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Hi Bob!

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corpradiosux

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Has anyone else been thinking about that old drinking game?

At any rate, I'm very disappointed in BOB. So they have weird segues...so what. So they have a funny name...so what. I haven't heard a single song that wasn't in the top 40 in its day, or that I couldn't hear on another station in Pittsburgh.

BOB: All the overplayed hits of the past 40 years in one place. It really is modern day elevator music.
 
So what should they play? Only the Top 579-732 of every year? Songs that not one
human knows? That'll grab the listeners. That'll keep everyone employeed.

Thanks for the same old song and dance....it just never stops...

To much variety, not enough variety, same old songs, to many new songs,
to many decades, not diverse enough, good name, bad name, funny liners,
sad liners, to much talk, no waether, all talk, ramble on, no local personality,
to rocky, to soft. And the greatest catchword of all OVERPLAYED. Same old crap
as the other boring stations, way to different and not focused or flowing.

You would never be happy, even if you programmed it all yourself and were the only listener. Maybe corporate radio sux, but why the hell would any radio
station CARE if you listened anyway?

Funny, when you buy clothes, do you buy name brands? What about cars?
TV's, computers, music labels, artists that you've never heard of, movies
(inde vs. mainstream?) Do you support pro sports, top rated college teams?
Sure you do...probably in a big way, all on you're credit card - maxed out
--- to show how "cool" you are to your friends. Well, guess what ---
you're not the free thinker you think you are...it's "cool" to trash radio.
Everybody does it. Tell every other business to offer off brand products
and see how long they survive.

But, when it comes to radio---nothing is eeeeevvvvvverrrrrr remotely
right. That's okay. The whipping boys days are numbered and soon,
you'll be able to buy only music you like at the only place to shop
WALMART. But, that music will be about 1,000 CDs, all double priced,
all choosen by the system you are helping to create. On equipment
that is designed to cost you for every song you play and you'll
have NO choice. Like cable TV today.

But, as you pay through the nose, remember IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU.
 
Bob!

Important question: are you currently in the radio business (programming side)?
>
> At any rate, I'm very disappointed in BOB. So they have
> weird segues...so what. So they have a funny name...so
> what. I haven't heard a single song that wasn't in the top
> 40 in its day, or that I couldn't hear on another station in
> Pittsburgh.
>
> BOB: All the overplayed hits of the past 40 years in one
> place. It really is modern day elevator music.
>
 
Every Other Station!!!

So you can hear these songs on every other radio station?? Well now you dont have to listen to every other radio station becuase they are all on one station..But you like things bland and the same..
 
Re: Every Other Station!!!

> So you can hear these songs on every other radio station??
> Well now you dont have to listen to every other radio
> station becuase they are all on one station..But you like
> things bland and the same..
>
Pittsburgh radio is SO SLOW & OUT OF TOUCH, they have to bring in a generic version of JACK. Other than talk radio, nothing in this town is worth listening to. Thank god for satellite radio!
 
Re: Every Other Station!!!

> So you can hear these songs on every other radio station??
> Well now you dont have to listen to every other radio
> station becuase they are all on one station..But you like
> things bland and the same..
>

And you like to not read posts properly?
 
> So what should they play? Only the Top 579-732 of every
> year? Songs that not one
> human knows? That'll grab the listeners. That'll keep
> everyone employeed.
>
> Thanks for the same old song and dance....it just never
> stops...
>
> To much variety, not enough variety, same old songs, to many
> new songs,
> to many decades, not diverse enough, good name, bad name,
> funny liners,
> sad liners, to much talk, no waether, all talk, ramble on,
> no local personality,
> to rocky, to soft. And the greatest catchword of all
> OVERPLAYED. Same old crap
> as the other boring stations, way to different and not
> focused or flowing.
>
> You would never be happy, even if you programmed it all
> yourself and were the only listener. Maybe corporate radio
> sux, but why the hell would any radio
> station CARE if you listened anyway?
>
> Funny, when you buy clothes, do you buy name brands? What
> about cars?
> TV's, computers, music labels, artists that you've never
> heard of, movies
> (inde vs. mainstream?) Do you support pro sports, top rated
> college teams?
> Sure you do...probably in a big way, all on you're credit
> card - maxed out
> --- to show how "cool" you are to your friends. Well, guess
> what ---
> you're not the free thinker you think you are...it's "cool"
> to trash radio.
> Everybody does it. Tell every other business to offer off
> brand products
> and see how long they survive.
>
> But, when it comes to radio---nothing is eeeeevvvvvverrrrrr
> remotely
> right. That's okay. The whipping boys days are numbered and
> soon,
> you'll be able to buy only music you like at the only place
> to shop
> WALMART. But, that music will be about 1,000 CDs, all double
> priced,
> all choosen by the system you are helping to create. On
> equipment
> that is designed to cost you for every song you play and
> you'll
> have NO choice. Like cable TV today.
>
> But, as you pay through the nose, remember IT'S ALL ABOUT
> YOU.
>
whoah, wait, what??

