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Hot 97.3
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> Tino Cochino Bolts 104.9 The Beat to Nights at Ramar's Hot
> 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
>
> You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
Churban?
They should try Hurban, I hear that Hurban is a lot better than Churban....
>
> It's EZPZ
>
Careful, you don't want to jinx it, those are infamous last words from what I hear (unless that's your point, hehehe)
All joking aside, it sounds like things are about to get a bit (ok, a LOT) more interesting for the capable folks off Avenue Q.... And for Lubbock listners in general!
Competition, the listener wins! I'm looking forward to it!
> 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
>
> You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
Churban?
They should try Hurban, I hear that Hurban is a lot better than Churban....
>
> It's EZPZ
>
Careful, you don't want to jinx it, those are infamous last words from what I hear (unless that's your point, hehehe)
All joking aside, it sounds like things are about to get a bit (ok, a LOT) more interesting for the capable folks off Avenue Q.... And for Lubbock listners in general!
Competition, the listener wins! I'm looking forward to it!
E
EasyPeazy
Guest
> Tino Cochino Bolts 104.9 The Beat to Nights at Ramar's Hot
> 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
>
> You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
>
> Should be good for a 3 share.
>
> PD is Vince Carillo Ex all around town guy and once did
> mornings at Magic.
>
> It's EZPZ
>
I predict the folks at 33 Briercroft will soon get that FM sports station they always wanted.
Ramar will be able to sell what the Briercroft crew couldn't.
Last time I checked, KBTE's audience was well over 50% Hispanic. With a fun, upbeat presentation 97.3 will be able to pull virtually all of them.
And then there's Tino. The move will totally recharge him, and he'll kick even more ass than he already was. Wilks would have to spend a lot of money to get someone comparable to move to Lubbock, and that just isn't going to happen.
With the coaching talent at Briercroft - well, let's just say they're not going to groom anyone either. Lightning is definitely not going to strike twice.
What you're about to see is the final chapter in the story of a really poorly managed hip-hop station. By this time next year, the Ramar station will be dominating both ratings and revenue - and KBTE will be a memory.
> 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
>
> You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
>
> Should be good for a 3 share.
>
> PD is Vince Carillo Ex all around town guy and once did
> mornings at Magic.
>
> It's EZPZ
>
I predict the folks at 33 Briercroft will soon get that FM sports station they always wanted.
Ramar will be able to sell what the Briercroft crew couldn't.
Last time I checked, KBTE's audience was well over 50% Hispanic. With a fun, upbeat presentation 97.3 will be able to pull virtually all of them.
And then there's Tino. The move will totally recharge him, and he'll kick even more ass than he already was. Wilks would have to spend a lot of money to get someone comparable to move to Lubbock, and that just isn't going to happen.
With the coaching talent at Briercroft - well, let's just say they're not going to groom anyone either. Lightning is definitely not going to strike twice.
What you're about to see is the final chapter in the story of a really poorly managed hip-hop station. By this time next year, the Ramar station will be dominating both ratings and revenue - and KBTE will be a memory.
WOW! Sounds like I need to make a trip out to hear all of the excitement. Competition, that's what Lubbock really needs. You folks be sure and post a listing of some of the first songs that they play.
-DM
> > Tino Cochino Bolts 104.9 The Beat to Nights at Ramar's Hot
>
> > 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
> >
> > You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
>
> Churban?
> They should try Hurban, I hear that Hurban is a lot better
> than Churban....
>
> >
> > It's EZPZ
> >
> Careful, you don't want to jinx it, those are infamous last
> words from what I hear (unless that's your point, hehehe)
>
> All joking aside, it sounds like things are about to get a
> bit (ok, a LOT) more interesting for the capable folks off
> Avenue Q.... And for Lubbock listners in general!
>
> Competition, the listener wins! I'm looking forward to it!
>
-DM
> > Tino Cochino Bolts 104.9 The Beat to Nights at Ramar's Hot
>
> > 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
> >
> > You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
>
> Churban?
> They should try Hurban, I hear that Hurban is a lot better
> than Churban....
>
> >
> > It's EZPZ
> >
> Careful, you don't want to jinx it, those are infamous last
> words from what I hear (unless that's your point, hehehe)
>
> All joking aside, it sounds like things are about to get a
> bit (ok, a LOT) more interesting for the capable folks off
> Avenue Q.... And for Lubbock listners in general!
>
> Competition, the listener wins! I'm looking forward to it!
>
I wonder what time it is debuting, so I can record it... Kiss came on the air at 6am, if I recall.
> WOW! Sounds like I need to make a trip out to hear all of
> the excitement. Competition, that's what Lubbock really
> needs. You folks be sure and post a listing of some of the
> first songs that they play.
> -DM
>
>
> > > Tino Cochino Bolts 104.9 The Beat to Nights at Ramar's
> Hot
> >
> > > 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
> > >
> > > You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
> >
> > Churban?
> > They should try Hurban, I hear that Hurban is a lot better
>
> > than Churban....
> >
> > >
> > > It's EZPZ
> > >
> > Careful, you don't want to jinx it, those are infamous
> last
> > words from what I hear (unless that's your point, hehehe)
> >
> > All joking aside, it sounds like things are about to get a
>
> > bit (ok, a LOT) more interesting for the capable folks off
>
> > Avenue Q.... And for Lubbock listners in general!
> >
> > Competition, the listener wins! I'm looking forward to it!
>
> >
>
> WOW! Sounds like I need to make a trip out to hear all of
> the excitement. Competition, that's what Lubbock really
> needs. You folks be sure and post a listing of some of the
> first songs that they play.
> -DM
>
>
> > > Tino Cochino Bolts 104.9 The Beat to Nights at Ramar's
> Hot
> >
> > > 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
> > >
> > > You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
> >
> > Churban?
> > They should try Hurban, I hear that Hurban is a lot better
>
> > than Churban....
> >
> > >
> > > It's EZPZ
> > >
> > Careful, you don't want to jinx it, those are infamous
> last
> > words from what I hear (unless that's your point, hehehe)
> >
> > All joking aside, it sounds like things are about to get a
>
> > bit (ok, a LOT) more interesting for the capable folks off
>
> > Avenue Q.... And for Lubbock listners in general!
> >
> > Competition, the listener wins! I'm looking forward to it!
>
> >
>
> I wonder what time it is debuting, so I can record it...
> Kiss came on the air at 6am, if I recall.
>
>
> > WOW! Sounds like I need to make a trip out to hear all of
>
> > the excitement. Competition, that's what Lubbock really
> > needs. You folks be sure and post a listing of some of
> the
> > first songs that they play.
> > -DM
> >
> >
> > > > Tino Cochino Bolts 104.9 The Beat to Nights at Ramar's
>
> > Hot
> > >
> > > > 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
> > > >
> > > > You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
> > >
> > > Churban?
> > > They should try Hurban, I hear that Hurban is a lot
> better
> >
> > > than Churban....
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It's EZPZ
> > > >
> > > Careful, you don't want to jinx it, those are infamous
> > last
> > > words from what I hear (unless that's your point,
> hehehe)
> > >
> > > All joking aside, it sounds like things are about to get
> a
> >
> > > bit (ok, a LOT) more interesting for the capable folks
> off
> >
> > > Avenue Q.... And for Lubbock listners in general!
> > >
> > > Competition, the listener wins! I'm looking forward to
> it!
