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Home HD Radio Proliferating from Twice, This week in consumer electronics

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By Joseph Palenchar -- TWICE, 9/22/2006 11:00:00 AM

New York – At least 21 HD Radio SKUs for the home will be available from 14 brands by November, according to suppliers and HD Radio inventor iBiquity Digital.

Three more custom-install-oriented suppliers will follow with their own products by the end of the year, iBiquity added without naming names.

HD Radio in the autosound aftermarket also got a boost with the price but of a JVC CD-receiver with integrated HD Radio to $199 from $299, iBiquity said.

The latest home products — all supporting HD Radio multicasting — include tabletop radios, component tuners and the industry’s first three-piece CD shelf system with HD Radio. That model, the HDX3, will be sold exclusively through RadioShack at $299 with two-way speakers.

The following companies recently announced plans for their first home HD Radio tuners: Cambridge SoundWorks, Denon, Integra, Niles, Onkyo and Sangean. Other first-time HD Radio suppliers by November will also include Rotel and RadioShack, which has offered the Boston Acoustics Recepter HD table radio but will begin offering two exclusive models in the fourth quarter.

Yamaha has discontinued its sole HD Radio, a $1,899-suggested A/V receiver launched last year.

Companies already shipping home HD Radio include Boston Acoustics, Day Sequerra, Polk, Radiosophy, and Audio Design Associates, whose tuner car fits into four custom-install products.

Here’s an update of what’s new:

Cambridge SoundWorks: The company plans November shipments of its first two HD Radios, the $299 SoundWorks Radio 820HD stereo table radio and the $299 component SoundWorks Tuner 850HD. Both will be available direct to consumers from the company through its Web site, telemarketing operation and its retail/custom-installation stores. The products will also be available to select third-party retailers. Cambridge already has partnerships with such consumer electronics retailers as Fry’s Electronics, J&R Music and Computer World and Amazon.com.

In addition, Cambridge is making the component tuner available through distributors to the custom-install channel, although it won’t mark Cambridge’s entry into the custom channel. “Traditionally, we’ve had a number of select resellers in the marketplace — some of them pure specialty retailers and some custom focused,” a spokeswoman said. The table radio will support FM station simulcasting and display up-to-the-minute text information, such as artist and song IDs, traffic alerts, sports scores and more. An auxiliary input is available for connection to audio sources such as MP3 players and portable CD players.

Like the table radio, the rack-mount component tuner also supports multicasting and data casting. For installers, it adds three audio outputs, two digital and one analog, for installation flexibility, as well as a vocabulary of commands to support custom-installed remote in-wall control panels. It also comes with IR remote, “F” connector input for FM antennas, and external AM antenna with a long signal lead.

Denon: The new DRA-697CI A/V receiver at $599 accommodates an optional $300 HD Radio tuner card that can be installed as an upgrade at the factory. It will be available in November.

Integra: The brand’s first HD Radio device is a $300-suggested tuner card that supports analog-FM RDS and is XM-ready. It or a $100 analog-AM/FM tuner card slips into the $250 TUN-3.7 tuner. For custom-installed multiroom audio systems, up to three tuners can be stacked, each controlled separately via separate IR code sets. The tuners ship in October.

The radio modules also fit into Integra’s modular DTR-10.5 A/V receiver, which starts at $3,800, and with the Integra Research RDC-7 preamp processor.

The modules also fit into a sister brand product: Onkyo’s flagship modular TX-NR1000 A/V receiver, which retails up to $4,999.

Niles: The custom-install supplier plans November shipments of a $399-sugggested HD Radio tuner module for its receiver-based IntelliControl ICS multiroom audio system, whose two-way RF remote and in-wall controls display HD Radio metadata, including . Niles also offers Sirius and XM modules for the system.

RadioShack: The retailer plans to offer two new models, both exclusively. One is the Accurian-branded tabletop radio at $199 and the HDX3 three-piece shelf system with CD, two-way speakers, and aux input at $299. It was to bear another brand name. Additional details were unavailable.

The chain already offers the $299 Boston Acoustics Recepter HD table radio.

Rotel: A long-awaited component tuner had been delayed but will ship this year, possibly as soon as November, the company said. Pricing hasn’t been determined.

