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That's just about EVERY thread on this site, frankly.
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OldSchool55
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I agree with Ron!
My point is, we all feel that way (yes, even those of us still "in" the game), and almost every thread leads to some recollection of bygone stations, talents, eras, etc.
Forgive me, though, if I take a callous disregard to it, even just a little. There are still people working in the trenches, trying to maintain a level of integrity for their work and their station(s).
As to why folks who've been out of the business and trying to get back in, and wondering why; I can't speak for all potential employers, but let's be honest - the jobs are fewer and fewer, and statistics show that employers tend to hire the presently employed over the unemployed or under-employed. It's truly galling when employers clearly state in their recruitment that only currently employed applicants will be considered, but it happens.
Whenever we have a position open, we get a WIDE variety of experience (or lack thereof). We'll get inundated from these poor kids from the various 'schools of broadcasting" (are these schools telling potential students about the marketplace???) all the way up to 30+ year radio veterans.
Personally, I think if you're applying to work on a contemporary format and you've been at it that long (or longer), you have to know the odds are slim. Just my two cents. (or pocket of change)
Forgive me, though, if I take a callous disregard to it, even just a little. There are still people working in the trenches, trying to maintain a level of integrity for their work and their station(s).
As to why folks who've been out of the business and trying to get back in, and wondering why; I can't speak for all potential employers, but let's be honest - the jobs are fewer and fewer, and statistics show that employers tend to hire the presently employed over the unemployed or under-employed. It's truly galling when employers clearly state in their recruitment that only currently employed applicants will be considered, but it happens.
Whenever we have a position open, we get a WIDE variety of experience (or lack thereof). We'll get inundated from these poor kids from the various 'schools of broadcasting" (are these schools telling potential students about the marketplace???) all the way up to 30+ year radio veterans.
Personally, I think if you're applying to work on a contemporary format and you've been at it that long (or longer), you have to know the odds are slim. Just my two cents. (or pocket of change)
To say that we have a lot of talented people out of work in the broadcast industry would be a gross under statement. I have never seen one person say that station XYZ is as good or better than it use to be. If there are any boy would I love to hear about them for a change and why they are better now.
Point taken, Ron, however, I'm in the business, too...35 plus years and no less realistic nor less pragmatic about today's radio versus yesterday's than you are. But my point is that I and many of us see nothing wrong with reminiscing about how radio used to be. What's wrong with the "...recollection of bygone stations, talents, eras, etc."? This is a discussion board, after all. I find that telling and relating old radio stories is very entertaining and informative...not to mention healthy. And, yes, some people do take it to the extreme with chest thumping and bitter finger pointing(which, btw, is who freqdev directed this thread at in the first place), but they are in the minority. Yet, to respond to freqdev's tongue-in-cheek post with the blanket statement, "That's just about EVERY thread on this site, frankly", is shortsighted hyperbole at best and misplaced cynicism at worst.
Glad you're fighting the good fight and maintaining the "level of integrity" at your station(s). Kudos.
Glad you're fighting the good fight and maintaining the "level of integrity" at your station(s). Kudos.
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Scooter Lesley
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This post really does not interest me, but I must toss my two cents in, and agree with SSummers;...who has the best balance of this topic. No, I'm not in the biz, but I do hold top shelf respect for all that have the same experince level as Ssummers. As for those who fall into the 5-to-10 year level, yes...there too is some talent, but not as plentiful, as the listeners would certainly appreciate. After I resigned from WROQ on February 21st, 1994, I worked for three smaller stations, before getting out. I knew that getting out entirely would mean great difficulty, if I ever wanted to again crack a mic.
Aside from body slamming some pencilneck consultant, I'd still be in!
Now debt free, semi-retired, and caring for parents 85 & 82,...I'm a little bored. Writing articles, chapters in books, and tring to finish my first photo journalist book, I'm pissed at what some stations have become...boasting a massive 5-share!
Aside from body slamming some pencilneck consultant, I'd still be in!
Now debt free, semi-retired, and caring for parents 85 & 82,...I'm a little bored. Writing articles, chapters in books, and tring to finish my first photo journalist book, I'm pissed at what some stations have become...boasting a massive 5-share!
i am also on the inside and feel lucky. i am glad ssummers picked up on the humor intended with the creation of the thread. it was posted with a big 
because there are certain posters who probably didn't get it.
i am still a fan of the business but when a station makes a change in format or talent that within a day there are posts as to whether it is good or not is insane. those posters really don't understand the business.
i like posts about what radio was 30 plus years ago. as a teen i looked forward to going to the beach just to listen to kzq. it is probably true that people with experience are overlooked because the business has changed dramatically just in the past 5 years and if you have been out for a while there are those who are in that require less training.
i too am pragmatic about todays radio versus full staff, turntables, and cart machines. many stations still sound good even with voice tracking and unfortunately budgets have reduced smaller stations to satellite fed formats. nothing wrong with either as long as the bottom line is fed adequately which is why those still employed still have a job.
because there are certain posters who probably didn't get it. i am still a fan of the business but when a station makes a change in format or talent that within a day there are posts as to whether it is good or not is insane. those posters really don't understand the business.
i like posts about what radio was 30 plus years ago. as a teen i looked forward to going to the beach just to listen to kzq. it is probably true that people with experience are overlooked because the business has changed dramatically just in the past 5 years and if you have been out for a while there are those who are in that require less training.
i too am pragmatic about todays radio versus full staff, turntables, and cart machines. many stations still sound good even with voice tracking and unfortunately budgets have reduced smaller stations to satellite fed formats. nothing wrong with either as long as the bottom line is fed adequately which is why those still employed still have a job.
I feel two heads are better than one and a full staff has a lot of heads. That of course is not possible with today's economy and automation levels and yes some stations still have a certain quality to them but I am not sure that they really have the personality and feel that they could have, while a lot of the stations have no real personality at all, just card board radio.
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