> >
> > >
> >
>
Right now they are confusing their listeners with things like Dora the Explorer and Arabian music.
Trust Ramar to use a confusing stunt to confuse listeners rather than to intrigue listeners.
> Kiss came on the air at 6am, if I recall.
>
>
> > WOW! Sounds like I need to make a trip out to hear all of
>
> > the excitement. Competition, that's what Lubbock really
> > needs. You folks be sure and post a listing of some of
> the
> > first songs that they play.
> > -DM
> >
> >
> > > > Tino Cochino Bolts 104.9 The Beat to Nights at Ramar's
>
> > Hot
> > >
> > > > 97.3 debuting TOMMORROW!
> > > >
> > > > You wanted a Churban, you got a churban.
> > >
> > > Churban?
> > > They should try Hurban, I hear that Hurban is a lot
> better
> >
> > > than Churban....
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It's EZPZ
> > > >
> > > Careful, you don't want to jinx it, those are infamous
> > last
> > > words from what I hear (unless that's your point,
> hehehe)
> > >
> > > All joking aside, it sounds like things are about to get
> a
> >
> > > bit (ok, a LOT) more interesting for the capable folks
> off
> >
> > > Avenue Q.... And for Lubbock listners in general!
> > >
> > > Competition, the listener wins! I'm looking forward to
> it!
> >
> > >
> >
>
Right now they are confusing their listeners with things like Dora the Explorer and Arabian music.
Trust Ramar to use a confusing stunt to confuse listeners rather than to intrigue listeners.
Point by Point Looking at the Lubbock Market
> I predict the folks at 33 Briercroft will soon get that FM
> sports station they always wanted.
I highly doubt that. The money that I've heard their bringing in is incredible. A friend of mine who walked in to claim a prize told me about a banner that was congratulating sales on their biggest month EVER. So I really don't think that's it.
> Ramar will be able to sell what the Briercroft crew
> couldn't.
Wait a min. Didn't Ramar have KISS on the air and didn't Ramar give up on KISS because their sales staff couldn't sell it. With all the commericals I'm hearing on the Beat it doesn't seem to be hurting much!
> Last time I checked, KBTE's audience was well over 50%
> Hispanic. With a fun, upbeat presentation 97.3 will be able
> to pull virtually all of them.
Yeah, Right. They will be lucky to get 4 shares. Ramar doesn't know how to do Urban, Churban, Hurban right. They proved that with dismantling KISS after their biggest book ever. And The Beat beat all numbers that KISS made.
The real question is why not fill the hole that is in Lubbock, which is Alternative!
> And then there's Tino. The move will totally recharge him,
> and he'll kick even more ass than he already was. Wilks
> would have to spend a lot of money to get someone comparable
> to move to Lubbock, and that just isn't going to happen.
Tino's only concern is Tino. I doubt that Brad is going to like Tino and his 438 Posse traipsing around the studios late at night. Fox is like Fort Knox. You can't get in and they don't want to let you out.
Tino only wants to be a rap star. Success on that? Slim to none. If he spent as much effort on his show , which seemed to drop off significantly in the last couple of months, as he did trying to be a rapper he would probably hurt the Beat.
> With the coaching talent at Briercroft - well, let's just
> say they're not going to groom anyone either. Lightning is
> definitely not going to strike twice.
Every time I hear someone talking about the DOOM of a station I laugh. I remember when Wes and Jacqui left FMX mornings. Everyone said Bob and Tom were nothing.... and they were surprised. When the Z102 morning show went to Austin to do their shows from Austin everyone said that it was the end of Z102. It wasn't. When KLLL lost Jon, Rick, Jane, Kelly, Tony , it would seem to think that they would be down to a 3 share. They still are up there kicking butt.
Personalities don't make radio stations. They are the icing on the cake. If you have a great product... THAT's what a good station is about.
I've been in markets all around the US. Everytime I've heard that "That's the end for (insert station here) it always seems to be wrong.
> What you're about to see is the final chapter in the story
> of a really poorly managed hip-hop station. By this time
> next year, the Ramar station will be dominating both ratings
> and revenue - and KBTE will be a memory.
Hmm Sounds like what was heard when Robbie Cruise was leaving KBTE. All the success was his.
But then the Beat under Mr. Magoo grew better and higher shares. Hmm Maybe the success wasn't Robbie's at all.
Looking around the Lubbock Market:
Rock
----
FMX is doing a great job with lousy music coming out these days in Active Rock.
Rock 101 will drill over and over about John Boy and Billy cause they have no exciting personalities.
Pop
---
Static could get better ratings than Z102
Mix 100 sounds better each day.
Country
-------
Who cares about the retirement bin at the Bore. Next BRING BACK MICHAEL X-RAY!
KLLL has "MUDFLAP". Heritage Radio RULES!
Misc.
----
Kool 98 sounds better and better each day. Love what they have done to modernize the playlist.
Stars should be Starzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Nobody cares about AM radio
I figure that the challenges of this market will be done by the Sales people.
Because the road goes on forever and the same old stories never ends.
Everyone answer this one question,
Is the Lubbock Radio Market BETTER or WORSE than it was 5 years ago.
I'd say better because of competition.
> I predict the folks at 33 Briercroft will soon get that FM
> sports station they always wanted.
I highly doubt that. The money that I've heard their bringing in is incredible. A friend of mine who walked in to claim a prize told me about a banner that was congratulating sales on their biggest month EVER. So I really don't think that's it.
> Ramar will be able to sell what the Briercroft crew
> couldn't.
Wait a min. Didn't Ramar have KISS on the air and didn't Ramar give up on KISS because their sales staff couldn't sell it. With all the commericals I'm hearing on the Beat it doesn't seem to be hurting much!
> Last time I checked, KBTE's audience was well over 50%
> Hispanic. With a fun, upbeat presentation 97.3 will be able
> to pull virtually all of them.
Yeah, Right. They will be lucky to get 4 shares. Ramar doesn't know how to do Urban, Churban, Hurban right. They proved that with dismantling KISS after their biggest book ever. And The Beat beat all numbers that KISS made.
The real question is why not fill the hole that is in Lubbock, which is Alternative!
> And then there's Tino. The move will totally recharge him,
> and he'll kick even more ass than he already was. Wilks
> would have to spend a lot of money to get someone comparable
> to move to Lubbock, and that just isn't going to happen.
Tino's only concern is Tino. I doubt that Brad is going to like Tino and his 438 Posse traipsing around the studios late at night. Fox is like Fort Knox. You can't get in and they don't want to let you out.
Tino only wants to be a rap star. Success on that? Slim to none. If he spent as much effort on his show , which seemed to drop off significantly in the last couple of months, as he did trying to be a rapper he would probably hurt the Beat.
> With the coaching talent at Briercroft - well, let's just
> say they're not going to groom anyone either. Lightning is
> definitely not going to strike twice.
Every time I hear someone talking about the DOOM of a station I laugh. I remember when Wes and Jacqui left FMX mornings. Everyone said Bob and Tom were nothing.... and they were surprised. When the Z102 morning show went to Austin to do their shows from Austin everyone said that it was the end of Z102. It wasn't. When KLLL lost Jon, Rick, Jane, Kelly, Tony , it would seem to think that they would be down to a 3 share. They still are up there kicking butt.