Sangean America: The Taiwan-based maker of tabletop, portable, pocket and shortwave radios plans mid-November shipments of its first two HD Radios. They are the HDT-1 component tuner priced less than $200 and the HDR-1 Tabletop Radio, which will be priced for less than $250.

Both are multicast capable and feature screens for displaying scrolling text. The HDT-1 component tuner adds analog-FM RBDS capabilities.

The HDR-1 tabletop is a wood-grained model with remote control and a digital output that allows it to be extended to an existing home theater system. The HDR-1 also includes a plug-in to accommodate an MP3 player.

During the CEDIA Expo, custom install supplier NuVo said it hopes to offer HD Radio by year’s end. And Colorado vNet said it plans HD Radio but didn’t give a timetable.

Currently, 3,000 U.S. radio stations have committed to offering HD Radio, and more than 900 stations are broadcasting primary signals in HD Digital, reaching 75 percent of the U.S. population. That number is expected to expand to 1,200 stations and 90 percent of the population by the end of this year. By the end of this year, the number of stations broadcasting two or more multicast channels simultaneously is expected to grow to 450 covering the top 68 radio markets, the company said.
 
"Home HD Radio Proliferating"

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6373721.html

No, < $100 HD Radios here; cheapest is still $199 - let's see, how many of these actually materialize ! Meanwhile, and estimated 100,000,000 analog AM/FM radios continue to be sold every year, for as cheap as $10 ! Good luck, HD Radio ! :D
 
700WLW said:
"Home HD Radio Proliferating"

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6373721.html

No, < $100 HD Radios here; cheapest is still $199 - let's see, how many of these actually materialize ! Meanwhile, and estimated 100,000,000 analog AM/FM radios continue to be sold every year, for as cheap as $10 ! Good luck, HD Radio ! :D

So with that logic you believe that HD Television (Which has been around longer than HD radio) is also a failure. What a loser! Is there anyone who can tolerate you for more than 5 minutes? By the way, wonder what your new name will be when you get tired of WLW.
 
HDTV is a failure. The public could care less. This forced conversion timetable is not in the public interest. FCC lied about 85% rule. Congress saw $$$ and that is all. Without the government providing reduced cost convertors there would near riots in rural areas.

I have HDTV convertor, and frankly the cubing and dropouts made me so mad I went back to analog.
 
audiophile. said:
HDTV is a failure.

WRONG!!

"The public could care less."

WRONG. Have you been in a Circuit City or a Costco? They basically only sell some form of HD televisions today
You can find the few analogue sets off to the side and very few are sold. Try finding a 36 inch analogue TV in the majority of stores. Look, I only own analogue TV's but as they die they will be replaced by flat screen HD sets


"This forced conversion timetable is not in the public interest. FCC lied about 85% rule. Congress saw $$$ and that is all. Without the government providing reduced cost convertors there would near riots in rural areas."

The current analogue channels are going Bye Bye. In NY they would have been gone already if not for 9-11.

I have HDTV convertor, and frankly the cubing and dropouts made me so mad I went back to analog.


I know many people with HD sets and We have one in the lobby of my work place and then picture is fine and solid. No problems with HDTV here. I wonder if many of the anti digital camp complained about indoor plumbing when it first came around too. ;)
 
autopaint-1: So with that logic you believe that HD Television (Which has been around longer than HD radio) is also a failure. What a loser! Is there anyone who can tolerate you for more than 5 minutes? By the way, wonder what your new name will be when you get tired of WLW." :D

Actually, I was thinking about, "IBOC->GIGO" - do you like that one ? :D BTW, next time you post an article, just post the title, then a link to it.

Meanwhile,

autopaint-1: "I know many people with HD sets and We have one in the lobby of my work place and then picture is fine and solid. No problems with HDTV here. I wonder if many of the anti digital camp complained about indoor plumbing when it first came around too."

Still, the same old HD Radio mindset - hey, it's about CONTENT !
 
I know many people with HD sets and We have one in the lobby of my work place and then picture is fine and solid. No problems with HDTV here. I wonder if many of the anti digital camp complained about indoor plumbing when it first came around too.

What type TV antenna do you have it hooked to? Rabbit ears? LOL! As people with the HD radio's Recepter are reporting and outdoor is antenna is recommended, if not required, for mute-free reception.