I'm not trashing radio AT ALL, just saying this station wasn't what I thought it would be from reading about it on here. You seem to be taking this VERY personally and putting words in my mouth that aren't there.

Do I want every single song to be something obscure? No. But I was hoping for something a little more different than we've heard so far. Hopefully it'll improve. WLSW and WJPA do a great job at this in my opinion.

And for your information Mensa, I DO NOT shop at Wal-Mart - I yell at people who do, actually. I would never buy ANYTHING there, let alone music - I go to Paul's CDs, Dave's Music Mine or Eide's. Sometimes I buy name brands, sometimes I don't, but I have no idea what that has to do with the music I like or the radio station I listen to - and we won't even get into the credit card/cool friends comment (how old do you think I am, 18?) as it's just bizarre. Never have I ever read so much misinformation about myself in one space.

Calm down. For real.


<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by corpradiosux on 11/03/05 05:28 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Bob!

As I've said on here several times, no I'm not...I'm just interested in radio more than the average person.

> Important question: are you currently in the radio business
> (programming side)?
> >
> > At any rate, I'm very disappointed in BOB. So they have
> > weird segues...so what. So they have a funny name...so
> > what. I haven't heard a single song that wasn't in the
> top
> > 40 in its day, or that I couldn't hear on another station
> in
> > Pittsburgh.
> >
> > BOB: All the overplayed hits of the past 40 years in one
> > place. It really is modern day elevator music.
> >
>
 
Re: Every Other Station!!!

> > So you can hear these songs on every other radio station??
>
> > Well now you dont have to listen to every other radio
> > station becuase they are all on one station..But you like
> > things bland and the same..
> >
> Pittsburgh radio is SO SLOW & OUT OF TOUCH, they have to
> bring in a generic version of JACK. Other than talk radio,
> nothing in this town is worth listening to. Thank god for
> satellite radio!
>



There are several "generic" versions of JACK such as WARH "The ARCH"/ St. Louis. They quickly moved up to #2 overall, #1 FM, and #1 25-54.

That being said, WRKZ may have missed out on a golden opportunity. For a company that loves JACK, I am surprised Infinity didn't flip WRKZ. JACK could have solved all their problems, for the shortterm if not longer.
 
> whoah, wait, what??
>
> I'm not trashing radio AT ALL, just saying this station
> wasn't what I thought it would be from reading about it on
> here. You seem to be taking this VERY personally and
> putting words in my mouth that aren't there.
>
Never mind OldiesCat and tibbs. I think they're both the same person, work at the corporate level and want us all to overlook the elimination of jobs because of how "wonderful" the Jack, Billy Bob, Hodge Podge format is.
 
You are 100% correct!!!!!

> JACK could have solved all their
> problems, for the shortterm if not longer.

That is totally correct. Jack, Bob, and all those other single name formats will be great for the short term, as those stations capture higher and higher percentage shares of the diminishing number of listeners who even bother turning on a broadcast radio receiver.

Meanwhile, the folks over at Sirius and XM are popping the champagne corks.
 
Re: You are 100% correct!!!!!

> Meanwhile, the folks over at Sirius and XM are popping the
> champagne corks.

...if only for suckers who buy the receiver then have to subscribe to their service. Pretty soon, those listeners will be just like those who have digital cable...."all these damn stations and NOTHING GOOD!" Over-the-air radio provides the music FREE. It's those fine sponsors that allow radio stations to broadcast for no charge to the listener. But then again, it's your money not mine. Burn it as you wish. So long as there is no one out there who can convince me why I NEED satellite radio for a charge when I can get broadcast radio for FREE, I'll keep my radio, thank you.
 
> > whoah, wait, what??
> >
> > I'm not trashing radio AT ALL, just saying this station
> > wasn't what I thought it would be from reading about it on
>
> > here. You seem to be taking this VERY personally and
> > putting words in my mouth that aren't there.
> >
> Never mind OldiesCat and tibbs. I think they're both the
> same person, work at the corporate level and want us all to
> overlook the elimination of jobs because of how "wonderful"
> the Jack, Billy Bob, Hodge Podge format is.
>

I appreciate your zeal in making OC and me one person. But,
not true. I will tell you this, steppenwolf, I just refused
a job offer in a top 3 city that would have lead to the firing
of over 30 people. Not employees...people. Humans, so don't
go there with me on that. And yes, the job was 6 figures plus,
so see how greedy or corporate I am when it comes to having
to do things that cold hearted? Yes, things change, you
make decisions you have to make, it's usually less than 3 or 6
people that you get other jobs for, you tell them the truth,
you do your best and hopefully (actually I am 100%) on this,
you hire great people who have what it takes to get another
job very easily. Now, what are you doing in radio these days?
Doubt you'd tell us. I just don't see where you think you
are saving people in the long run. I can explain more, if you
want me to clarify that.
 
