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Homeland Security Ads on KNX

Not the ones that credit the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration at the end. Those are ALL paid. I have contracts.
Again, not all are paid.
 
Again, not all are paid.

From NHTSA:
The campaign runs today through July 31 and is supported by a $9.5 million national media buy featuring English- and Spanish-language ads for TV, radio, and digital platforms.

Let's put it this way: The ones people see and hear are paid for. The PSA are fills for networks that local stations can cover.



The reason they pay is so they can get documentation that the stations have to provide.

That includes digital. I have to provide documentation from Facebook and X.
 
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NHTSA has both the paid campaign and PSAs through the Ad Council.

See what I said in the preceding post. My point is the federal government supports commercial radio & TV.

In my square foot of the business, we don't run any PSAs. It's all paid. We just got a campaign from the Department of Education.
 
See what I said in the preceding post. My point is the federal government supports commercial radio & TV.

In my square foot of the business, we don't run any PSAs. It's all paid. We just got a campaign from the Department of Education.

I like to keep a handful around for timing fill during Sunday morning public affairs, and Ad Council is an easily accessible source.

And it was already established much earlier in the thread that the Kristi Noem ad is paid business.
 
The campaign runs today through July 31 and is supported by a $9.5 million national media buy featuring English- and Spanish-language ads for TV, radio, and digital platforms.
That is a tiny buy.

If it were in the Top 100 markets, and proportional to each market's rank, it can't have great depth of stations and frequency
 
I like to keep a handful around for timing fill during Sunday morning public affairs, and Ad Council is an easily accessible source.
That is a good purpose. Generally, at stations I programmed in the U.S. I would run all PSAs live and they had to be totally local. There were enough stations running canned AdCouncil spots and the like, so I would focus on community groups and local fund raising and similar things. Only 10", about the length of those ads in sponsored traffic reports. And on talk stations, we would do several an hour, using them as buffers going into stopsets.
 
I haven't seen any posts on this subject; am I late? Every time I hear Kristi Noem warning me that "we are coming for you; turn yourself in and self-deport" I cringe. I don't think many of the actual people these ads are targeting listen to KNX. All it does is remind me of the cruelty of the situation; that might be the point. Are these spots airing on any of the Spanish stations in town?
There's a scandal in Mexico over these messages, which were broadcast nationally on XEW-TDT. This situation led to a record-breaking reform of the telecommunications law. The new law was published 10 days ago, eliminating the regulator and granting full state control.
 
What "wartorn" countries are those?
Are you serious? You work in Radio but don't listen to the news? Various versions of "wartorn" include fleeing from government persecution and/or gang violence/threats on one's life: Honduras, El Salvador, Venezuela...just to name a few. You know...places where the higher-profile deportees who were unceremoniously stolen off the streets without Due Process a few months ago, and deported to death dungeon "nobody gets out" CECOT, in El Salvador, are from? Ex.: Andry Romero, the gay makeup artist who had just fled Venezuela last year to escape persecution was sent to El Salvador despite not ever having a gang or criminal background, was tortured for 4 months, was used as a pawn in a prisoner swap 2 weeks ago, and is now back in Venezuela. He's not being abused in a dank prison, but he might be killed for being gay, there, which is why he sought asylum in the U.S. Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Several others.
 
Are you serious? You work in Radio but don't listen to the news? Various versions of "wartorn" include fleeing from government persecution and/or gang violence/threats on one's life: Honduras, El Salvador, Venezuela...just to name a few.
Venezuela has a peaceful election that installed a socialist government several decades ago. There is no "war" there. El Salvador ended "El Problema" decades ago, also. They have an elected government that has successfully, since then, controlled the gangs operating there. Honduras has a weak economy and a disorganized very leftist administration, but there is no war there either.

To keep this about radio to some extent, El Salvador and Honduras have very free media. Venezuela does not and restricts government criticism, but it does allow private radio stations to still exist and there is an amount of "contrarian" opinion online, too.

I've worked in all those countries, along with ten or twelve others in Latin America since the mid-60's. Currently advising a "new media" project in Bolivia, in fact. There is no "war" there, either. David Gleason's illustrated biography covering 64 years in radio

Nothing wrong in Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Ecuador, Colombia, Panama, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Mexico. Perú has terrible street safety issue, but they have developed a plan to try to fix that despite huge drug gang influence. Nicaragua is "safe" bit a totalitarian socialist regime runs it, like Venezuela and Cuba.
You know...places where the higher-profile deportees who were unceremoniously stolen off the streets without Due Process a few months ago, and deported to death dungeon "nobody gets out" CECOT, in El Salvador, are from?
The jail is a transit point for illegal immigrants. Those from El Salvador are kept there, the others move on. Such as in the case of Andry Romero that you mention.
Ex.: Andry Romero, the gay makeup artist who had just fled Venezuela last year to escape persecution was sent to El Salvador despite not ever having a gang or criminal background, was tortured for 4 months, was used as a pawn in a prisoner swap 2 weeks ago, and is now back in Venezuela. He's not being abused in a dank prison, but he might be killed for being gay, there, which is why he sought asylum in the U.S. Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Several others.
Whether we like it or not, there are many societies where homosexuality is either forbidden or regarded as deviant. Much of Latin America has limited tolerance, many Arab nations prohibit it and some places it can result in death. But we have an issue as to whether every LGBTQ+ person from a less tolerant nation can come to the United States.

