Hot 107.9 event ends in gunfire

[jal41]

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=104579

One of the peformers is wanted by police for opening fire. One man was shot and is in fair condition. One woman broke an arm after being run over by people running for the exits.

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[BIGSTICK]

Well the music speaks for itself. Does not suprise me at all.

Hip Hop- Rap needs to be shot........................

 

[AJ JAM]

I don't understand why as black people we can't have regular events without something violent going on. Not all black people go around carrying guns but damn everyone was out there just to have a good time and some ass had to mess it all up.

Now t haven't heard V103 nor HOT 107.9 run ads or have a forum about the historic upcoming election with a black man and a woman running for president, but you better believe they are running ads to protest against DeKalb closing 2 hours earlier! Really? Where are our priorities?

 

[Radio K!]

A man (or woman) is not defined by the color of his skin, his religion, his economic status, and definitely not the music he listens to, or performs. . He is defined by his choices, and his actions. If you want to blame rap music for violence. Then you also have to blame punk, metal, and country as well.

Doesn't matter what the music says. It's what the record companies can sell. And radio will react to, and play what ever the people want. And people want whatever music, or image is spoon fed them.

 

[bdcsi]

Radio K.. you are right in a sense. There is no doubt that music and video influences their target audience. The direction that hip hop wants to direct its audience, black and white, is arguably negative towards woman and society in general. In the worst case, country might go towards a fist fiight..punk.. civil disobedience towards "the man"... There has been so much violence in the hip hop community that there just should be some kind of truce called on it, but I'm a 55 year old white man.. as they say.. I don't know S--- about hip hop.. but its seems to be leading people to kill each other. somethings wrong.

BD

 

[sduncan]

Its seems to me instead of people fighting over whether or not Vick is a victim of the White man holding down the Black man. Stations like V103 and Hot 107.9 and civil rights leaders could and should start talking about the biggest threat to young African Americans and that threat is violence. There is nothing cool about a thug lifestyle that Hip-Hop can portray. Unfortunately, like other forms of music, the people that buy it cannot or refuse to seperate the music from reality. Its unfortunate that one can't go out to a night club for a good time and worry about someone packing a gun or starting a fight over something thats probaly nothing. Dr King taught and preached about non violence and it is past time to return to his teachings and try and move our society forward.

 

[Radio K!]

Radio K.. you are right in a sense. There is no doubt that music and video influences their target audience. The direction that hip hop wants to direct its audience, black and white, is arguably negative towards woman and society in general. In the worst case, country might go towards a fist fiight..punk.. civil disobedience towards "the man"... There has been so much violence in the hip hop community that there just should be some kind of truce called on it, but I'm a 55 year old white man.. as they say.. I don't know S--- about hip hop.. but its seems to be leading people to kill each other. somethings wrong.

BD

Being a 43 year old white guy who has been in the entertainment biz all my life, and having been involved with the music scenes both local, and international I still say that Hip Hop, and rap, and urban radio are not the only problem. All popular music forms can be indicted for the exploitation of violence, drugs, and any of a number of negative acts against society. Country, Punk, Metal, Rock, even Pop music all have the same negative message to some degree that Hip Hop is demonized for. Ever listen to Ashlee Simpson's big hit from a few years ago"La La"? Really listen to the lyrics, and tell me you want your teenage daughter, white, or black to emulate the image that the song is selling.

Before I start sounding like I'm a member of the PMRC (anyone remember them?) the biggest problem is personal responsibility. I like Black Sabbath, and Ozzy. I even like Slayer. But that doesn't mean I don't know that human sacrifice is bad. I love N.W.A.'s album "Straight Out Of Compton". But I know that doing a drive by on someone is wrong. Ans so does everyone else. Blaming music, or radio, Hip Hop specificly is a cope out. There are plenty of Hip Hop/Rap artists out there that have plenty of good things to say. And as for the artists that sing/rap about their world. They have the right to say it.

Radio, record companies, Hollywood, and TV all love controversy. Controversy sells. And we, the public love it. Not condoning it. Just stating a fact.

 

[Wazzie]

"Radio, record companies, Hollywood, and TV all love controversy. Controversy sells. And we, the public love it. Not condoning it. Just stating a fact".

I agree. But please, don't lump me in with the "people who love it". I hate it. I hate what it does to the younger generation, emulating hoods, gangsters, whores and the like. And don't get me started on the drug thing.

Americans that eat up this garbage deserve what they get. TV programs like "Entertainment Tonight" make me ashamed of what television has become. Call me old fashioned but I truly don't need to know who is doing who, what they are doing in their lives. I spend my time with my family & friends... I am not concerned about any of those people because, trust me, they are not concerned about me.