Re: You are 100% correct!!!!!

Did you copy that post from something that the TV executives at CBS, NBC , and ABC said about cable TV before they saw their share of the TV market cut in half? Or was that copied from the movie studio exectutives talking about Television in the late 1940's? Or was it from the vaudeville promoters talking about the invention of movies? Or was it from the radio executives who said that television would never hurt the big radio networks, and that scripted radio shows like "The Bickersons" or "Gunsmoke" would always rule the radio airwaves?

Do you possibly get my point? That as long as there is progress, those organizations that are stuck in the past either have to change with the times or get left behind. Of course, those who work under the assumption that no other industry could possibly have any parallels or similarity with the industry that they work in wouldn't be able to recognize that what happened to other industries in the past can also happen to the industry one works in right now or in the near future.

You call those who choose to pay the nominal fee for the quality and SELECTABLE variety offered on satelite radio over the pap offered on broadcast radio as "suckers". Is that your general opinion of all listeners who choose something other than what you offer on your station?

> > Meanwhile, the folks over at Sirius and XM are popping the
>
> > champagne corks.
>
> ...if only for suckers who buy the receiver then have to
> subscribe to their service. Pretty soon, those listeners
> will be just like those who have digital cable...."all these
> damn stations and NOTHING GOOD!" Over-the-air radio
> provides the music FREE. It's those fine sponsors that
> allow radio stations to broadcast for no charge to the
> listener. But then again, it's your money not mine. Burn
> it as you wish. So long as there is no one out there who
> can convince me why I NEED satellite radio for a charge when
> I can get broadcast radio for FREE, I'll keep my radio,
> thank you.
>
 
Re: You are 100% correct!!!!!

> Did you copy that post from something that the TV executives
> at CBS, NBC , and ABC said about cable TV before they saw
> their share of the TV market cut in half? Or was that copied
> from the movie studio exectutives talking about Television
> in the late 1940's? Or was it from the vaudeville promoters
> talking about the invention of movies? Or was it from the
> radio executives who said that television would never hurt
> the big radio networks, and that scripted radio shows like
> "The Bickersons" or "Gunsmoke" would always rule the radio
> airwaves?
Well, the last time I looked, radio, movies and over-the-air television were still around, and still developing technology. Satellite radio won't obliverate them, just add to an already saturated media world. Those mediums HAVE changed with the times: i.e. HDTV, HDRadio.....BTW, I seem to recall "Gunsmoke" having moved from radio & TV, and radio still lives today>


>
> Do you possibly get my point? That as long as there is
> progress, those organizations that are stuck in the past
> either have to change with the times or get left behind. Of
> course, those who work under the assumption that no other
> industry could possibly have any parallels or similarity
> with the industry that they work in wouldn't be able to
> recognize that what happened to other industries in the past
> can also happen to the industry one works in right now or in
> the near future.
I'm not assuming anything. It's just that radio, movies and television AREN'T dead, nor will they be. Pretty soon, radio programmers and execs will learn to enhance their own audiences rather than compete with other mediums. If HDRadio comes along, what will that spell for satellite?

>
> You call those who choose to pay the nominal fee for the
> quality and SELECTABLE variety offered on satelite radio
> over the pap offered on broadcast radio as "suckers". Is
> that your general opinion of all listeners who choose
> something other than what you offer on your station?
Look, it's your money. Do you flip from channel to channel on satellie? I know that satellite doesn't play commercials, but how is that made up for? In fees to buy the unit, then paying for the service. Satellite radio is a LUXURY. Most people will prefer a free radio over satellite. I just don't see wasting money on my part. I thought satellite was supposed to resolve the channel flipping problem. But now with all of those channels, it's getting to be a lot like cable & digital cable. All of those channels and nothing to watch.
 
Re: You are 100% correct!!!!!

> radio
> still lives today>

But it has changed dramatically. It is nothing like what it used to be, beyond being the broadcasting of sound waves on electromagnetic waves. The programming is almost totally different. The content is almost totally different. And it has moved from being the primary mass communication media of the world to a secondary or ever tertiary medium.

When I said that radio won't survive, I misspoke. I should have said radio as it is known today won't survive. The standard music format radio programming that dominates the airwaves today will, within not too many years, be as much a part of history as "The Shadow" or "The Mercury Radio Theatre".
 
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