Personalities don't make radio stations. They are the icing on the cake. If you have a great product... THAT's what a good station is about.
I've been in markets all around the US. Everytime I've heard that "That's the end for (insert station here) it always seems to be wrong.
> What you're about to see is the final chapter in the story
> of a really poorly managed hip-hop station. By this time
> next year, the Ramar station will be dominating both ratings
> and revenue - and KBTE will be a memory.
Hmm Sounds like what was heard when Robbie Cruise was leaving KBTE. All the success was his.
But then the Beat under Mr. Magoo grew better and higher shares. Hmm Maybe the success wasn't Robbie's at all.
Looking around the Lubbock Market:
Rock
----
FMX is doing a great job with lousy music coming out these days in Active Rock.
Rock 101 will drill over and over about John Boy and Billy cause they have no exciting personalities.
Pop
---
Static could get better ratings than Z102
Mix 100 sounds better each day.
Country
-------
Who cares about the retirement bin at the Bore. Next BRING BACK MICHAEL X-RAY!
KLLL has "MUDFLAP". Heritage Radio RULES!
Misc.
----
Kool 98 sounds better and better each day. Love what they have done to modernize the playlist.
Stars should be Starzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Nobody cares about AM radio
I figure that the challenges of this market will be done by the Sales people.
Because the road goes on forever and the same old stories never ends.
Everyone answer this one question,
Is the Lubbock Radio Market BETTER or WORSE than it was 5 years ago.
I'd say better because of competition.
E
EasyPeazy
Guest
Re: Point by Point Looking at the Lubbock Market
> > I predict the folks at 33 Briercroft will soon get that FM
>
> > sports station they always wanted.
>
> I highly doubt that. The money that I've heard their
> bringing in is incredible. A friend of mine who walked in
> to claim a prize told me about a banner that was
> congratulating sales on their biggest month EVER. So I
> really don't think that's it.
Hey, they weren't really able to sell Mix and Rock 101 anywhere near their potential for years - and with huge numbers, The Beat was lagging them. They may be getting a few big national buys (that will be going away in two books with the new format on 97.3) but if that station is making money, that pretty much has to be it.
The FM sports thing would be a huge mistake - but hey - that's what the people running Lubbock wanted in the first place. Corporate forced hip-hop on them. Just shows you the kind of brainpower they've got there - not much.
> > Ramar will be able to sell what the Briercroft crew
> > couldn't.
>
> Wait a min. Didn't Ramar have KISS on the air and didn't
> Ramar give up on KISS because their sales staff couldn't
> sell it. With all the commericals I'm hearing on the Beat
> it doesn't seem to be hurting much!
The only thing I've ever heard about the demise of KISS is that the owner of Ramar HATES hip-hop. Obviously, his love of money has overcome his hatred of the format.
> > Last time I checked, KBTE's audience was well over 50%
> > Hispanic. With a fun, upbeat presentation 97.3 will be
> able
> > to pull virtually all of them.
> Yeah, Right. They will be lucky to get 4 shares. Ramar
> doesn't know how to do Urban, Churban, Hurban right. They
> proved that with dismantling KISS after their biggest book
> ever.
Ramar might not, but they've hired a consultancy that does. If they get out of their way and let them do their thing, they'll have a winner.
> > And then there's Tino. The move will totally recharge
> him,
> > and he'll kick even more ass than he already was. Wilks
> > would have to spend a lot of money to get someone
> comparable
> > to move to Lubbock, and that just isn't going to happen.
>
> Tino's only concern is Tino. I doubt that Brad is going to
> like Tino and his 438 Posse traipsing around the studios
> late at night. Fox is like Fort Knox. You can't get in and
> they don't want to let you out.
Most people learn from their mistakes - I'm betting Brad Moran has learned from his with KISS. I don't know the guy personally, but he's built a little media empire there in Lubbock. He obviously has some ability to learn and adapt. Like I said before - watching Tino and his crew walk through the building might make Brad grit his teeth, but the numbers he'll deliver will help generate a lot of bling.
> Tino only wants to be a rap star. Success on that? Slim to
> none. If he spent as much effort on his show , which seemed
> to drop off significantly in the last couple of months, as
> he did trying to be a rapper he would probably hurt the
> Beat.
Tino lives the lifestyle. Rhythmic CHR is probably the one format where you really can't fake it. He has credibility with the Texas artists. That can't hurt him.
> > With the coaching talent at Briercroft - well, let's just
> > say they're not going to groom anyone either. Lightning
> is
> > definitely not going to strike twice.
> Every time I hear someone talking about the DOOM of a
> station I laugh. I remember when Wes and Jacqui left FMX
> mornings. Everyone said Bob and Tom were nothing.... and
> they were surprised. When the Z102 morning show went to
> Austin to do their shows from Austin everyone said that it
> was the end of Z102. It wasn't. When KLLL lost Jon, Rick,
> Jane, Kelly, Tony , it would seem to think that they would
> be down to a 3 share. They still are up there kicking butt.
The Beat might not go away, but the national buys most definitely will. Z102 was able to maintain because of its format exclusivity and the local sales force that Scott and his crew built.
> I've been in markets all around the US. Everytime I've
> heard that "That's the end for (insert station here) it
> always seems to be wrong.
Well, I'm rarely wrong. Like I said, it may not go away (what else could they use that pea-shooter signal for? Alternative? Hmmm...) but with the debut of this format on Ramar's signal, The Beat will AT LEAST get cut in half. You've gotta remember - CHR and CHR Rhythmic have fickle audiences. They'll drop you at the drop of a hat - that, and Ramar has the promotional muscle (remember - they own the Fox TV affiliate - and are apparently already using it) to blow this thing up. What has The Beat ever had? A rolling toaster... That's about it.
> > What you're about to see is the final chapter in the story
> > of a really poorly managed hip-hop station. By this time
> > next year, the Ramar station will be dominating both
> ratings
> > and revenue - and KBTE will be a memory.
>
> Hmm Sounds like what was heard when Robbie Cruise was
> leaving KBTE. All the success was his.
>
> But then the Beat under Mr. Magoo grew better and higher
> shares. Hmm Maybe the success wasn't Robbie's at all.
Well, The Beat launched with over a 10 share 12+ under Robbie's direction, and grew from there. The best KLZK ever did as a rhythmic was an 8 something. Robbie fought the battle and won it - quickly. Magoo has had the luxury of taking a station that was already a winner and coasting without any competition (remember - Z102 totally abandoned any notion of competing with The Beat right after The Beat's first book and took a very pop/rock/adult CHR lean.)
Where Magoo, and the entire crew at 33 Briercroft should feel insulted is that Ramar and a very well respected national consultancy heard their station and said "Yeah - that's beatable - let's do it."
I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be happening if Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge there had actually let him continue to do what made the station successful in the first place - instead of bogging him down with endless commercial production, worries of shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio, frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
> > I predict the folks at 33 Briercroft will soon get that FM
>
> > sports station they always wanted.
>
> I highly doubt that. The money that I've heard their
> bringing in is incredible. A friend of mine who walked in
> to claim a prize told me about a banner that was
> congratulating sales on their biggest month EVER. So I
> really don't think that's it.
Hey, they weren't really able to sell Mix and Rock 101 anywhere near their potential for years - and with huge numbers, The Beat was lagging them. They may be getting a few big national buys (that will be going away in two books with the new format on 97.3) but if that station is making money, that pretty much has to be it.