 

[jal41]

As we talk about this, a popular rapper (TI) got picked up by the feds for possesing weapons as a felon (he apparently tried to buy a machine gun).

It is true that any type of music can be the cause of controversy (even classical music - Wagner was anti-semitic). But I would rather have kids in sexy outfits than buried in a cemetery somewhere.

 

[inthecity]

Let's not forget the reality that Caucasian, American-born citizens are the ones buying hip hop CDs--African-American's don't even trail in comparison.

So, if radio plays what sells. Well, look at the promoter and the buyer--don't blame the manipulated.

Is it really worth pointing the finger at races? No, because at the end of the day our job as radio people, entertainers, programming managers, etc... is to sell what ever the hell we can as long as its legal and brings in money.

Let's be real.

 

[kyscott]

A man (or woman) is not defined by the color of his skin, his religion, his economic status, and definitely not the music he listens to, or performs. . He is defined by his choices, and his actions. If you want to blame rap music for violence. Then you also have to blame punk, metal, and country as well.

I can't recall gunfire ever breaking out after a Sex Pistols, Led Zeppelin or George Strait concert.

Doesn't matter what the music says. It's what the record companies can sell. And radio will react to, and play what ever the people want. And people want whatever music, or image is spoon fed them.

So, you are saying they are victims. They can't help it. They are being sucked into whatever the record labels are giving them.

Bull squeeze. You just said that people are defined by the choices they make. They choose to buy into this thuggish behavior. That's what they are defined as, nothing but thugs. Rap music is a contributing factor.

 

[winreader]

A man (or woman) is not defined by the color of his skin, his religion, his economic status, and definitely not the music he listens to, or performs. . He is defined by his choices, and his actions. If you want to blame rap music for violence. Then you also have to blame punk, metal, and country as well.

Then what are they defined by?

Why are there virtually no shoot 'em ups at country concerts or rock concerts?

 

[Nate Wesley]

I can't recall gunfire ever breaking out after a Sex Pistols, Led Zeppelin or George Strait concert.

But I'll bet there are people who have killed, raped, molested, or beaten others who happen to be fans of the very acts you mentioned. The fact that these acts didn't necessarily happen near a crowd is irrelevant--they still committed an act of illegal aggression against another.

You just said that people are defined by the choices they make. They choose to buy into this thuggish behavior. That's what they are defined as, nothing but thugs. Rap music is a contributing factor.

Rap is a contributing factor to violence and criminal behavior about as much as soap operas contributing to marriage infidelity. It does not matter if you pollute your ears with Akon or Alan Jackson--if you're a fool, you'll probably act foolish.

 

[Radio K!]

A man (or woman) is not defined by the color of his skin, his religion, his economic status, and definitely not the music he listens to, or performs. . He is defined by his choices, and his actions. If you want to blame rap music for violence. Then you also have to blame punk, metal, and country as well.

I can't recall gunfire ever breaking out after a Sex Pistols, Led Zeppelin or George Strait concert.

Doesn't matter what the music says. It's what the record companies can sell. And radio will react to, and play what ever the people want. And people want whatever music, or image is spoon fed them.

So, you are saying they are victims. They can't help it. They are being sucked into whatever the record labels are giving them.

Bull squeeze. You just said that people are defined by the choices they make. They choose to buy into this thuggish behavior. That's what they are defined as, nothing but thugs. Rap music is a contributing factor.

Actually, country music fans in Texas did in fact shoot at the Sex Pistols after their concert there. I saw a man stabbed to death at a Metallica concert I worked in the early 90's. The reason? One guy disrespected another. I've also witnessed quite a few gang riots at Punk concerts in L.A., and here in Atlanta. I've witnessed acts violence at country shows as well. If said country fans were wearing "bling", and sneakers instead of jeans, and cowboy hats you'd call them thugs.

I never said they were victims. They make their own choices, which makes THEM responsible. But the record companies do exploit, and encourage the behavior.
Radio talk shows fan the flames as well. Britney Spears' meltdown is a record executives dream. I'm willing to bet my mortgage that her record company is fueling it in some way.

I've hung out at Outkast's studio here in Atlanta a lot, and met quite a few rappers, famous, and up, and coming. They walk the walk. Talk the talk. But are also intelligent, and decent people.

To state once again for the record, since people don't seem to catch it from my previous posts. I in no way am giving the jerks that make the news with the acts
a pass. They make the choices. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.

 

[MRFLASHPORT]

A man (or woman) is not defined by the color of his skin, his religion, his economic status, and definitely not the music he listens to, or performs. . He is defined by his choices, and his actions. If you want to blame rap music for violence. Then you also have to blame punk, metal, and country as well.

