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Maryville? Didn't the old WIVK AM move to Maryville? With 50,000 watts, that stick could probably do some talking. Then, the other Maryville station, WGAP is owned by Merle FM. But, who would want to be the 3rd talker. Make that 4th. No...5th?
T
Tennessee Cowboy
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Well, it IS a step-up in market size from Oliver Springs.
Tennessee Cowboy said:
At least 850 AM covers the market. However HHH show would be only 90 watts pre sunrise. Itty Bitty talker for part of his show.
Just heard in a bar in Maryville that the owner of 850 is crazier than an out house rat and is
about to buy 105 from Horne so he can go all Kitty Wells on FM! Oh and I heard in an alley in Maryville that the same owner is so out of compliance with the FCC on 850 that he has hired two Black Panthers (no not those these are black cats that can see in the dark a claw your face off) to guard the transmitter. THEN on my way back to the car a very loud guy was yelling something about 850 had so much power they were making hair dryers explode at the condos behind them and the folks at Hot Rods had four microwaves blow up when they were trying to thaw out their tater
tots!
about to buy 105 from Horne so he can go all Kitty Wells on FM! Oh and I heard in an alley in Maryville that the same owner is so out of compliance with the FCC on 850 that he has hired two Black Panthers (no not those these are black cats that can see in the dark a claw your face off) to guard the transmitter. THEN on my way back to the car a very loud guy was yelling something about 850 had so much power they were making hair dryers explode at the condos behind them and the folks at Hot Rods had four microwaves blow up when they were trying to thaw out their tater
tots!
If Hal stays in the market, I think he'll have to bite the bullet, wait out his non-compete clause, and then move back to 100.3. Otherwise, I think he'll move to a bigger market (I sure hope not though). Boy, did Citadel screw up on this one :
Maybe, they'll just put the cluster up for sale, pack up and leave town. Anyone, Clear Channel, Cumulus, Entercom, would be an improvement over Citadel.
Maybe, they'll just put the cluster up for sale, pack up and leave town. Anyone, Clear Channel, Cumulus, Entercom, would be an improvement over Citadel.BR didn t i read on here where HHH bombed big time in Nashville? Isn t that a tad bigger than Kvle?
MurvleJumpUp said:
I don't think the issue was that he "bombed" in Nashville, but instead the station he was on made a move away from talk to all sports. Hal, was out of place and they ended the simulcast. I think his show actually did ok, and if Citadel had kept a talk format, I don't think they would have ended it. Actually, since Citadel has talk outlets in Chattanooga and the Tri Cities, I'm kinda surprised they haven't tried to simulcast Hal in those markets.
I don't know. I actually like Hal a lot though, and he seems to me to have the talent to be in a larger market if he wanted. Don't get me wrong, I am not really a big conservative, so I don't necessarily agree with a lot of his views, but I really respect him because he is different. He may be conservative, but he isn't a screaming, hate filled host like most other talkers. Also, his "lifestyle" topics are a refreshing change from the political belly aching on every other talk show. I wish there was more of this kind of talk available instead of the hate fueled stuff that hosts like Limbaugh, Hannity, & Levin, spew. (I actually prefer lifestyle type talk like the WOR network offers for syndication.)
T
Tennessee Cowboy
Guest
BRH said:If Hal stays in the market, I think he'll have to bite the bullet, wait out his non-compete clause, and then move back to 100.3. Otherwise, I think he'll move to a bigger market (I sure hope not though). Boy, did Citadel screw up on this one :
Pirkle has the dough...
And if he bought the rest of the Old Kingston Pike properties HHH wouldn't have to wait out anything. And he already has the GM.
Prolly need to wait until it settles in to whatever its new market value is.
Five, Is it just me or are you actually saying HHH is a good talk show host??
Sorry I never said he was better than CP and Walker...I just wanted to know if you can actually listen to the guy and not yawn?
As for CP and Walker you are so right we were just a couple of kids trying to make a small living in AM radio. God was good to us and at times we managed to take WRJZ up there in the top 15 but yep you are right, HHH always beat us..oh I see, as in what he pulls now on a 100K FM compared to us on a 5K AM. Sorry, for a second I thought you were saying he was on the radio way back then! LOL
My bad...but again you are so so right. CP and Walker sucked wind, all the books showed it and we knew it. Granted we did manage to buy new cars each year but that was because the agencies were just crazy stupid and bought a 15 ranked radio show. I always thought it was because CP did so much agency work and they just tried to help him out? But what the heck did I know..I was just the guy saying how hot is it?