Moving cars in the parking lot caused cubing in intial HDTV tests with Sarnoff labs with outdoor antennas.
 
audiophile. said:
HDTV is a failure. The public could care less. This forced conversion timetable is not in the public interest. FCC lied about 85% rule. Congress saw $$$ and that is all. Without the government providing reduced cost convertors there would near riots in rural areas.

I have HDTV convertor, and frankly the cubing and dropouts made me so mad I went back to analog.

From a consumer's standpoint, I don't think HDTV is a failure at all. I've had a set for about three years and I'm a happy camper. It works fine. In fact, I'm planning on purchasing another in the near future. Most of the local stations are now offering HDTV off the air signals and I can receive them with no problem. As for a marketing success, let's put it this way: When the over 50% of the TVs on display at the Wal-Mart in Kilgore, Texas are HDTV capable, it is hard to persuade me that there isn't a market for this product. Wal-Mart doesn't mess around with products that don't sell.

On the other hand, I really don't see much in it for the local broadcasters, many of whom I know on a personal basis. They have shelled out millions of dollars to convert and operate these things. The electric bill on a 4 million watt ERP HDTV transmitting facility is a very substantial. Currently, they are not generating significant (or any) additional revenue, even with their secondary or tertiary channels. I see that as a big problem, which will most likely be repeated with radio as it attempts to transition to digital. The good news is HD radio transmitters don't cost as much to run as a UHF TV transmitter, but put in perspective, it can be a substantial drain on a station's budget. This will go on for quite some time while the station owner waits for it to become at least marginally profitable. I don’t think everyone can afford the wait.
 
The FCC requires that many new television receivers sold in the U.S. today include the capability to receive digital TV signals. By March 2007, all TVs (and other devices that are designed to receive broadcast television signals) are required to have digital tuners built in.
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/digitaltv.html

Chuck I think the FCC DTV tuner requirements, and the looming analog TV shutdown might be a factor in Walmart's decision. They don't want to stuck with a truckload of TVs that aren't legal to sell in six months!

I wouldn't think anybody but geeks like us would pay $100-$200 extra for the DTV set. Of course people have always been willing to spend more on a TV than a radio, which doesn't bode well for HD Radio expansion.
 
audiophile. said:
Chuck I think the FCC DTV tuner requirements, and the looming analog TV shutdown might be a factor in Walmart's decision. They don't want to stuck with a truckload of TVs that aren't legal to sell in six months!

I wouldn't think anybody but geeks like us would pay $100-$200 extra for the DTV set. Of course people have always been willing to spend more on a TV than a radio, which doesn't bode well for HD Radio expansion.

Your point is a good one. Until the FCC mandated ATSC tuners in every HDTV, the whole idea was dead in the water as far as consumers were concerned. More likely, the idea of having a flat panel TV is more appealing to most people than the actual technology of high definition TV. Most folks cant' tell the difference. I've worked in and around video most of my adult life, and sometimes even I have trouble figuring out if the signal is HD or if my TV is just up-converting a very good analog signal. It really looks good.

One of my engineering friends at a recently converted TV station tells me that the only reason they signed on their DTV transmitter was because they had to by FCC mandate. Right now, it runs at a total loss. The light at the end of the tunnel as far as they are concerned is the eventual shutting down of their analog transmitter. At that point, their electric bill will go down very substantially, since the old analog transmitter is about as electrically efficient as a flat iron. In fact, they are actually looking forward to shutting down their analog signal. Most of the stations' viewers are either on cable or satellite, so they figure that the electricity and maintenance savings alone will justify the new digital transmitter and antenna. The 20% of the viewers who actually receive them over the air will either have to get converters, buy new TV’s or simply not watch. The thought is that people who won’t spend the money to adapt to new viewing requirements aren’t particularly marketable to their sponsors, so they make little difference in the great scheme of things.

There are lessons to be learned from this experience. For it to really succeed, the IBOC folks will need a similar mandate from the FCC. Otherwise, I think we may just be repeating AM stereo history.
 