The FM sports thing would be a huge mistake - but hey - that's what the people running Lubbock wanted in the first place. Corporate forced hip-hop on them. Just shows you the kind of brainpower they've got there - not much.
> > Ramar will be able to sell what the Briercroft crew
> > couldn't.
>
> Wait a min. Didn't Ramar have KISS on the air and didn't
> Ramar give up on KISS because their sales staff couldn't
> sell it. With all the commericals I'm hearing on the Beat
> it doesn't seem to be hurting much!
The only thing I've ever heard about the demise of KISS is that the owner of Ramar HATES hip-hop. Obviously, his love of money has overcome his hatred of the format.
> > Last time I checked, KBTE's audience was well over 50%
> > Hispanic. With a fun, upbeat presentation 97.3 will be
> able
> > to pull virtually all of them.
> Yeah, Right. They will be lucky to get 4 shares. Ramar
> doesn't know how to do Urban, Churban, Hurban right. They
> proved that with dismantling KISS after their biggest book
> ever.
Ramar might not, but they've hired a consultancy that does. If they get out of their way and let them do their thing, they'll have a winner.
> > And then there's Tino. The move will totally recharge
> him,
> > and he'll kick even more ass than he already was. Wilks
> > would have to spend a lot of money to get someone
> comparable
> > to move to Lubbock, and that just isn't going to happen.
>
> Tino's only concern is Tino. I doubt that Brad is going to
> like Tino and his 438 Posse traipsing around the studios
> late at night. Fox is like Fort Knox. You can't get in and
> they don't want to let you out.
Most people learn from their mistakes - I'm betting Brad Moran has learned from his with KISS. I don't know the guy personally, but he's built a little media empire there in Lubbock. He obviously has some ability to learn and adapt. Like I said before - watching Tino and his crew walk through the building might make Brad grit his teeth, but the numbers he'll deliver will help generate a lot of bling.
> Tino only wants to be a rap star. Success on that? Slim to
> none. If he spent as much effort on his show , which seemed
> to drop off significantly in the last couple of months, as
> he did trying to be a rapper he would probably hurt the
> Beat.
Tino lives the lifestyle. Rhythmic CHR is probably the one format where you really can't fake it. He has credibility with the Texas artists. That can't hurt him.
> > With the coaching talent at Briercroft - well, let's just
> > say they're not going to groom anyone either. Lightning
> is
> > definitely not going to strike twice.
> Every time I hear someone talking about the DOOM of a
> station I laugh. I remember when Wes and Jacqui left FMX
> mornings. Everyone said Bob and Tom were nothing.... and
> they were surprised. When the Z102 morning show went to
> Austin to do their shows from Austin everyone said that it
> was the end of Z102. It wasn't. When KLLL lost Jon, Rick,
> Jane, Kelly, Tony , it would seem to think that they would
> be down to a 3 share. They still are up there kicking butt.
The Beat might not go away, but the national buys most definitely will. Z102 was able to maintain because of its format exclusivity and the local sales force that Scott and his crew built.
> I've been in markets all around the US. Everytime I've
> heard that "That's the end for (insert station here) it
> always seems to be wrong.
Well, I'm rarely wrong. Like I said, it may not go away (what else could they use that pea-shooter signal for? Alternative? Hmmm...) but with the debut of this format on Ramar's signal, The Beat will AT LEAST get cut in half. You've gotta remember - CHR and CHR Rhythmic have fickle audiences. They'll drop you at the drop of a hat - that, and Ramar has the promotional muscle (remember - they own the Fox TV affiliate - and are apparently already using it) to blow this thing up. What has The Beat ever had? A rolling toaster... That's about it.
> > What you're about to see is the final chapter in the story
> > of a really poorly managed hip-hop station. By this time
> > next year, the Ramar station will be dominating both
> ratings
> > and revenue - and KBTE will be a memory.
>
> Hmm Sounds like what was heard when Robbie Cruise was
> leaving KBTE. All the success was his.
>
> But then the Beat under Mr. Magoo grew better and higher
> shares. Hmm Maybe the success wasn't Robbie's at all.
Well, The Beat launched with over a 10 share 12+ under Robbie's direction, and grew from there. The best KLZK ever did as a rhythmic was an 8 something. Robbie fought the battle and won it - quickly. Magoo has had the luxury of taking a station that was already a winner and coasting without any competition (remember - Z102 totally abandoned any notion of competing with The Beat right after The Beat's first book and took a very pop/rock/adult CHR lean.)
Where Magoo, and the entire crew at 33 Briercroft should feel insulted is that Ramar and a very well respected national consultancy heard their station and said "Yeah - that's beatable - let's do it."
I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be happening if Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge there had actually let him continue to do what made the station successful in the first place - instead of bogging him down with endless commercial production, worries of shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio, frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
Re: Point by Point Looking at the Lubbock Market
> > > I predict the folks at 33 Briercroft will soon get that
> FM
> >
> > > sports station they always wanted.
> >
> > I highly doubt that. The money that I've heard their
> > bringing in is incredible. A friend of mine who walked in
>
> > to claim a prize told me about a banner that was
> > congratulating sales on their biggest month EVER. So I
> > really don't think that's it.
>
> Hey, they weren't really able to sell Mix and Rock 101
> anywhere near their potential for years - and with huge
> numbers, The Beat was lagging them. They may be getting a
> few big national buys (that will be going away in two books
> with the new format on 97.3) but if that station is making
> money, that pretty much has to be it.
>
> The FM sports thing would be a huge mistake - but hey -
> that's what the people running Lubbock wanted in the first
> place. Corporate forced hip-hop on them. Just shows you
> the kind of brainpower they've got there - not much.
>
> > > Ramar will be able to sell what the Briercroft crew
> > > couldn't.
> >
> > Wait a min. Didn't Ramar have KISS on the air and didn't
> > Ramar give up on KISS because their sales staff couldn't
> > sell it. With all the commericals I'm hearing on the Beat
>
> > it doesn't seem to be hurting much!
>
> The only thing I've ever heard about the demise of KISS is
> that the owner of Ramar HATES hip-hop. Obviously, his love
> of money has overcome his hatred of the format.
>
> > > Last time I checked, KBTE's audience was well over 50%
> > > Hispanic. With a fun, upbeat presentation 97.3 will be
> > able
> > > to pull virtually all of them.
>
> > Yeah, Right. They will be lucky to get 4 shares. Ramar
> > doesn't know how to do Urban, Churban, Hurban right. They
>
> > proved that with dismantling KISS after their biggest book
>
> > ever.
>
> Ramar might not, but they've hired a consultancy that does.
> If they get out of their way and let them do their thing,
> they'll have a winner.
>
> > > And then there's Tino. The move will totally recharge
> > him,
> > > and he'll kick even more ass than he already was. Wilks
>
> > > would have to spend a lot of money to get someone
> > comparable
> > > to move to Lubbock, and that just isn't going to happen.
>
> >
> > Tino's only concern is Tino. I doubt that Brad is going
> to
> > like Tino and his 438 Posse traipsing around the studios
> > late at night. Fox is like Fort Knox. You can't get in
> and
> > they don't want to let you out.
>
> Most people learn from their mistakes - I'm betting Brad
> Moran has learned from his with KISS. I don't know the guy
> personally, but he's built a little media empire there in
> Lubbock. He obviously has some ability to learn and adapt.
