HEY NASSAU HOW ABOUT A SECOND CHR

[persido]

Is what Boston needs is a second CHR, right now we only have clear channels version of a CHR. No matter where you go in this country and tune into a clear channel CHR/KISS
They all sound a like. If Nassau where to try a CHR on 99.5 I think it would work. Sure it may be slow going at first but if you give people a choice they will tune in, remember the late 80’s , early 90’s when ZOU and KISS where at war, if I remember towards the end there ZOU was giving KISS a run for it’s money, then the owners of KISS bought ZOU flipped the format and took away the computation, and since then no other CHR has went up against KISS . If someone would bring a second CHR to town and did it right and took some of the $$$$ away from KISS/clear channel, it would be a good thing.

 

[Garrett]

First of all, I think there's a greater group of people trying to save CRB's classical format then those wishing for a second CHR.

Which leads to the second thign, which is the fact that very few markets can support more than one station in the same format, and least of all CHR right now. So don't hold your breath...

Is what Boston needs is a second CHR, right now we only have clear channels version of a CHR. No matter where you go in this country and tune into a clear channel CHR/KISS
They all sound a like. If Nassau where to try a CHR on 99.5 I think it would work. Sure it may be slow going at first but if you give people a choice they will tune in, remember the late 80’s , early 90’s when ZOU and KISS where at war, if I remember towards the end there ZOU was giving KISS a run for it’s money, then the owners of KISS bought ZOU flipped the format and took away the computation, and since then no other CHR has went up against KISS . If someone would bring a second CHR to town and did it right and took some of the $$$$ away from KISS/clear channel, it would be a good thing.

 

[nhradioguy]

I would have to agree with Garrett, if you talk to a lot of people about radio it's always "all they do is play the same stuff all the time" and if that's the attitude in Boston then a 2nd CHR would not be a wise choice. I was surprised to see how well CRB has actually done in the past few books, pulling roughly a 4.0 share in Boston ain't have bad. My thoughts are that Nassau will take the current W-BACH classical they have in Maine and transplant it in Boston so that a classical station may continue. But... we shall see.

P.S. I personally wouldn't be opposed a 2nd CHR in Boston, but I think a lot of other people would...

 

[Feralcat]

P.S. I personally wouldn't be opposed a 2nd CHR in Boston, but I think a lot of other people would...

There is a 2nd CHR in Boston. It's JAMN. KISS is one more example of a station resting on heritage. That's how they can get away with some of the hires (and fires). This heritage thing seems to be more and more common among CHR stations.

 

[skimartyb]

NHradioguy, in regards to transplanting the current the Classical WBACH (Nassau) already has in Maine, this is a network feed (the World Classical Network) that originates from...WCRB...their programming and their on-air talent.

As far as ANOTHER chr? aggh...there are at least 3... KISS, Jam'n AND WILD...you could even kinda include Mix as well, which makes 4...or you could keep an exclusive format with a huge listenership. You be the judge...

 

[persido]

Sorry MIX, JAMN, WILD are not CHR stations, maybe MIX is the closest to a CHR, WILD and JAMN are urban/hip hop, a true CHR will play whats on the top 40 charts, I don't see JAMN or WILD playing Kelly Clarkson, Green Day, and so on and so on.

 

[chitchatjf]

WXKS is CHR mainstream.
Jamn is hip hop Period.
WILD is the Rnb station boston has needed for a LONG time (well it could be it it stopped trying to be a WJMN wannabe)

My defination of a TRUE Top 40 station would be something like Mike but conentrating on currents.

 

[XCountry285]

No CHR, everyone, Boston has a hieritage CHR already, Kiss 108. It's like putting another CHR in New York City for Powerhouse Z-100, in LA a Powerhouse for Kiss 102.7 or a powerhouse for anyother format like Rock in San Antonio with Kiss. Seriously, I'd be a complete waste. Boston needs something they don't have.
Here is what they do not have.
Spanish- La Rumba 99.5
CHR-Rhythmic-Hot 99.5
Dance-99.5 The Beat
Urban-Jammin' 99.5

 

[JustinT]

No CHR, everyone, Boston has a hieritage CHR already, Kiss 108. It's like putting another CHR in New York City for Powerhouse Z-100, in LA a Powerhouse for Kiss 102.7 or a powerhouse for anyother format like Rock in San Antonio with Kiss. Seriously, I'd be a complete waste. Boston needs something they don't have.

