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I noticed on the central PA and Lehigh Valley boards, the topic of high school football was lengthy. However I noticed that the poster neglected to say anything on the philly board. So I decided to begin my own thread.
Who else besides 1420 WCOJ is carrying High school football in the philadelphia market? I know it's a big market, so that's why I asked. I wanted to see if there was radio coverages for anything outside of the chester-montgomery league ?
 
> Who else besides 1420 WCOJ is carrying High school
> football in the philadelphia market? I know it's a big
> market, so that's why I asked. I wanted to see if there was
> radio coverages for anything outside of the
> chester-montgomery league ?
>

I will assume that WNPV, WBCB, WPAZ and WRDV will once again cover the northern suburbs games as they have for years. WNPV has also put some games on the net only so they can carry 2 games or if there is NASCAR or Penn State football on the air. Back when they were daytimers, WNPV and the old WBUX used to tape the Friday night games & play them back Saturday mornings!

For several years WZZD carried high school football. Will WNTP now continue this tradition?
 
Easy money

More covert self-promotion from Route 81: rubberballsNliquor neglected to mention that he is a WCOJ employee.

High school sports is a staple of "dollar a holler" small market and suburban stations. Local advertisers will buy it and it does into otherwise dead dayparts. Whether anyone really wants to listen to it is another question, but high school games are an easy sell despite any lack of audience interest in hearing games on the radio. Out in small towns like - say - Berwick, there is often one local team and teams may have to travel some distance for away games. There, high school sports broadcasts might make sense. In the Philly suburbs, there are lots of schools, so any game is going to involve only a small portion of the audience. And people who care about the game are likely to go. And let's face it, on these small stations (even on WBCB in Levittown) the people broadcasting the game ain't no Merrill Reese.

In a way, high school sports has a lot in common with church broadcasts and infomercials: Easy money (often premium rate) that otherwise could not be sold. Who cares if anybody listens?


> I noticed on the central PA and Lehigh Valley boards, the
> topic of high school football was lengthy. However I noticed
> that the poster neglected to say anything on the philly
> board. So I decided to begin my own thread.
> Who else besides 1420 WCOJ is carrying High school
> football in the philadelphia market? I know it's a big
> market, so that's why I asked. I wanted to see if there was
> radio coverages for anything outside of the
> chester-montgomery league ?
>
 
> I noticed on the central PA and Lehigh Valley boards, the
> topic of high school football was lengthy. However I noticed
> that the poster neglected to say anything on the philly
> board. So I decided to begin my own thread.
> Who else besides 1420 WCOJ is carrying High school
> football in the philadelphia market? I know it's a big
> market, so that's why I asked. I wanted to see if there was
> radio coverages for anything outside of the
> chester-montgomery league ?
>

If Wilmington counts, IIRC last year WDEL carried some Friday night and maybe Sat. afternoon northern Delaware HS football games. Don't know if it will again this year.

ixnay<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by ixnay on 08/17/05 02:37 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Easy money

What's the matter? Didn't you make your High School team? I went to a NYC High School that didn't lose for four consecutive seasons and produced one NFL Player and three NCAA All Americans but never played before more than 50 people! (And those were mostly girlfriends of players waiting to go out after the game!) I wish I had some community support like there is in PA.

Joe Thomas

PS, Get over whatever your problem with route 81 is, they ain't Clear Channel, Entercom or even Forever Broadcasting. I know, I've worked for 'em all.

> More covert self-promotion from Route 81: rubberballsNliquor
> neglected to mention that he is a WCOJ employee.
>
> High school sports is a staple of "dollar a holler" small
> market and suburban stations. Local advertisers will buy it
> and it does into otherwise dead dayparts. Whether anyone
> really wants to listen to it is another question, but high
> school games are an easy sell despite any lack of audience
> interest in hearing games on the radio. Out in small towns
> like - say - Berwick, there is often one local team and
> teams may have to travel some distance for away games.
> There, high school sports broadcasts might make sense. In
> the Philly suburbs, there are lots of schools, so any game
> is going to involve only a small portion of the audience.
> And people who care about the game are likely to go. And
> let's face it, on these small stations (even on WBCB in
> Levittown) the people broadcasting the game ain't no Merrill
> Reese.
>
> In a way, high school sports has a lot in common with church
> broadcasts and infomercials: Easy money (often premium rate)
> that otherwise could not be sold. Who cares if anybody
> listens?
>
>
> > I noticed on the central PA and Lehigh Valley boards, the
> > topic of high school football was lengthy. However I
> noticed
> > that the poster neglected to say anything on the philly
> > board. So I decided to begin my own thread.
> > Who else besides 1420 WCOJ is carrying High school
> > football in the philadelphia market? I know it's a big
> > market, so that's why I asked. I wanted to see if there
> was
> > radio coverages for anything outside of the
> > chester-montgomery league ?
> >
>
 