> Like I said before - watching Tino and his crew walk through
> the building might make Brad grit his teeth, but the numbers
> he'll deliver will help generate a lot of bling.
>
> > Tino only wants to be a rap star. Success on that? Slim
> to
> > none. If he spent as much effort on his show , which
> seemed
> > to drop off significantly in the last couple of months, as
>
> > he did trying to be a rapper he would probably hurt the
> > Beat.
>
> Tino lives the lifestyle. Rhythmic CHR is probably the one
> format where you really can't fake it. He has credibility
> with the Texas artists. That can't hurt him.
>
> > > With the coaching talent at Briercroft - well, let's
> just
> > > say they're not going to groom anyone either. Lightning
>
> > is
> > > definitely not going to strike twice.
>
> > Every time I hear someone talking about the DOOM of a
> > station I laugh. I remember when Wes and Jacqui left FMX
> > mornings. Everyone said Bob and Tom were nothing.... and
> > they were surprised. When the Z102 morning show went to
> > Austin to do their shows from Austin everyone said that it
>
> > was the end of Z102. It wasn't. When KLLL lost Jon,
> Rick,
> > Jane, Kelly, Tony , it would seem to think that they would
>
> > be down to a 3 share. They still are up there kicking
> butt.
>
> The Beat might not go away, but the national buys most
> definitely will. Z102 was able to maintain because of its
> format exclusivity and the local sales force that Scott and
> his crew built.
>
> > I've been in markets all around the US. Everytime I've
> > heard that "That's the end for (insert station here) it
> > always seems to be wrong.
>
> Well, I'm rarely wrong. Like I said, it may not go away
> (what else could they use that pea-shooter signal for?
> Alternative? Hmmm...) but with the debut of this format on
> Ramar's signal, The Beat will AT LEAST get cut in half.
> You've gotta remember - CHR and CHR Rhythmic have fickle
> audiences. They'll drop you at the drop of a hat - that,
> and Ramar has the promotional muscle (remember - they own
> the Fox TV affiliate - and are apparently already using it)
> to blow this thing up. What has The Beat ever had? A
> rolling toaster... That's about it.
>
> > > What you're about to see is the final chapter in the
> story
> > > of a really poorly managed hip-hop station. By this
> time
> > > next year, the Ramar station will be dominating both
> > ratings
> > > and revenue - and KBTE will be a memory.
> >
> > Hmm Sounds like what was heard when Robbie Cruise was
> > leaving KBTE. All the success was his.
> >
> > But then the Beat under Mr. Magoo grew better and higher
> > shares. Hmm Maybe the success wasn't Robbie's at all.
>
> Well, The Beat launched with over a 10 share 12+ under
> Robbie's direction, and grew from there. The best KLZK ever
> did as a rhythmic was an 8 something. Robbie fought the
> battle and won it - quickly. Magoo has had the luxury of
> taking a station that was already a winner and coasting
> without any competition (remember - Z102 totally abandoned
> any notion of competing with The Beat right after The Beat's
> first book and took a very pop/rock/adult CHR lean.)
>
> Where Magoo, and the entire crew at 33 Briercroft should
> feel insulted is that Ramar and a very well respected
> national consultancy heard their station and said "Yeah -
> that's beatable - let's do it."
>
> I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be happening if
> Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge
> there had actually let him continue to do what made the
> station successful in the first place - instead of bogging
> him down with endless commercial production, worries of
> shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset
> structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio,
> frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
I'm glad to see the efforts of Lubbock radio debated. It would be even better if there was actually something there to debate. Lubbock radio couldn't get much worse than it already is. Three group ownerships as the major players, playing their cookie cutter formats; with poverty level personalites (and I use the term personality loosely); who are just looking for more and more ways to cut overhead. As the third runner-up in this triumvirate of owners, Ramar, they couldn't be dominate in a market even if they were only competing against themselves.
>
> > > I predict the folks at 33 Briercroft will soon get that
> FM
> >
> > > sports station they always wanted.
> >
> > I highly doubt that. The money that I've heard their
> > bringing in is incredible. A friend of mine who walked in
>
> > to claim a prize told me about a banner that was
> > congratulating sales on their biggest month EVER. So I
> > really don't think that's it.
>
> Hey, they weren't really able to sell Mix and Rock 101
> anywhere near their potential for years - and with huge
> numbers, The Beat was lagging them. They may be getting a
> few big national buys (that will be going away in two books
> with the new format on 97.3) but if that station is making
> money, that pretty much has to be it.
>
> The FM sports thing would be a huge mistake - but hey -
> that's what the people running Lubbock wanted in the first
> place. Corporate forced hip-hop on them. Just shows you
> the kind of brainpower they've got there - not much.
>
> > > Ramar will be able to sell what the Briercroft crew
> > > couldn't.
> >
> > Wait a min. Didn't Ramar have KISS on the air and didn't
> > Ramar give up on KISS because their sales staff couldn't
> > sell it. With all the commericals I'm hearing on the Beat
>
> > it doesn't seem to be hurting much!
>
> The only thing I've ever heard about the demise of KISS is
> that the owner of Ramar HATES hip-hop. Obviously, his love
> of money has overcome his hatred of the format.
>
> > > Last time I checked, KBTE's audience was well over 50%
> > > Hispanic. With a fun, upbeat presentation 97.3 will be
> > able
> > > to pull virtually all of them.
>
> > Yeah, Right. They will be lucky to get 4 shares. Ramar
> > doesn't know how to do Urban, Churban, Hurban right. They
>
> > proved that with dismantling KISS after their biggest book
>
> > ever.
>
> Ramar might not, but they've hired a consultancy that does.
> If they get out of their way and let them do their thing,
> they'll have a winner.
>
> > > And then there's Tino. The move will totally recharge
> > him,
> > > and he'll kick even more ass than he already was. Wilks
>
> > > would have to spend a lot of money to get someone
> > comparable
> > > to move to Lubbock, and that just isn't going to happen.
>
> >
> > Tino's only concern is Tino. I doubt that Brad is going
> to
> > like Tino and his 438 Posse traipsing around the studios
> > late at night. Fox is like Fort Knox. You can't get in
> and
> > they don't want to let you out.
>
> Most people learn from their mistakes - I'm betting Brad
> Moran has learned from his with KISS. I don't know the guy
> personally, but he's built a little media empire there in
> Lubbock. He obviously has some ability to learn and adapt.
> Like I said before - watching Tino and his crew walk through
> the building might make Brad grit his teeth, but the numbers
> he'll deliver will help generate a lot of bling.
>
> > Tino only wants to be a rap star. Success on that? Slim
> to
> > none. If he spent as much effort on his show , which
> seemed
> > to drop off significantly in the last couple of months, as
>
> > he did trying to be a rapper he would probably hurt the
> > Beat.
>
> Tino lives the lifestyle. Rhythmic CHR is probably the one
> format where you really can't fake it. He has credibility
> with the Texas artists. That can't hurt him.
>
> > > With the coaching talent at Briercroft - well, let's
> just
> > > say they're not going to groom anyone either. Lightning
>
> > is
> > > definitely not going to strike twice.
