vchimpanzee, you don't have to have ratings to be successful. That's the problem with radio these days. It is all about ratings and being number one. Truth is, a small, well programmed AM with a passionate owner line WNMB can provide a real nice living for it's owner and staff. See, ratings don't really matter! It is results. A good sales person can sell a station with no ratings - and once they try it, they'll be back. Why do you think WSJS has always outbilled most of the FMs in the market? Surely wasn't ratings. Sure, usually in the top 10, but always in the top three or four in revenue!