Funny, I can't say you are wrong or right. Actually, the best HD I ever saw was computer generated. It was an image of a mountain range and the picture I saw looked like you were looking through a pain of glass. That said I have yet to see a real HD picture that looks that impressive. On the other hand I was able to watch the output of both HD and NTSC feeds at the network level and while the HD looked fine, IE; nice video but not overwhelming, when you saw the NTSC feed, which was across a small hallway from the HD feed, it looked like you were watching a poor VHS video. The promise of HD video is impressive, if handled properly. I've watched some flat screen sets which had serious pixilization issues. The video quality looked smeared. I think what HD/flat screen does give to television's future is that finally the aspect ratio is correct. That and the fact that NTSC (Never the same color twice) makes it worth the effort it's taking to make the switch.
 
I.B. Iquity said:
Funny, I can't say you are wrong or right.
<SNIP>
The promise of HD video is impressive, if handled properly. I've watched some flat screen sets which had serious pixilization issues. The video quality looked smeared. I think what HD/flat screen does give to television's future is that finally the aspect ratio is correct. That and the fact that NTSC (Never the same color twice) makes it worth the effort it's taking to make the switch.

As I said earlier, I am a happy camper with my HDTV. It is a DLP set and up-converts everything to the TVs native system which happens to be 720P. It makes decent NTSC video look really good. Some of the new generation 1080P sets are even more impressive. That's not to say HDTV is a cure-all for bad video. It isn't. There is a lot more to it than just pixel count.

HDTV has forced many producers into shooting in HD, even if the end product, at least for now, is NTSC. The Food Channel is a good example. Some of their stuff looks awesome, even though it is standard definition.

On balance, I think that HDTV is worth the trouble. I think digital radio is worth the trouble too, but I'm concerned that we may not be going about this in a rational way. I think the industry is capable of doing better.
 
audiophile. postulated:

HDTV is a failure. The public could care less. This forced conversion timetable is not in the public interest. FCC lied about 85% rule. Congress saw $$$ and that is all. Without the government providing reduced cost convertors there would near riots in rural areas.

Personally, I could care less about HDTV too and I agree wholeheartedly that the forced conversion timetable is NOT in the public interest. I still plug in my 75-ohm cable TV feed directly to my CRT-style TV and only watch the free, "family-plan" channels. I AM, however, interested in getting a new LCD or plasma monitor, simply because it is so much lighter than the CRTs are and they do tend to have better picture quality even with "old-style" analog-delivered TV signals plugged into them.

It is my opinion that government-mandated sunsets are a very nasty thing. When my local cable company stops providing the analog signals, then I guess I will have to worry about it but until then, I am going to be one of the last analog TV holdouts.
 
Yes, this is very true. If a product or item does not sell at Wal-Mart or Sam's Club, the product or item goes out the door.

Shark

Chuck said:
audiophile. said:
HDTV is a failure. The public could care less. This forced conversion timetable is not in the public interest. FCC lied about 85% rule. Congress saw $$$ and that is all. Without the government providing reduced cost convertors there would near riots in rural areas.

I have HDTV convertor, and frankly the cubing and dropouts made me so mad I went back to analog.

From a consumer's standpoint, I don't think HDTV is a failure at all. I've had a set for about three years and I'm a happy camper. It works fine. In fact, I'm planning on purchasing another in the near future. Most of the local stations are now offering HDTV off the air signals and I can receive them with no problem. As for a marketing success, let's put it this way: When the over 50% of the TVs on display at the Wal-Mart in Kilgore, Texas are HDTV capable, it is hard to persuade me that there isn't a market for this product. Wal-Mart doesn't mess around with products that don't sell.

On the other hand, I really don't see much in it for the local broadcasters, many of whom I know on a personal basis. They have shelled out millions of dollars to convert and operate these things. The electric bill on a 4 million watt ERP HDTV transmitting facility is a very substantial. Currently, they are not generating significant (or any) additional revenue, even with their secondary or tertiary channels. I see that as a big problem, which will most likely be repeated with radio as it attempts to transition to digital. The good news is HD radio transmitters don't cost as much to run as a UHF TV transmitter, but put in perspective, it can be a substantial drain on a station's budget. This will go on for quite some time while the station owner waits for it to become at least marginally profitable. I don’t think everyone can afford the wait.
 
Screwing the public should not be sanitized by calling it "Proliferating".
 
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