>
> > Every time I hear someone talking about the DOOM of a
> > station I laugh. I remember when Wes and Jacqui left FMX
> > mornings. Everyone said Bob and Tom were nothing.... and
> > they were surprised. When the Z102 morning show went to
> > Austin to do their shows from Austin everyone said that it
>
> > was the end of Z102. It wasn't. When KLLL lost Jon,
> Rick,
> > Jane, Kelly, Tony , it would seem to think that they would
>
> > be down to a 3 share. They still are up there kicking
> butt.
>
> The Beat might not go away, but the national buys most
> definitely will. Z102 was able to maintain because of its
> format exclusivity and the local sales force that Scott and
> his crew built.
>
> > I've been in markets all around the US. Everytime I've
> > heard that "That's the end for (insert station here) it
> > always seems to be wrong.
>
> Well, I'm rarely wrong. Like I said, it may not go away
> (what else could they use that pea-shooter signal for?
> Alternative? Hmmm...) but with the debut of this format on
> Ramar's signal, The Beat will AT LEAST get cut in half.
> You've gotta remember - CHR and CHR Rhythmic have fickle
> audiences. They'll drop you at the drop of a hat - that,
> and Ramar has the promotional muscle (remember - they own
> the Fox TV affiliate - and are apparently already using it)
> to blow this thing up. What has The Beat ever had? A
> rolling toaster... That's about it.
>
> > > What you're about to see is the final chapter in the
> story
> > > of a really poorly managed hip-hop station. By this
> time
> > > next year, the Ramar station will be dominating both
> > ratings
> > > and revenue - and KBTE will be a memory.
> >
> > Hmm Sounds like what was heard when Robbie Cruise was
> > leaving KBTE. All the success was his.
> >
> > But then the Beat under Mr. Magoo grew better and higher
> > shares. Hmm Maybe the success wasn't Robbie's at all.
>
> Well, The Beat launched with over a 10 share 12+ under
> Robbie's direction, and grew from there. The best KLZK ever
> did as a rhythmic was an 8 something. Robbie fought the
> battle and won it - quickly. Magoo has had the luxury of
> taking a station that was already a winner and coasting
> without any competition (remember - Z102 totally abandoned
> any notion of competing with The Beat right after The Beat's
> first book and took a very pop/rock/adult CHR lean.)
>
> Where Magoo, and the entire crew at 33 Briercroft should
> feel insulted is that Ramar and a very well respected
> national consultancy heard their station and said "Yeah -
> that's beatable - let's do it."
>
> I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be happening if
> Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge
> there had actually let him continue to do what made the
> station successful in the first place - instead of bogging
> him down with endless commercial production, worries of
> shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset
> structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio,
> frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
I'm glad to see the efforts of Lubbock radio debated. It would be even better if there was actually something there to debate. Lubbock radio couldn't get much worse than it already is. Three group ownerships as the major players, playing their cookie cutter formats; with poverty level personalites (and I use the term personality loosely); who are just looking for more and more ways to cut overhead. As the third runner-up in this triumvirate of owners, Ramar, they couldn't be dominate in a market even if they were only competing against themselves.
>
R
rbrucecarter
Guest
Re: Point by Point Looking at the Lubbock Market
At the risk of being insulted again - just the other morning I heard yet another Radio Disney winner from Lubbock. This happens at least once a month or more - either a request or a contest winner. Disproportionate for a national network. These kids are either hard core AM DX'ers, or are listening on Xm / Sirius. My bet is on DX - because I have met a few out there, and introduced a few to GE Superadio 3's. With that proportion of dedicated listeners, an AM out there should flip. And that wife of one station owner I met at Whisperwood pool was not my imagination.
Alternative is definitely a hole out there. And hey - the problems on 102.5 are no worse than the problems on 106.1 in Dallas. I am meeting a growing number of dedicated KNIN 92.9 DX'ers who can't stand the ethnic stuff on 106.1.
Perhaps there is a decent top-40 the people in Lubbock can DX from Amarillo or Midland. If not KNIN which is farther from Lubbock than it is from Dallas.
Oh and two "bears" 104.7 Wichita Falls and 102.7 Abilene are underrated classic rock stations! Both deserve a listen - and an outdoor antenna.
Here's a thought for Lubbock - somebody put something new on the air that:
(1) isn't in Spanish
and (2) isn't country
and (3) isn't hip-hop
Backlash against those 3 would probably land any new station in the top 5 out there! Or at least get us rebel Radio Disney listeners to try locals again.
Man - I'm glad I don't live out there full time and have to re-align my vintage tuners and antennas for DX duty!
At the risk of being insulted again - just the other morning I heard yet another Radio Disney winner from Lubbock. This happens at least once a month or more - either a request or a contest winner. Disproportionate for a national network. These kids are either hard core AM DX'ers, or are listening on Xm / Sirius. My bet is on DX - because I have met a few out there, and introduced a few to GE Superadio 3's. With that proportion of dedicated listeners, an AM out there should flip. And that wife of one station owner I met at Whisperwood pool was not my imagination.
Alternative is definitely a hole out there. And hey - the problems on 102.5 are no worse than the problems on 106.1 in Dallas. I am meeting a growing number of dedicated KNIN 92.9 DX'ers who can't stand the ethnic stuff on 106.1.
Perhaps there is a decent top-40 the people in Lubbock can DX from Amarillo or Midland. If not KNIN which is farther from Lubbock than it is from Dallas.
Oh and two "bears" 104.7 Wichita Falls and 102.7 Abilene are underrated classic rock stations! Both deserve a listen - and an outdoor antenna.
Here's a thought for Lubbock - somebody put something new on the air that:
(1) isn't in Spanish
and (2) isn't country
and (3) isn't hip-hop
Backlash against those 3 would probably land any new station in the top 5 out there! Or at least get us rebel Radio Disney listeners to try locals again.
Man - I'm glad I don't live out there full time and have to re-align my vintage tuners and antennas for DX duty!
Re: Point by Point Looking at the Lubbock Market
I hear ya, no insult intended, but
I can't go with ya there on the Radio Disney thing...
That's just my opinion, and no insult intended. I DO think there's 3 formats Lubbock does not have that it could support:
1. Alternative. I don't mean the college rock stuff on 88.1 but more of Modern Rock sort of thing. Only trouble? Alternative is not exactly a growing format, and 94.5 probably would have them for lunch.
2. Rhythmic Oldies. That's the type of music that the Beat (and probably soon, Hot97.3) plays at lunch time. Old School Classic Jams, Disco, 80's freestyle. New York actually has two such stations, WKTU and Mix102.7, but that's New York. We had one such station here, 103.5, but it didn't seem to last too long.
3. Jack FM (or assorted versions). In fact, I really see someone doing this. Imagine the savings for a small market like this? Just plug in Winamp with a crossfader and you're done. No need for board-ops, dj's or anything, just a sales staff and transmitter. And if you go with Jack, they supply some of the, you know, stuff. Why play Classic Rock, when you can play a little bit'o Rock, a little bit'o Disco, a dash of Pop and hint of Alternative (sounds like a recipe for baking, lol).
So, I see the point that there's plenty more room for diversity here, but I can't go with you there on Donald and Mickey. By the way, with the 2 stations playing Hip-hop and and Mix doing Adult Top40, will Z102 be affected? Really, not an intended slam on the Z, but what's left for them to play?
> At the risk of being insulted again - just the other morning
> I heard yet another Radio Disney winner from Lubbock. This
> happens at least once a month or more - either a request or
> a contest winner. Disproportionate for a national network.