I can't recall gunfire ever breaking out after a Sex Pistols, Led Zeppelin or George Strait concert.

Doesn't matter what the music says. It's what the record companies can sell. And radio will react to, and play what ever the people want. And people want whatever music, or image is spoon fed them.

So, you are saying they are victims. They can't help it. They are being sucked into whatever the record labels are giving them.

Bull squeeze. You just said that people are defined by the choices they make. They choose to buy into this thuggish behavior. That's what they are defined as, nothing but thugs. Rap music is a contributing factor.

so when Columbine thugs decided to shoot up their school and were jamming to Marilyn Manson that had no influence, only rap/hip-hop music causes people to "thug out"...right. Guess you didn't get out much. Let's not forget all the people who died in a tragic night club fire in Rhode Island, those damn rock and roll bands and their dangerous flammable sets, it's all the music's fault!

Media is merely a reflection of our society's values. We buy what we want to. People intent on committing crimes are going to do so regardless. The same mentality places blame on inanimate objects (such as firearms, or alcohol, etc) and attempts to skirt the responsibility away from the offender. Sorry don't buy it. It wasn't the music/scene/weather, it comes down to the person who made the choice to commit the offense. Opportunity was there and they chose to act accordingly.

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

Now t haven't heard V103 nor HOT 107.9 run ads or have a forum about the historic upcoming election with a black man and a woman running for president, but you better believe they are running ads to protest against DeKalb closing 2 hours earlier! Really? Where are our priorities?

As far as the Dekalb issue goes its all about MONEY! Club owners, employees, promoters and radio stations will feel the affect as well as tax payers here in Dekalb. Lets not forget Q100, 95.5 THE BEAT, VIVA and EL PATRON all party in Dekalb too so lets not point fingers.

This weekend was a weekend full of entertainers and out of towners for the BET Hip-Hop Awards. The incident that happened Thursday was unfortunate and upsetting, but you can't go anywhere without putting your guards down these days. People along with the media always wanna blame hip-hop and African Americans for violence. Who do you blame when white people do violent crimes since they're the biggest consumers of hip-hop music?

 

[MRFLASHPORT]

Music doesn't incite crime...just as guns don't kill folks. It comes down to individuals who choose to commit offenses against others. Does media have the power to influence? YES of course it does, entertainment is a BUSINESS like any other BUSINESS it's a supply and demand issue. But you cannot blame the industry for the actions of a few. Again I say if a particular genre is to blame it certainly cannot be hip-hop alone, we need our US AG to go swear out warrants on Marilyn Manson, Slayer, Possessed, and other death metal bands. Why stop there what about country, start with Keith Urban all the way to Willie Nelson. Music is a reflection of society and the artists are popular with their audiences because their audience can relate to the work, some people just like the sound. I really get irritated at the mental midgets who want to blame music or art for criminal behavior.

Look I've spent a great deal of my life in public safety communications. I've seen, heard and dealt with criminals on many fronts. One thing I can say for sure is that music has NEVER played a roll in any of the situations I've handled or been involved or in contact with. It is the soundtrack of our lives, sometimes people's lives aren't always happy and don't play out like some Sinatra track or beautiful music. To blame the music is a shallow view of reality.

 

[nativeatlanta]

So,why does it seem nowadays there are more outbreaks of gunfire/gun violence at hip-hop shows than rock,pop or country shows? ???
I have attended enough rock concerts over the years & seen plenty of rednecks,biker gang members,white trash etc. I would think to myself that something bad was going to happen.

Or maybe I should blame the media for overhyping violence at hip hop shows :

 

[Radio K!]

Or maybe I should blame the media for overhyping violence at hip hop shows :
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Ya think?

 

[MRFLASHPORT]

So,why does it seem nowadays there are more outbreaks of gunfire/gun violence at hip-hop shows than rock,pop or country shows? ???
I have attended enough rock concerts over the years & seen plenty of rednecks,biker gang members,white trash etc. I would think to myself that something bad was going to happen.

Or maybe I should blame the media for overhyping violence at hip hop shows :

and many times at those events, stuff does happen but it doesn't make the mass media. Just as where I work, we have plenty of crime in Cobb county that occurs in the affluent areas that the local "when it bleeds it leads" crews never get wind of...but yet every time someone shoots off fireworks on HE Holmes or Bankhead it's a "live at five" and "breaking news" with ENG trucks almost having MVA's racing to get the first shots of a few APD officers standing around doing nothing in 1080i.

it's all spin and if you choose to believe that hip-hop is to blame for violence, than you also must accept the fact that any music could be connected to crime and violence. Like I said, the Columbine crew cranked death metal and alternative all day long, even on the morning of their murderous rampage. Does that mean music is solely to blame? Let's get real here...