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Herald IT: (WSOX 99.5???)

raccoonradio

raccoonradio

http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=130535

Gayle Fee/Laura Raposa
"The Red Sox are dropping hints that they may be ready to buy their own radio station unless WEEI or another signal ponies up the richest deal in broadcast history. Word from the broadcast booth is that the Sox are seeking a 20 to 25 percent increase over the current $10 million or so they are getting from ’EEI.
...WEEI, we’re told, is anxious to keep the Sox rights, but balking at the pricetag."

“We’ve had some very productive and fruitful discussions,” said ’EEI programming cheese Jason Wolfe. “We have every expectation of getting a deal done.”

The article mentions the Sox are considering buying a station (yup, we've heard
that before) and that the pinstripers down in the Bronx are also in the market
for a station down in Gotham.

One possibily, the article says: Buying WKLB from Greater Media...
 
Conjecture at its finest, yet in this whitebread market it's quite possible. An FM sports talker would actually go over well here.

But still, what a boring FM dial Boston would have if that happened!
 
http://> thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=130535
>
>
> Gayle Fee/Laura Raposa
> "The Red Sox are dropping hints that they may be ready to
> buy their own radio station unless WEEI or another signal
> ponies up the richest deal in broadcast history. Word from
> the broadcast booth is that the Sox are seeking a 20 to 25
> percent increase over the current $10 million or so they are
> getting from ’EEI.
> ...WEEI, we’re told, is anxious to keep the Sox rights, but
> balking at the pricetag."
>
> “We’ve had some very productive and fruitful discussions,”
> said ’EEI programming cheese Jason Wolfe. “We have every
> expectation of getting a deal done.”
>
> The article mentions the Sox are considering buying a
> station (yup, we've heard
> that before) and that the pinstripers down in the Bronx are
> also in the market
> for a station down in Gotham.
>
> One possibily, the article says: Buying WKLB from Greater
> Media...
<font color=blue> Everybody knows the Sox property is worth lots. Personally I don't think they want to be in the radio station biz but they are in a position where they can bluff with a legit threat behind it. </font>
 
> Everybody knows the Sox property is worth lots.
> Personally I don't think they want to be in the radio
> station biz but they are in a position where they can bluff
> with a legit threat behind it.
>

what do you base it on? nyt owns 17% of the team and they own radio and
tv stations. other members of the sox cartel have owned radio and tv
stations in the past. these people ain't media dummies.

as for threatening to buy, they ain't bluffing. these guys know where the
money is and they'll get it. if weei ain't paying, someone else will. it's that
simple.
 
>
> One possibily, the article says: Buying WKLB from Greater
> Media...
>
who says wklb is up for sale. it's the #2 biller behind magic.
it's their second highest-rated station in town.
 
> > Everybody knows the Sox property is worth lots.
> > Personally I don't think they want to be in the radio
> > station biz but they are in a position where they can
> bluff
> > with a legit threat behind it.
> >
>
> what do you base it on? nyt owns 17% of the team and they
> own radio and
> tv stations. other members of the sox cartel have owned
> radio and tv
> stations in the past. these people ain't media dummies.
>
> as for threatening to buy, they ain't bluffing. these guys
> know where the
> money is and they'll get it. if weei ain't paying, someone
> else will. it's that
> simple.
I think it's a bluff, because like I said I don't think they want a station preferring to have WEEI pay fees at a 25% increase.They are on record as saying they want to stay put. But I never said they wouldn't make a purchase, of course they can, but I don't think they will.
 
> >
> > One possibily, the article says: Buying WKLB from Greater Media...
> >
> who says wklb is up for sale. it's the #2 biller behind magic.
> it's their second highest-rated station in town.

First of all, I was told by someone who worked there that WBOS was actually their second highest biller behind WMJX. It's not a matter of the ratings numbers, as WBOS's are obviously much lower. It's a matter of how much they can bill for the spots for their format demographic, and AAA bills higher than Country because the audience is perceived as more affluent.

Secondly, it appears that Greater Media will have to spin off a station when their purchase of WCRB 102.5 goes through, because that will put them over the ownership limit for stations on one band (FM) in a market. The only station that Greater Media now has without a transmitter right in town on the Pru is 99.5 WKLB, so it's speculated that will be the one they will most likely let go.

It's also speculated that Greater Media will not keep WCRB classical after they buy it and that they may move the WKLB call letters and Country format over to 102.5, leaving 99.5 to become something completely different under some other owner. This is not official information, but it seems like a likely scenario.
 