> These kids are either hard core AM DX'ers, or are listening
> on Xm / Sirius. My bet is on DX - because I have met a few
> out there, and introduced a few to GE Superadio 3's. With
> that proportion of dedicated listeners, an AM out there
> should flip. And that wife of one station owner I met at
> Whisperwood pool was not my imagination.
Ouch!
>
> Alternative is definitely a hole out there.
Yup!
And hey - the
> problems on 102.5 are no worse than the problems on 106.1 in
> Dallas. I am meeting a growing number of dedicated KNIN
> 92.9 DX'ers who can't stand the ethnic stuff on 106.1.
> Perhaps there is a decent top-40 the people in Lubbock can
> DX from Amarillo or Midland. If not KNIN which is farther
> from Lubbock than it is from Dallas.
>
> Oh and two "bears" 104.7 Wichita Falls and 102.7 Abilene are
> underrated classic rock stations! Both deserve a listen -
> and an outdoor antenna.
>
> Here's a thought for Lubbock - somebody put something new on
> the air that:
>
> (1) isn't in Spanish
>
> and (2) isn't country
>
> and (3) isn't hip-hop
>
We'll see.. It's more strategery than anything else!
I hear ya, no insult intended, but
I can't go with ya there on the Radio Disney thing...
That's just my opinion, and no insult intended. I DO think there's 3 formats Lubbock does not have that it could support:
1. Alternative. I don't mean the college rock stuff on 88.1 but more of Modern Rock sort of thing. Only trouble? Alternative is not exactly a growing format, and 94.5 probably would have them for lunch.
2. Rhythmic Oldies. That's the type of music that the Beat (and probably soon, Hot97.3) plays at lunch time. Old School Classic Jams, Disco, 80's freestyle. New York actually has two such stations, WKTU and Mix102.7, but that's New York. We had one such station here, 103.5, but it didn't seem to last too long.
3. Jack FM (or assorted versions). In fact, I really see someone doing this. Imagine the savings for a small market like this? Just plug in Winamp with a crossfader and you're done. No need for board-ops, dj's or anything, just a sales staff and transmitter. And if you go with Jack, they supply some of the, you know, stuff. Why play Classic Rock, when you can play a little bit'o Rock, a little bit'o Disco, a dash of Pop and hint of Alternative (sounds like a recipe for baking, lol).
So, I see the point that there's plenty more room for diversity here, but I can't go with you there on Donald and Mickey. By the way, with the 2 stations playing Hip-hop and and Mix doing Adult Top40, will Z102 be affected? Really, not an intended slam on the Z, but what's left for them to play?
> At the risk of being insulted again - just the other morning
> I heard yet another Radio Disney winner from Lubbock. This
> happens at least once a month or more - either a request or
> a contest winner. Disproportionate for a national network.
> These kids are either hard core AM DX'ers, or are listening
> on Xm / Sirius. My bet is on DX - because I have met a few
> out there, and introduced a few to GE Superadio 3's. With
> that proportion of dedicated listeners, an AM out there
> should flip. And that wife of one station owner I met at
> Whisperwood pool was not my imagination.
Ouch!
>
> Alternative is definitely a hole out there.
Yup!
And hey - the
> problems on 102.5 are no worse than the problems on 106.1 in
> Dallas. I am meeting a growing number of dedicated KNIN
> 92.9 DX'ers who can't stand the ethnic stuff on 106.1.
> Perhaps there is a decent top-40 the people in Lubbock can
> DX from Amarillo or Midland. If not KNIN which is farther
> from Lubbock than it is from Dallas.
>
> Oh and two "bears" 104.7 Wichita Falls and 102.7 Abilene are
> underrated classic rock stations! Both deserve a listen -
> and an outdoor antenna.
>
> Here's a thought for Lubbock - somebody put something new on
> the air that:
>
> (1) isn't in Spanish
>
> and (2) isn't country
>
> and (3) isn't hip-hop
>
We'll see.. It's more strategery than anything else!
Re: Last Point
> I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be happening if
> Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge
> there had actually let him continue to do what made the
> station successful in the first place - instead of bogging
> him down with endless commercial production, worries of
> shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset
> structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio,
> frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
One point on Mr. Cruze. If he was such a brilliant programmer...
Why is he an engineer in Midland-Odessa and not programming in a major, mid-major, even a small market.
He can't cut it.
> I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be happening if
> Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge
> there had actually let him continue to do what made the
> station successful in the first place - instead of bogging
> him down with endless commercial production, worries of
> shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset
> structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio,
> frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
One point on Mr. Cruze. If he was such a brilliant programmer...
Why is he an engineer in Midland-Odessa and not programming in a major, mid-major, even a small market.
He can't cut it.
Re: Point by Point Looking at the Lubbock Market
> At the risk of being insulted again - just the other morning
> I heard yet another Radio Disney winner from Lubbock. This
> happens at least once a month or more - either a request or
> a contest winner. Disproportionate for a national network.
> These kids are either hard core AM DX'ers, or are listening
> on Xm / Sirius. My bet is on DX - because I have met a few
> out there, and introduced a few to GE Superadio 3's. With
> that proportion of dedicated listeners, an AM out there
> should flip. And that wife of one station owner I met at
> Whisperwood pool was not my imagination.
That's an interesting theory especially with kids being the hard core listeners. They love their music and their passion is incredible. They are the ones who make mom and dad buy the crap that is out there today!
> Alternative is definitely a hole out there. And hey - the
> problems on 102.5 are no worse than the problems on 106.1 in
> Dallas. I am meeting a growing number of dedicated KNIN
> 92.9 DX'ers who can't stand the ethnic stuff on 106.1.
> Perhaps there is a decent top-40 the people in Lubbock can
> DX from Amarillo or Midland. If not KNIN which is farther
> from Lubbock than it is from Dallas.
Very true. What type of antenna are you using?
> Oh and two "bears" 104.7 Wichita Falls and 102.7 Abilene are
> underrated classic rock stations! Both deserve a listen -
> and an outdoor antenna.
I've driven on the way to San Antonio and heard the 102.7 Abilene Bear. Not bad at all. Personalities are dry, imaging bland but music is well done.
> Here's a thought for Lubbock - somebody put something new on
> the air that:
>
> (1) isn't in Spanish
>
> and (2) isn't country
>
> and (3) isn't hip-hop
Hmmm with 428 Spanish stations, 2 1/2 country stations (The rebel doesn't count since you can only hear them on the overpasses of Loop 289) and 1 1/2 Hip-Hop stations (I reserve judgement on Snot 97.3) I really doubt that you will see someone break the mold that has been recast again and again!
> Backlash against those 3 would probably land any new station
> in the top 5 out there! Or at least get us rebel Radio
> Disney listeners to try locals again.
Hightly doubt it. Too much fragmentation.
> Man - I'm glad I don't live out there full time and have to
> re-align my vintage tuners and antennas for DX duty!
I may need to get tuner and antenni to listen to what you are hearing.
> At the risk of being insulted again - just the other morning
> I heard yet another Radio Disney winner from Lubbock. This
> happens at least once a month or more - either a request or
> a contest winner. Disproportionate for a national network.
> These kids are either hard core AM DX'ers, or are listening
> on Xm / Sirius. My bet is on DX - because I have met a few
> out there, and introduced a few to GE Superadio 3's. With
> that proportion of dedicated listeners, an AM out there
> should flip. And that wife of one station owner I met at
> Whisperwood pool was not my imagination.
