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Home Needed For A ProCaster Transmitter

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billengguy

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Does anyone know of a place I can advertise a brand new ProCaster for sale other than EBay? I had the transmitter running for app. 12 hours and was quite impressed with it's performance and audio quality. Turns out I can't use it where I am living. Should have checked deed restrictions before I bought it for outside antenna restrictions! Thanks ;)
 
Deed restrictions can be a pain, I will never live in a deed restricted area. You can place the Procaster in the attic horizontally, and still have pretty good results. You can also lower it closer to the ground, and still have fairly good results. If your neighbors are allowed to have satellite antennas, then you should be able to have Procaster outside. Selective enforcement, could be considered illegal!


If you send me the price & your contact information, I will post it on our part 15 am section.

Steve
www.radiobrandy.com
operations at radiobrandy.com
Include: PROCASTER in subject line
 
Thanks for the info. I sent the info to the above two suggestions. This is a hobby I decided to get out of as quickly as I decided to get into. No big deal. I just put my trusty little FM with the indoor antenna back into service and decided to return to broadcasting around my yard. So goes my aspirations to become the next Clear Channel ;D
 
I have a story about this subject although it has nothing to do with selling a Procaster.
I once lived in a trailer park, in fact I started my part 15 am there. Once the landlord saw the antenna, they didn't like it at all. They said I had to take it down.

Upon looking over the lease, I saw nothing "prohibiting antennas"...and I used that to make my arguement.

Now, I thought about the several things posted here: are there satelite antennas allowed?........yes in fact some people did have those and I mentioned that. Well, although it wasn't written in the lease, dishes WERE ALLOWED (probably because one of the landlords who lived in the park had one)

After mentioning that, the following years' lease contained a clause saying that dishes were allowed but no other antenna was.

A flagpole is a funny thing; our next door neighbor had a nice metal one....so they were allowed. But if an antenna were attached to one, it would be obvious. My plan was to come up with a flagpole that would disguise an antenna. I designed a pvc pipe type antenna...the antenna was inside the pole, the tx and works were all beneath ground. The problem was, it was difficult to work on (tune) and the pvc blocked the signal (probably because there was basically no room inside that tube for the signal to propagate). It DID work, and had I designed it better, maybe it would have been a solution. It somewhat needed to LOOK like a flagpole. But it didn't.

This is the idea that ALMOST worked, but didn't because of nature!.........I placed the antenna in a tree just outside my studio. In the summer, leaves covered the antenna, however some of the wires leading to the studio were visible if you were really looking for them. That was actually how I was caught by the landlord, however as soon as the leaves came down, you could see the antenna plainly. But; you really had to look way up into the tree carefully to see it. Now, that was an adventure (and a dangerous one too) climbing that tree to mount that antenna.....it had to be thirty feet up and if I fell, I would have been a dead man.

As it happened, my trailer was encased in metal siding. However I had several very large picture windows and I tried placing the antenna near one of these windows in the hopes that some signal would get out into the open. That also worked, but only to an extent as the signal was highly directional to an area I could have neglected broadcasting to. Also, the antenna was so short (the ceiling was 6'0" up) that it had a negitive effect on the signal for starters.

On the other end, Mr. Walker will attest that no matter where you live, no matter the circumstances (rent, own), there will be people who will make a point of letting you know that you are not welcome if you are the owner of some sort of radio station (and it could be a CB radio!). It could even have something to do with your format, or (shudders), personal discrimination.

I will say we have had success with indoor antennas in the past. If your house is basic wood construction and you have an attic, it's adaptable. There are a lot of things you can do.

Unfortunately I've been around the block (so has Mr. Walker) with towns and landlords regarding antennas, and because, I am guessing that most people no longer use TV antennas and CB antennas, people got used to NOT seeing them on or beside houses, instead going for cable tv or small dishes. People, not radio geeks, consider antennas ugly and it IS an issue (ask most AM station owners who NEED to move their towers...the NIMBY's are ready to protest). It's like saying you are opening a garbage dump adjacent to their back yard!

The trick here, if you want to be on the air is to come up with a way to do it without letting people see your antenna....well, you already knew that. The point of my post however was to say that some of the ideas posted I've tried, and they didn't work. Good ideas, but they were unsuccessful.

I DIDN"T try running an antenna horizontally along the roof ridge where your gutter may be. That could work. Inside a wooden shed would work, and you would have room to ground your antenna (I DID TRY THAT, and it DID work.)
 