Re: Easy money

I can't speak for every high school sports team that is broadcast on the radio, but here in Connecticut there was one local high school team that had been broadcast on the local mom & pop AMer for years. The station never used it's night time power and would sign off at 830PM every night, but they'd stay on until the end of the game. Well in 1999 the owner of the station died. The station was sold and leased out 24/7 to a Spanish Outlet and Holy Hell was raised when the Spanish Broadcaster leasing the station wouldn't give up time for the game. Since they had the same GM as they had when they were the community station, the PTA and loyal fans of the team convinved him to persuade the Spanish Broadcaster to give up time for the games. I don't have full details, but I assume it's called sub-leasing. Through a couple of format changes and own ownership change since 1999 the games are still on the station. Persuably the games will still be on the station starting in a couple weeks. Don't know how many people can listen now that most games are on while the station's at night time power, which is much much lower than the daytime signal. But lots of people attend the games in person.
 
> > Who else besides 1420 WCOJ is carrying High school
> > football in the philadelphia market? I know it's a big
> > market, so that's why I asked. I wanted to see if there
> was
> > radio coverages for anything outside of the
> > chester-montgomery league ?
> >
>
> I will assume that WNPV, WBCB, WPAZ and WRDV will once again
> cover the northern suburbs games as they have for years.
> WNPV has also put some games on the net only so they can
> carry 2 games or if there is NASCAR or Penn State football
> on the air. Back when they were daytimers, WNPV and the old
> WBUX used to tape the Friday night games & play them back
> Saturday mornings!
>
> For several years WZZD carried high school football. Will
> WNTP now continue this tradition?
>

AFAIK, I believe WRDV only carries the annual T-giving day game with Upper Moreland vs. Hatboro-Horsham?

Anyway, WNPV does high school sports, for a fact.

WZZD's coverage came from Jeremy Treatman buying time on 990 to broadcast the games. I would imagine, if the coin is right, the Scholastic Sports Network will grace the airwaves of WNTP.<P ID="signature">______________
I've done it all...HOO HOO...tell 'em, Fred!
FOX News Alert: YOU SUCK!!! Ya like apples?</P>
 
Re: Easy money

Mr. Thomas neglects to mention that he is currently the host of the morning show on WCOJ. I infer from his ad hominum attack that he does not agree with my post, although he did not respond to the substance of my post. Possibly he is unable to refute anything I said but does not like that I said it.



> What's the matter? Didn't you make your High School team? I
> went to a NYC High School that didn't lose for four
> consecutive seasons and produced one NFL Player and three
> NCAA All Americans but never played before more than 50
> people! (And those were mostly girlfriends of players
> waiting to go out after the game!) I wish I had some
> community support like there is in PA.
>
> Joe Thomas
>
> PS, Get over whatever your problem with route 81 is, they
> ain't Clear Channel, Entercom or even Forever Broadcasting.
> I know, I've worked for 'em all.
>
 
> AFAIK, I believe WRDV only carries the annual T-giving day
> game with Upper Moreland vs. Hatboro-Horsham?

For the past few years WRDV has done some Friday night games during the season, with Country Gold Classics on at halftime & afterwards. Not sure if they still do Saturday afternoon games. I know they usually do some William Tennett games, as they did back in the WCSD days when they were part of the Centennial district. They started doing the UM-HH game after Tennett stopped playing on Thanksgiving. Way back when I was at UM nobody carried the game, now its also on cable tv the next week, too! Back then WNPV always did the North Penn-Wissahickon game, and WBUX was CB East vs. West.
 
WVCH will be carrying Cardinal O' Hara and Strath Haven games plus Widener University as well.


Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740


Chester/Philadelphia
 
Re: Easy money

Mr. Thomas disagrees with your supercilious jackass attitude. Mr. Thomas has NEVER made my employment a secret but since 'stock-boy needs my resume; WCOJ, mornings; before that CC's WLAN-fm, mornings; before that Entercom's WTSS-mornings; Forever's WBHV-mornings, WALK-fm, WNEW-fm, WLFX, WPXC, WRVV, WRCN and WMJV. Satisfied? How about you, "Bierk" what do YOU know from 'easy money?' Have you ever made any in radio? Or are you more interested in remaining one of the multitude of anonymous character assasins that inhabit Radio-Info? Well? Do you HAVE game or ARE you game?

Joe Thomas
WCOJ-Morning host
5:30am-10am
Studio line (610) 701-4294<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by talkinthewalk on 08/18/05 10:17 PM.</FONT></P>
 
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