... I'm just stating what
> I have perceived).
>
> I don't really like the jocks much either.. I was hoping
> that they'd put TRG on in the mornings (that idea fizzled
> when All Access arrived). So that's my vote.. Go back to the
> original Dave playlist, expand it a bit, get better jocks,
> and hopefully TRG!
>
I agree that the playlists seems older than the final days of Z. Playing new Knopfler songs may make it seems they play newer hits but it is an old sound. It doesn't matter what the stats show if us listeners think it is older. Perception is reality.
 
Re: DaveFM...Rock without Ratings!

> If the bosses would let
> Margot do her thing, and let her program what she thinks
> would work, then Dave would do fine.

Unless the DJ is the also the music director, it's not (nor has it ever been) their job to ""play what they think will work"...you can't fault anyone at dave for that. It's just the natural cycle of radio.

Like it or not, research, ratings, and money ultimately decide what gets played on ANY stations air waves.

I, for one, enjoy Dave's playlist. It really fits in to my day very well. It almost seems like they read the mood of the city when they draw up the play list every day. If it's raining or whatever, they'll play rainy day songs...etc...
<P ID="signature">______________
Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.</P>
 
Re: DaveFM...Rock without Ratings!

> > If the bosses would let
> > Margot do her thing, and let her program what she thinks
> > would work, then Dave would do fine.
>
> Unless the DJ is the also the music director, it's not (nor
> has it ever been) their job to ""play what they think will
> work"...you can't fault anyone at dave for that. It's just
> the natural cycle of radio.
>
> Like it or not, research, ratings, and money ultimately
> decide what gets played on ANY stations air waves.
>
> I, for one, enjoy Dave's playlist. It really fits in to my
> day very well. It almost seems like they read the mood of
> the city when they draw up the play list every day. If it's
> raining or whatever, they'll play rainy day songs...etc...
>
Thanks, Ms. Engel
 
Re: DaveFM...Rock without Ratings!

> > I, for one, enjoy Dave's playlist. It really fits in to my
>
> > day very well. It almost seems like they read the mood of
> > the city when they draw up the play list every day. If
> it's
> > raining or whatever, they'll play rainy day songs...etc...
>
> >
> Thanks, Ms. Engel
>

That's MRS. Engel to YOU, buddy! =)<P ID="signature">______________
Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.</P>
 
Re: Margot is the MD!

> Sorry... Last I checked, Margot was ALSO the Music Director
> for Dave!
>

This I did not know. Regardless, it is not the MD's responsibility to play "what THEY want". Sure, Margot knows her music (and is a very good jock), but that doesn't automatically give license to play what SHE wants. Although I'm sure that if she did, there would probably be a lot less complaining about dave's format and play list. <P ID="signature">______________
Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.</P>
 
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