Re:WCRB will have Classical on HD 2

> > >
> > > One possibily, the article says: Buying WKLB from
> Greater Media...
> > >
> > who says wklb is up for sale. it's the #2 biller behind
> magic.
> > it's their second highest-rated station in town.
>
> First of all, I was told by someone who worked there that
> WBOS was actually their second highest biller behind WMJX.
> It's not a matter of the ratings numbers, as WBOS's are
> obviously much lower. It's a matter of how much they can
> bill for the spots for their format demographic, and AAA
> bills higher than Country because the audience is perceived
> as more affluent.
>
> Secondly, it appears that Greater Media will have to spin
> off a station when their purchase of WCRB 102.5 goes
> through, because that will put them over the ownership limit
> for stations on one band (FM) in a market. The only station
> that Greater Media now has without a transmitter right in
> town on the Pru is 99.5 WKLB, so it's speculated that will
> be the one they will most likely let go.
>
> It's also speculated that Greater Media will not keep WCRB
> classical after they buy it and that they may move the WKLB
> call letters and Country format over to 102.5, leaving 99.5
> to become something completely different under some other
> owner. This is not official information, but it seems like a
> likely scenario.
> >
> Kenny writes..................
>From what I understand 102.5 cannot drop Classical completly. From what I hear when some guy died 30 or 40 years ago he put a speculation in his Will that the station carry Classical music for 99 years. Yes, that's right 99 years. There is is something like 45 years left to this speculation and rumour has it. Classical music will be carried on the HD 2 part of the frequency.
 
Re:WCRB will have Classical on HD 2

> > Kenny writes..................
> >From what I understand 102.5 cannot drop Classical
> completly. From what I hear when some guy died 30 or 40
> years ago he put a speculation in his Will that the station
> carry Classical music for 99 years. Yes, that's right 99
> years. There is is something like 45 years left to this
> speculation and rumour has it. Classical music will be
> carried on the HD 2 part of the frequency.

I've heard about that, but it's going to be a while before enough people have those receivers to make any difference. This thread was about the conventional audio programming on the main channel.
 
> >
> > One possibily, the article says: Buying WKLB from Greater
> > Media...
> >
> who says wklb is up for sale. it's the #2 biller behind
> magic.
> it's their second highest-rated station in town.
>

And it would do even better at 102.5 (better signal) which is why
Greater Media has openly stated they'd move country there and
sell off the 99.5<P ID="signature">______________
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> > >
> > > One possibily, the article says: Buying WKLB from
> Greater
> > > Media...
> > >
> > who says wklb is up for sale. it's the #2 biller behind
> > magic.
> > it's their second highest-rated station in town.
> >
>
> And it would do even better at 102.5 (better signal) which
> is why
> Greater Media has openly stated they'd move country there
> and
> sell off the 99.5
>

they never openly said anything about their plans for 102.5.
there was a speculation about it in the herald a month or two ago
by someone not with the company. if i want speculations, i'll
read joseph gallant's posts all day.

they're still not saying what will go on 102.5
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/article..._to_greater_medias_new_boston_market_manager/
 
> First of all, I was told by someone who worked there that
> WBOS was actually their second highest biller behind WMJX.
> It's not a matter of the ratings numbers, as WBOS's are
> obviously much lower. It's a matter of how much they can
> bill for the spots for their format demographic, and AAA
> bills higher than Country because the audience is perceived
> as more affluent.

outdated info. yes, everyone knows about their affiluent listeners and
how it all translates into sales, but you and your someone have no
numbers to back it up.

> Secondly, it appears that Greater Media will have to spin
> off a station when their purchase of WCRB 102.5 goes
> through, because that will put them over the ownership limit
> for stations on one band (FM) in a market. The only station
> that Greater Media now has without a transmitter right in
> town on the Pru is 99.5 WKLB, so it's speculated that will
> be the one they will most likely let go.
>

again, speculation. they haven't even closed on it and
nothing has been announced.

> It's also speculated that Greater Media will not keep WCRB
> classical after they buy it and that they may move the WKLB
> call letters and Country format over to 102.5, leaving 99.5
> to become something completely different under some other
> owner. This is not official information, but it seems like a
> likely scenario.
>
again, speculation at best.
 