If you are in the media in such places (at least those with private radio and TV) you have to be sensitive to local customs and beliefs. That does not mean that you can impose American values in Syria, for example; in such a situation news and commentary has to be written in a way that is sensitive to local culture whether you, here in the USA, agree with its local values.
 
To keep this about radio to some extent, El Salvador and Honduras have very free media.

Oh, FFS. This is what I meant yesterday by "baffle with bullshit". And then, David, in his response, chose to focus on "baffle" rather than "bullshit".



I'd put you on ignore and save us all this back and forth, except that to people who aren't paying close attention or know how to go look shit up, you appear authoritative from your decades of experience in Latin American nations.

You're a political partisan (and also---staggeringly---a moderator on this board) who uses the appearance of facts to bolster his case. They routinely fall apart under closer scrutiny.

In other times, that could be less of a big deal, but the partisanship is sympathetic toward and in support of authoritarian candidates, policies and propaganda which are very much an issue in this country right now.
 
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Are you serious? You work in Radio but don't listen to the news? Various versions of "wartorn" include fleeing from government persecution and/or gang violence/threats on one's life: Honduras, El Salvador, Venezuela...just to name a few. You know...places where the higher-profile deportees who were unceremoniously stolen off the streets without Due Process a few months ago, and deported to death dungeon "nobody gets out" CECOT, in El Salvador, are from? Ex.: Andry Romero, the gay makeup artist who had just fled Venezuela last year to escape persecution was sent to El Salvador despite not ever having a gang or criminal background, was tortured for 4 months, was used as a pawn in a prisoner swap 2 weeks ago, and is now back in Venezuela. He's not being abused in a dank prison, but he might be killed for being gay, there, which is why he sought asylum in the U.S. Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Several others.
Abrego being the target of a government-wide slander campaign.
 
Venezuela has a peaceful election that installed a socialist government several decades ago. There is no "war" there. El Salvador ended "El Problema" decades ago, also. They have an elected government that has successfully, since then, controlled the gangs operating there. Honduras has a weak economy and a disorganized very leftist administration, but there is no war there either.

To keep this about radio to some extent, El Salvador and Honduras have very free media. Venezuela does not and restricts government criticism, but it does allow private radio stations to still exist and there is an amount of "contrarian" opinion online, too.

I've worked in all those countries, along with ten or twelve others in Latin America since the mid-60's. Currently advising a "new media" project in Bolivia, in fact. There is no "war" there, either. David Gleason's illustrated biography covering 64 years in radio

Nothing wrong in Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Ecuador, Colombia, Panama, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Mexico. Perú has terrible street safety issue, but they have developed a plan to try to fix that despite huge drug gang influence. Nicaragua is "safe" bit a totalitarian socialist regime runs it, like Venezuela and Cuba.

The jail is a transit point for illegal immigrants. Those from El Salvador are kept there, the others move on. Such as in the case of Andry Romero that you mention.

Whether we like it or not, there are many societies where homosexuality is either forbidden or regarded as deviant. Much of Latin America has limited tolerance, many Arab nations prohibit it and some places it can result in death. But we have an issue as to whether every LGBTQ+ person from a less tolerant nation can come to the United States.

If you are in the media in such places (at least those with private radio and TV) you have to be sensitive to local customs and beliefs. That does not mean that you can impose American values in Syria, for example; in such a situation news and commentary has to be written in a way that is sensitive to local culture whether you, here in the USA, agree with its local values.
CECOT is just a little resort waystation, with air conditioning and free wi-fi while waiting for their flight? No, those who have been tortured there are saying much differently. We're funding this and it's ridiculous.
 
You know, I for one would be happier if we could steer this discussion back toward the content of the DHS spots is misleading and/or whether stations should be accepting this ad buy or not.
 
You know, I for one would be happier if we could steer this discussion back toward the content of the DHS spots is misleading and/or whether stations should be accepting this ad buy or not.

*I dont think* there's anything preventing stations from refusing the ads.
 
*I dont think* there's anything preventing stations from refusing the ads.

So then the questions become, what stations aren't, why did those stations running the ads decide to do so, and are there "consequences" for not going along with the game plan?
 
So then the questions become, what stations aren't, why did those stations running the ads decide to do so, and are there "consequences" for not going along with the game plan?
Normally there wouldn’t be consequences for not running a spot like this but like former President Richard Nixon the current administration appears to be keeping an “enemies list” and using the DOJ, FCC, etc to impose consequences.
 


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