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Hey Sam Clover, it is KAY-WHY-DOUBLE-YOU

Yes, I have posted this rant here before, but I fail to see how KYW still allows Clover to get away with his mangling of the call letters in each traffic report.

He says NOTHING that remotely sounds like K-Y-W.

Crimminy, when I worked at a much smaller station and would do something equal to this just ONCE, I would be called into the office about it.

Listen to Sam and tell me if I am wrong!
 
While we're at it, can someone explain to Cheryl Elias that she needs to sound SOMEWHAT happy to be there, and also to not step over the end of every commercial, report, and piece of production? The station sounds WELL below amateur when she's on in the afternoon.
 
Sounds nit-picky to me. I figgure if it was that much a problem, wouldn't the PD say something to them?
What time we talkin, i wanna hear this.
 
John Holcomb II said:
Sounds nit-picky to me. I figgure if it was that much a problem, wouldn't the PD say something to them?
What time we talkin, i wanna hear this.

Sam Clover does traffic in the mornings.

Cheryl is on in half hour blocks in the afternoon.
 
Cheryl also doesn't pot down the quarter-hour bumpers when she';s on, so the music drowns her out. She sounds like she doesn't pre-read her copy, and stumbles on the air, hence her cramming things in over the ends of spots. Steve Nikazy has the bumper problem, too, but to a much lesser degree than Elias.
 
"Sounds nit-picky to me. I figure if it was that much a problem, wouldn't the PD say something to them?"

One would figure, yes, but that is apprently not the case. Clover has had this problem for years.

John, KYW is a 50kw, top-ten market, news station. The problems observed here not even be tolerated at medium or small markets, in my opinion.

Listen for yourself. Clover is on about six time per hour in morning drive. See if you can discern the letters K-Y-W at the end of any of his traffic reports! Sounds like a burp. It is like he is speed-talking... but there is no need to be in that damn much of a hurry.
 
So wait, all he does is say KYW fast? He doesn't mispronounce it or anything? I'm not picturing the scene in "private parts" where Howard Stern is told how to say WNBC. Does KYW have a similar mandate for how to say KYW?
 
The traffic comes out of the triple nickle anyway, it's not done in house right? So who has say over how anyone pronounces anything?
And, really, if KYW doesn't care... who cares?
I like the familiarity of hearing Sam in the morning. Doesn't bother me. Especially if it doesn't bother them.
Really, I like the individual quirks that the traffic guys and gals have. Eric likes to talk, Sam mumbles, Mike has a weird accent, Randi has the midwest accent and is goofy... I love it all.
Is it up to the minute? No. But it is all part of the radio scene for me.
I just don't care that Sam says, 'kaywhadub'... I know what I'm listening to, and I'm not a stickler for IDs from the traffic guys, the anchors hopefully can handle that.
 
David Madden also puts some fun and spark in when he's on weekends. But I second taking pointers from Michelle D.
 
I agree with you wcradio2!!!! I like Sam Clover in the mornings!!! I think he does a great job!!! Who cares how he says the call letters. Like you said, if anyone should be talked to, it is Cheryl Elias, and they should also tell David Madden to stick to the news and STOP WITH THE BAD JOKES!!
 
Like 650 I would rather Sam Clover didn't speed-talk his way through the ID. I actually gotta give him props, though, for doing it so skillfully. On balance I agree with wcradio that some of the reporters having individual quirks is kind of a good thing.

The way Cheryl Elias talks over the bumpers is indeed irritating and unprofessional, but the bigger problem IMO is her distinctly unhappy tone. What's with that? If management hasn't taken her to task on both problems, it's hard to understand why.
 
And the way Cheryl reads the copy-with that Get.Out. Of. My.House. tone-sets my teeth on edge. I'd absolutely rather Dave M.'s lame-o jokes to Elias' nails-on-a-chalkboard style.
 
I usually hear Cheryl on my way to work between 2:30 and 3 in the afternoon
 
Several years ago they had a traffic guy on WCBS in New York that also couldn't say the call letters. It used to drive me crazy.

"DUB-YA SEE BEE ESS." Not "dub-ah-ya", but "dub-ya". Not three syllables, but two.

Must be a CBS O&O thing....
 
650AM said:
Yes, I have posted this rant here before, but I fail to see how KYW still allows Clover to get away with his mangling of the call letters in each traffic report.

He says NOTHING that remotely sounds like K-Y-W.

Crimminy, when I worked at a much smaller station and would do something equal to this just ONCE, I would be called into the office about it.

Listen to Sam and tell me if I am wrong!

It's intentional. Everyone on KYW mangles the call letters. Something about annoying people into paying attention. Remember Beth Tripani? She even mispronounced her own name. If I hadn't read it on the website I'd have continued thinking it was Kirpani. Her way of annunciating KYW was the worst on record. Keh-worba-deel.
 
The way Cheryl Elias talks over the bumpers is indeed irritating and unprofessional, but the bigger problem IMO is her distinctly unhappy tone. What's with that? If management hasn't taken her to task on both problems, it's hard to understand why.

There is no shortage of reasons to criticize KYW. None, in my opinion, have yet been represented in this thread-- with the exception of call letter pronunciation.

While my reliance on "mainstream media" for anything resembling news is now near zero, I do still admittedly use KYW for a few things-- most importantly, as a running aural "clock." I suspect I'm not the only one who uses the station in this manner.

But when I do listen for information, I want it delivered effectively. Cheryl Elias does this, and quite well. I don't care whether or not she's happy to be there. If she were a jock on a music station, I wouldn't say that. For all we know, she's thrilled to be there. I don't know, and again, I don't care.

On weekends, I-- like many others, I'd imagine-- use the station a bit differently. David Madden's anchoring style is perfect for the weekend. I actually go out of my way to listen to KYW for the whole half-hour when he's at the mic. The only other KYW anchor I have done that for in recent years was Lancer.

Many have said they like the fact that each anchor or traffic presenter has his or her own style. What we hear every day is Cheryl's own style. Some may not like it, but it's still a "style." I for one, do like it. I don't need to "hear smiling" from the person telling me about the house fire or car crash that killed a local family, or about the fact that my republic is being flushed down the toilet.

As far as the mispronunciation of call letters, there's no excuse. When Coke, Pepsi, or Budweiser begin allowing some of their bottles' labels to have the brand misspelled-- I'll consider giving KYW a pass. If someone mispronounced "McDonald's" in a TV spot-- and it somehow made it to air-- jobs would be lost. But only in radio would such nonsense be defended.
 
NigelWick said:
Clover ruins the KYW experience for me. Talks too fast, not enough enunciation.

Isn't he the guy who says "K Y Dubbanewsradio"?
 
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