Thousand Oaks, California is one of those wealthy snobby communities, where everyone is into everyone else's business. Case in point: One guy had an umbrella in plane site for years, without a word being said. Then word got out it was really a satellite dish disguised as an umbrella. Suddenly that perfectly acceptable umbrella became an instant eyesore to the very neighbors, who use to sit under it sipping tea during the summer. Without question, every neighbor wanted the former umbrella out! The Mayor even admitted he didn't have a problem with it when it was an umbrella, but as a satellite dish he decided it brought blight to the neighborhood. He along with the other pinhead council ordered the dish out; I'm sure the fact they were all in the tank for the cable company had nothing to do with their decision!

The AM station is gone because the city would not allow them to relocate the towers, that had to be move for development. The FM had to place the transmitter shack underground at great expense, and would only allow a 40ft blue flagpole to mount the antenna on. Prior to that, the transmitter shack was burned to the ground from a brush fire, because the city would not allow them to clear the brush away from the building.

CCR's control everything, including the display of flags; a major no no! Flagpoles are out of the question, as are swing sets, jungle gyms, or anything else your neighbor may be offended by. One guy was put in jail for storing firewood in his backyard, another had to replace curtains because a neighbor did not like the color.

Trying to set up a broadcast facility in such an area can be a nightmare, you are pretty much limited to the attic, vent pipe or rain gutters for AM. I have used rain gutters, and antennas disguised vent pipes, with pretty good results. FM antennas are allot easier to hide, or place in the attic; and still get decent results.

One Westlake Village, FM station was located in a single story condo in the very uptight community! Despite the tight CCR rules, they were still able to place the antenna. They were fortunate that the attic had plenty of vertical space, with plenty of headroom. The vertical antenna was mounted in the center of the building, and cable run down through a heater closet, and into a 2 watt transmitter. Despite the poor antenna location, the station could be herd with ease five miles away on the average radio. One advantage to the attic location: It was very hard for the typical busy body engineer to track down and harass. The station stayed on the air for years without complaint, gaining a very large and loyal audience. Unfortunately station finally went silent after the condo was sold.

Sometimes you have to raise the power a bit, to make up for the short comings of the antenna and location.


Steve
www.outlawradio.us
 
XRQKFM said:
One Westlake Village, FM station was located in a single story condo in the very uptight community! Despite the tight CCR rules, they were still able to place the antenna. They were fortunate that the attic had plenty of vertical space, with plenty of headroom. The vertical antenna was mounted in the center of the building, and cable run down through a heater closet, and into a 2 watt transmitter. Despite the poor antenna location, the station could be herd with ease five miles away on the average radio. One advantage to the attic location: It was very hard for the typical busy body engineer to track down and harass. The station stayed on the air for years without complaint, gaining a very large and loyal audience. Unfortunately station finally went silent after the condo was sold.
Steve
www.outlawradio.us

Wow! That was my station back in the 1980's. After all these years gone by, I finally see it posted on the net!

In May of 1985, I moved to Oregon, and I setup a better station in Newberg. More to follow about that.

-Glenn
 
Steve at XRQKFM set up a Procaster TX in his attic and got a solid 1/2 mile coverage. Maybe he can elaborate about it.

C5
 
Steve at XRQKFM set up a Procaster TX in his attic and got a solid 1/2 mile coverage. Maybe he can elaborate about it.
Sure C5, No problem.

The Procaster, is best for an attic set-up because of its antenna, and can be tuned with a screwdriver. My attic access is in a tight space, and having the antenna being able to collapse makes it possible. I was fortunate, because the attic had a light in it, and a electrical outlet which made the task allot easier. I simply mounted some eye hooks on the beams, and used fishing line to secure the antenna to the eye hook, (Keep in mind the set up is horizontal), the transmitter end was secured with a piece of 12 ga. electrical wire, it was that simple. For the ground, having the house use conduit made it really easy. I attached the ground wire to the J-box just below the transmitter, the cable suppling audio and power was run down to the workshop below, went back up to the attic and tuned the transmitter and it was done.

The Procaster, also works best for broadcasting on the go , like covering high school football & little league games. Most bleachers I have found are framed in steel, I simply mount the Procaster to the upper railing, for grounding I have a 10Ga wire with a car battery clamp on the other end, which is clamped onto the pipe. Tune up is done in a few minutes, and a portable studio is set up in the press box. Not having to drag processing equipment is a real plus, I would hate to see the Inovonics 222 grow legs and walk off during a game! For some little league games, we have pressed the backdrop or rain-bird into service for grounding. We are usually able to get at least a mile of good coverage during the day, night games came be a challenge, we have the best luck on 1610AM; where we may only have a weak TIS transmitter to deal with once in a while.

The Rangemaster, gives greater range, and is louder with the Inovonics 222 attached, but is best suited for permanent installation where you can plant a nice ground system and tweak it out with VOM.


Steve
www.radiobrandy.com
 
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