Agreed. Especially when you remember that 99.5 is a rimshot; the station's downtown coverage leaves something to be desired. Going head-to-head with a powerhouse with a rimshot isn't usually the best idea: of course there are cases like WAAF/WBCN, but I'm not getting into that.

Here is what they do not have.
Spanish- La Rumba 99.5

I doubt Nassau would go Spanish, but this is the stick to do it with. No other rimshot hits all of the predominantly Hispanic areas of the region.

CHR-Rhythmic-Hot 99.5

So, what's Jam'n then? They were CHR/R last time I checked.

Dance-99.5 The Beat

This is not the city to give that format a try. If dance can't work in Miami, Los Angeles, and Chicago, how the heck would it work here? We couldn't even support the rhythmic AC of WQSX.

Urban-Jammin' 99.5

PM drive on WILD-FM is urban contemporary, other timeslots on WILD-FM are urban AC. And the "Jammin'" moniker is taken anyway.

I hate to keep plugging smooth jazz, but if Nassau chooses to pull the plug on WCRB, someone needs to go for the instrumental, waiting-room audience.

 

[nhradioguy]

Encarta,
As much as I'd love to see smooth jazz in Boston, it's already been tried on this very frequency years ago and we all know what happened to that... A dance station would be nice.... but I agree Boston probably isn’t the place for it. The only logical option would in fact be, classical... we shall see!

 

[CTListener]

Encarta,
As much as I'd love to see smooth jazz in Boston, it's already been tried on this very frequency years ago and we all know what happened to that...

Wasn't the smooth jazz station on 96.9?

 

[MarcB]

It was on 99.5 first.

 

[nhradioguy]

Thank you Mark,
Smooth Jazz was on 99.5 as WSJZ, I want to say before going to Wish? or was that before? I can't keep track! ???

 

[JustinT]

Smooth Jazz was on 99.5 as WSJZ, I want to say before going to Wish? or was that before? I can't keep track! ???

Wish 99.5 flipped to smooth jazz as WOAZ "The Oasis" in 1995 under Granum, as a clone of sister KOAI in Dallas. In 1997, under Greater ownership, WOAZ moved to 96.9 but changed name to WSJZ. That lasted until September 1999, when WSJZ became WTKK. WPLM 99.1 was doing smooth jazz head-to-head with WOAZ/WSJZ; it flipped to the format following AC "Variety 99.1" around 1994 and left the format on 1/1/99 with the launch of soft AC "Easy 99.1".

Here's why I think it could work: The largest burden for smooth jazz in Boston has been the competition of WCRB for the "relaxing music" audience. WCRB does well getting that audience, as seen through the station's latest book, but WCRB can't convert those listeners into billing. While there are many different leans that a smooth jazz station could take (think Latin-inspired pieces on WLVE/Miami, soul-inspired pieces on WVMV/Detroit), it would seem that something like KTWV/Los Angeles could work. KTWV incorporates some older pop songs from artists like Genesis and Bonnie Raitt along with smooth jazz from the 90's and today.

The format might not have the best history in Boston, but with it's main competition out of the way, there's room for success. There's also room to get listeners from the stale-sounding WMJX, which I recall being the top-rated FM in the market at one time last year. If listeners were satisfied with WMJX, then WSNE, WZID (which is about as anti-Boston as you can get), and to some extent WXLO would not be showing up in the Boston book.

 

[skimartyb]

Sorry MIX, JAMN, WILD are not CHR stations, maybe MIX is the closest to a CHR, WILD and JAMN are urban/hip hop, a true CHR will play whats on the top 40 charts, I don't see JAMN or WILD playing Kelly Clarkson, Green Day, and so on and so on.

Point taken, but it sort of seems to me that while these stations aren't your classic CHR stations they certainly may be the new definition of what chr may be down the road...either that or I'm just too damned old. And why are all you people trying to re-invent the wheel with a new format for 99.5? 'CRB showed a big bump to an already impressive rating in the winter book and is up again in the latest trends. What this market needs isn't yet another version of something that already exists in multiple forms...what this market needs is the survival of it's only full-time classical station.