Re:WCRB will have Classical on HD 2

The very reason CRB is being sold is that the trust was broken. The former owner stated in his will that CRB had to remain classical for 99 years, but lawyers found a way to present that as his "wish", not a stipulation. Greater Media will have no obligation to broadcast Classical music. Thus CRB's "8th and final" cartoon festival coming up in Boston.

> From what I understand 102.5 cannot drop Classical
> completly. From what I hear when some guy died 30 or 40
> years ago he put a speculation in his Will that the station
> carry Classical music for 99 years. Yes, that's right 99
> years. There is is something like 45 years left to this
> speculation and rumour has it. Classical music will be
> carried on the HD 2 part of the frequency.
>
 
> The article mentions the Sox are considering buying a
> station (yup, we've heard
> that before)

It would cost the Sox deep into eight figures to buy any kind of decent Boston signal. Why would they do this....and have to foot the bill for yearly operating costs....when they can just sit back and collect 12 or 13 mil a year for selling the rights to someone else?


and that the pinstripers down in the Bronx are
> also in the market
> for a station down in Gotham.

Holy smoke! A New York City station? Same argument as above, except triple the purchase price over that of a Boston station.


>
> One possibily, the article says: Buying WKLB from Greater
> Media...
>


Signal does not reach major portions of the metro with a clear signal.
 
Re:WCRB will have Classical on HD 2

> > > Kenny writes..................
> > >From what I understand 102.5 cannot drop Classical
> > completly. From what I hear when some guy died 30 or 40
> > years ago he put a speculation in his Will that the
> station
> > carry Classical music for 99 years. Yes, that's right 99
> > years. There is is something like 45 years left to this
> > speculation and rumour has it. Classical music will be
> > carried on the HD 2 part of the frequency.
>
> I've heard about that, but it's going to be a while before
> enough people have those receivers to make any difference.
> This thread was about the conventional audio programming on
> the main channel.

And 102.5 is very likely not running classical on HD2 anyway. WTKK-2 is up and running with automated classical music, and that's likely to be the HD2 that picks up the classical slack of 102.5. Classical (or some music format) is probably coming soon to WGBH-2 as well; they're currently simulcasting the main channel on their HD2 frequency.

Interestingly, if you read the initial statements of CRB staff, it seemed like they were making classical on HD2 a permanent requirement; not solely for the 45 years left for WCRB itself.
 
These guys are trying to squeeze as much revenue out of the Sox brand as possible, since they way overpaid for the franchise. They're trying to dress up a pig in Fenway Park and send it to the prom. Of course, the Sox are a moneymaker, but these folks paid nearly $700 million for the team and a decrepit ballpark. Note that the NYT owns 17 percent of the club; originally their investment was scheduled to be in the 10 percent ballpark, even less. Henry, Werner, et al don't have major coin in their pockets.
 
> WSOX is not an available set of calls. It is in use in York,
> Pa.
>
Ah, too bad...though wasn't the 95.1 (formerly 94.9) on the Cape once
known as WSOX? <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Red Sox Radio

If the Red Sox were to buy WKLB-99.5, they would likely have to buy an FM signal well to the south of Boston (read: Plymouth's WPLM-99.1) to simulcast 99.5 and give the station a full-market signal.

If the Sox were to do this, they might try to raid most of WEEI-850's air talent.

One other thought: Although they would have to spend tens of millions of dollars to buy their own station(s), the Sox, were they to do so, would keep all the revenue generated by the radio broadcasts of the team's games minus production costs. That could be more than what WEEI is paying now or even the rights fee the Sox are said to have asked from 'EEI to keep the radio rights beyond 2006.

I suspect the reason why the 30 or so regular-season Sox telecasts each season that until now were on WSBK-38 were moved to Sox-owned (80% ownership) NESN starting this year is that the Sox would make more money that way than by selling the rights to an over-the-air TV station.

Wild card: Could the Sox instead seek to buy WEEI and it's (soon to be) three "satellite" stations (Worcester, Springfield, Providence) from Entercom?? Although the team's flagship would remain on AM, they would own stations in four of New England's five largest radio markets, thus assuring that the games stay there (and in the case of Worcester, move there) for as long as the team owns the stations.

Additionally, several other professional sports teams have purchased radio stations that were or have become the flagship stations for the teams' broadcasts.
 
WSOX was once the callof the former WOCB-FM in W.Yarmouth MA,then at 94.9.
When WGCB-FM was LMA'ed to Susquehanna,and flipped to oldies, it took those calls.

Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740/WNWR 1540

Philadelphia
 
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