Here is a big truth for you...we had more damn fun than any two fellows in radio. Even if we sucked, never had numbers and yep we had to borrow money from our parents to buy those damn 928's.
As for CP and Walker you are so right we were just a couple of kids trying to make a small living in AM radio. God was good to us and at times we managed to take WRJZ up there in the top 15 but yep you are right, HHH always beat us..oh I see, as in what he pulls now on a 100K FM compared to us on a 5K AM. Sorry, for a second I thought you were saying he was on the radio way back then! LOL
My bad...but again you are so so right. CP and Walker sucked wind, all the books showed it and we knew it. Granted we did manage to buy new cars each year but that was because the agencies were just crazy stupid and bought a 15 ranked radio show. I always thought it was because CP did so much agency work and they just tried to help him out? But what the heck did I know..I was just the guy saying how hot is it?
Here is a big truth for you...we had more damn fun than any two fellows in radio. Even if we sucked, never had numbers and yep we had to borrow money from our parents to buy those damn 928's.
The CP and Walker show was good.
Thanks Bill, personally if I hadn t been at work I would have listened to them daily!
Wonder who the guy is that quotes..."AQH and Cume is about 3x higher" I am fine with quarter hour but the last person I heard quoting Cume was a sales person from the HHH show trying to find some figures that might justify a buy.
I do remember YEARS ago a November trend that came out showing this Walker and Todd show beating HHH...but it had to be wrong, cause they were on a tired little FM that covered Athens better than Halls.
As for HHH, sat in with him once, felt like a nice guy although he sure couldn t look you in the eye and I remember before he asked me a question he actually read nearly a page out of FORBES Mag. to I guess set up the answer? Again, nice enough but I just didn't get a single smile, giggle or "radio" moment out of the visit. Bet I don t get a second chance to visit again now! LOL bless my heart.
Wonder who the guy is that quotes..."AQH and Cume is about 3x higher" I am fine with quarter hour but the last person I heard quoting Cume was a sales person from the HHH show trying to find some figures that might justify a buy.
I do remember YEARS ago a November trend that came out showing this Walker and Todd show beating HHH...but it had to be wrong, cause they were on a tired little FM that covered Athens better than Halls.
As for HHH, sat in with him once, felt like a nice guy although he sure couldn t look you in the eye and I remember before he asked me a question he actually read nearly a page out of FORBES Mag. to I guess set up the answer? Again, nice enough but I just didn't get a single smile, giggle or "radio" moment out of the visit. Bet I don t get a second chance to visit again now! LOL bless my heart.
T
Tennessee Cowboy
Guest
How long before 98.7 goes back to oldies anyway, huh? Then you and CP can do middays. You can do a show from practically anywhere now, so Citadel can run a line to your kitchen table and HHH still won't have to look you in the eye.
Just remember who your direct competition is: http://wecoradio.com/home/index.php
You'll have to work Saturdays though. Your band has to go head-to-head with Carl Stump's Bluegrass Unlimited.
Just remember who your direct competition is: http://wecoradio.com/home/index.php
You'll have to work Saturdays though. Your band has to go head-to-head with Carl Stump's Bluegrass Unlimited.
Children, children...let's play nice! Who woulda' thunk such a harmless-looking thread could cause so much rancor?
Allow me to express a couple of facts and one opinion.
Fact: HHH is a good talk show host, particularly for what he does. He is a middle-of-the road host (despite BRN's inference that Hal is conservative), whose job is to make us want to hear what is next, then plug in a stopset while we are waiting. He generates tons of revenue, keeps all sides of an issue relatively happy, and returns decent ratings. No big controversies, no breaking news out of the gate, and no stratlingly high ratings spikes. Steady, dependable, profitable, but, unfortunately, somewhat predictable. Some listeners, me included, prefer more meat on the bones, more provoking of thought and opinion, but he does what his bosses want him to do, and deserves credit for that.
Fact: CP and Walker were, for their time, a world class team. Created record ratings from scratch in a medium (AM radio) that was starting to gasp for breath. Compared to HHH (in a totally different time), they were less-than-steady (for good reasons..it was part of their sthick), edgily dependable (they showed up, but were unpredictable...it was part of their schtick), and profitable. CP&W vs. HHH? Different times, different media, different goals, but mostly very successful.
Dems da fax....here da opinion: Knoxville is a better radio market for having had both shows. (I would have loved to see what CP&W could have done with HHH's advantages of Dick/Citadel's deep pockets and Pirkle's flame thrower coverage area. Compared to HHH or anyone else, they would have been topnotch.)
Finally, I can't help but wonder who among the writers on here have actually stepped into the control room of a radio station where their entire career was on the line every day of their life, having prepared a show outline, but prepared to deviate as events may dictate, and gone up against a few other hosts or teams who had done and were prepared to do the same thing in the same town at the same time. Walking the walk is a lot more demanding than talking the talk.
For someone who has never been on the air in a competitive situation to come on here and criticize those who have is unfair, if not absolutely foolish. Quoting someone's ratings when you have none of your own is cowardly. Slamming someone who has done the deed while hiding behind a pseudonym? (sales execs can look that one up) is pitiful and bullyish!
Ain't this FUN???
Love,
BB
Allow me to express a couple of facts and one opinion.
Fact: HHH is a good talk show host, particularly for what he does. He is a middle-of-the road host (despite BRN's inference that Hal is conservative), whose job is to make us want to hear what is next, then plug in a stopset while we are waiting. He generates tons of revenue, keeps all sides of an issue relatively happy, and returns decent ratings. No big controversies, no breaking news out of the gate, and no stratlingly high ratings spikes. Steady, dependable, profitable, but, unfortunately, somewhat predictable. Some listeners, me included, prefer more meat on the bones, more provoking of thought and opinion, but he does what his bosses want him to do, and deserves credit for that.
Fact: CP and Walker were, for their time, a world class team. Created record ratings from scratch in a medium (AM radio) that was starting to gasp for breath. Compared to HHH (in a totally different time), they were less-than-steady (for good reasons..it was part of their sthick), edgily dependable (they showed up, but were unpredictable...it was part of their schtick), and profitable. CP&W vs. HHH? Different times, different media, different goals, but mostly very successful.
Dems da fax....here da opinion: Knoxville is a better radio market for having had both shows. (I would have loved to see what CP&W could have done with HHH's advantages of Dick/Citadel's deep pockets and Pirkle's flame thrower coverage area. Compared to HHH or anyone else, they would have been topnotch.)
Finally, I can't help but wonder who among the writers on here have actually stepped into the control room of a radio station where their entire career was on the line every day of their life, having prepared a show outline, but prepared to deviate as events may dictate, and gone up against a few other hosts or teams who had done and were prepared to do the same thing in the same town at the same time. Walking the walk is a lot more demanding than talking the talk.
For someone who has never been on the air in a competitive situation to come on here and criticize those who have is unfair, if not absolutely foolish. Quoting someone's ratings when you have none of your own is cowardly. Slamming someone who has done the deed while hiding behind a pseudonym? (sales execs can look that one up) is pitiful and bullyish!
Ain't this FUN???
Love,
BB
K
knoxside
Guest
I'd rather hear HHH after morning drive. Someone needs to put a real news wheel on in the mornings and take over AM drive.
Fact,
You have to admit rancor is rather fun at times and that today radio is something most children believe just ties up the sound system in the car when they try to plug their Ipod into the SONY.
Fact,
HHH is boring
Not a bad human at all and from several stand points he is admired but man he is boring.
Fact,
CP and Walker were not boring, and they never really were loved by a single PD or GM but they are not now and because they are not around and won t ever be again who gives
a big old rat's rectum.
Fact,
Today local radio is down to three stations and not one single Swinging Richard on this board can
tell us what those three will be like or if they will even be around 48 months from today.
SO keep the rancor and don't forget to lace it with...I am smarter than you or I have done this longer than you...and at least you will have a fun place to drop in and talk from time to time.
PS the fellow who is captain of the 850 boat has issues that if studied could be real text book material. Sad but those who have experienced him realize he is beyond help.
You have to admit rancor is rather fun at times and that today radio is something most children believe just ties up the sound system in the car when they try to plug their Ipod into the SONY.
Fact,
HHH is boring
Not a bad human at all and from several stand points he is admired but man he is boring.
Fact,
CP and Walker were not boring, and they never really were loved by a single PD or GM but they are not now and because they are not around and won t ever be again who gives
a big old rat's rectum.
Fact,
Today local radio is down to three stations and not one single Swinging Richard on this board can
tell us what those three will be like or if they will even be around 48 months from today.
SO keep the rancor and don't forget to lace it with...I am smarter than you or I have done this longer than you...and at least you will have a fun place to drop in and talk from time to time.
PS the fellow who is captain of the 850 boat has issues that if studied could be real text book material. Sad but those who have experienced him realize he is beyond help.
MurvleJumpUp said:
I don't understand the attack on your fellow radio host. I don't find HHH boring at all. Sure, there are some days when he, like the rest of us, has less with which to work. But when stacked up against some other talk show hosts, I find HHH to be a refreshing change of pace.
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