That's an interesting theory especially with kids being the hard core listeners. They love their music and their passion is incredible. They are the ones who make mom and dad buy the crap that is out there today!
> Alternative is definitely a hole out there. And hey - the
> problems on 102.5 are no worse than the problems on 106.1 in
> Dallas. I am meeting a growing number of dedicated KNIN
> 92.9 DX'ers who can't stand the ethnic stuff on 106.1.
> Perhaps there is a decent top-40 the people in Lubbock can
> DX from Amarillo or Midland. If not KNIN which is farther
> from Lubbock than it is from Dallas.
Very true. What type of antenna are you using?
> Oh and two "bears" 104.7 Wichita Falls and 102.7 Abilene are
> underrated classic rock stations! Both deserve a listen -
> and an outdoor antenna.
I've driven on the way to San Antonio and heard the 102.7 Abilene Bear. Not bad at all. Personalities are dry, imaging bland but music is well done.
> Here's a thought for Lubbock - somebody put something new on
> the air that:
>
> (1) isn't in Spanish
>
> and (2) isn't country
>
> and (3) isn't hip-hop
Hmmm with 428 Spanish stations, 2 1/2 country stations (The rebel doesn't count since you can only hear them on the overpasses of Loop 289) and 1 1/2 Hip-Hop stations (I reserve judgement on Snot 97.3) I really doubt that you will see someone break the mold that has been recast again and again!
> Backlash against those 3 would probably land any new station
> in the top 5 out there! Or at least get us rebel Radio
> Disney listeners to try locals again.
Hightly doubt it. Too much fragmentation.
> Man - I'm glad I don't live out there full time and have to
> re-align my vintage tuners and antennas for DX duty!
I may need to get tuner and antenni to listen to what you are hearing.
Re: Point by Point Looking at the Lubbock Market
> I hear ya, no insult intended, but
> I can't go with ya there on the Radio Disney thing...
I agree. Just another niche format that would fragment Lubbock even more.
> That's just my opinion, and no insult intended. I DO think
> there's 3 formats Lubbock does not have that it could
> support:
> 1. Alternative. I don't mean the college rock stuff on 88.1
> but more of Modern Rock sort of thing. Only trouble?
> Alternative is not exactly a growing format, and 94.5
> probably would have them for lunch.
Hear Hear! Alternative would be what Lubbock needs. I disagree on your point that 94.5 would have them for lunch. They are so fragmented themselves playing Heavy stuff at night, Classic Rock during the day. Bring a true Alternative on the air and 94.5 would have to pick their battle. Rock 101, even with very little personalities on the air, has improved their music and does what they do adequately. FMX wouldn't ignore the New 97.3 The Bat (God I wish I was in town to hear that, Alternative in Lubbock!) and any change would hurt 94.5 and help 97.3 and 101.1.
> 2. Rhythmic Oldies. That's the type of music that the Beat
> (and probably soon, Hot97.3) plays at lunch time. Old School
> Classic Jams, Disco, 80's freestyle. New York actually has
> two such stations, WKTU and Mix102.7, but that's New York.
> We had one such station here, 103.5, but it didn't seem to
> last too long.
Nope. Won't happen. Good for a period of one hour but it's like the Electric Slide... No Staying power!
> 3. Jack FM (or assorted versions). In fact, I really see
> someone doing this. Imagine the savings for a small market
> like this? Just plug in Winamp with a crossfader and you're
> done. No need for board-ops, dj's or anything, just a sales
> staff and transmitter. And if you go with Jack, they supply
> some of the, you know, stuff. Why play Classic Rock, when
> you can play a little bit'o Rock, a little bit'o Disco, a
> dash of Pop and hint of Alternative (sounds like a recipe
> for baking, lol).
Licensing fees would KILL and as cheap as all three radio groups are... WON'T HAPPEN.
> So, I see the point that there's plenty more room for
> diversity here, but I can't go with you there on Donald and
> Mickey. By the way, with the 2 stations playing Hip-hop and
> and Mix doing Adult Top40, will Z102 be affected? Really,
> not an intended slam on the Z, but what's left for them to
> play?
That's the point. There is NOTHING for Z to play. They are over, done for, stick a spork in them. They will continue to fall into oblivion.
Now think about if Z102 became alternative. Would hurt FMX but it would keep the shares in their own house.
That would never happen. Would be a smart move. CC doesn't believe in that.
> We'll see.. It's more strategery than anything else!
Well I guess my prediction of the Bush Library not making it to Lubbock because of the words of the people here on Radio-Info.com about Lubbock Radio are completely true.
Sorry Lubbock.
> I hear ya, no insult intended, but
> I can't go with ya there on the Radio Disney thing...
I agree. Just another niche format that would fragment Lubbock even more.
> That's just my opinion, and no insult intended. I DO think
> there's 3 formats Lubbock does not have that it could
> support:
> 1. Alternative. I don't mean the college rock stuff on 88.1
> but more of Modern Rock sort of thing. Only trouble?
> Alternative is not exactly a growing format, and 94.5
> probably would have them for lunch.
Hear Hear! Alternative would be what Lubbock needs. I disagree on your point that 94.5 would have them for lunch. They are so fragmented themselves playing Heavy stuff at night, Classic Rock during the day. Bring a true Alternative on the air and 94.5 would have to pick their battle. Rock 101, even with very little personalities on the air, has improved their music and does what they do adequately. FMX wouldn't ignore the New 97.3 The Bat (God I wish I was in town to hear that, Alternative in Lubbock!) and any change would hurt 94.5 and help 97.3 and 101.1.
> 2. Rhythmic Oldies. That's the type of music that the Beat
> (and probably soon, Hot97.3) plays at lunch time. Old School
> Classic Jams, Disco, 80's freestyle. New York actually has
> two such stations, WKTU and Mix102.7, but that's New York.
> We had one such station here, 103.5, but it didn't seem to
> last too long.
Nope. Won't happen. Good for a period of one hour but it's like the Electric Slide... No Staying power!
> 3. Jack FM (or assorted versions). In fact, I really see
> someone doing this. Imagine the savings for a small market
> like this? Just plug in Winamp with a crossfader and you're
> done. No need for board-ops, dj's or anything, just a sales
> staff and transmitter. And if you go with Jack, they supply
> some of the, you know, stuff. Why play Classic Rock, when
> you can play a little bit'o Rock, a little bit'o Disco, a
> dash of Pop and hint of Alternative (sounds like a recipe
> for baking, lol).
Licensing fees would KILL and as cheap as all three radio groups are... WON'T HAPPEN.
> So, I see the point that there's plenty more room for
> diversity here, but I can't go with you there on Donald and
> Mickey. By the way, with the 2 stations playing Hip-hop and
> and Mix doing Adult Top40, will Z102 be affected? Really,
> not an intended slam on the Z, but what's left for them to
> play?
That's the point. There is NOTHING for Z to play. They are over, done for, stick a spork in them. They will continue to fall into oblivion.
Now think about if Z102 became alternative. Would hurt FMX but it would keep the shares in their own house.
That would never happen. Would be a smart move. CC doesn't believe in that.
> We'll see.. It's more strategery than anything else!
Well I guess my prediction of the Bush Library not making it to Lubbock because of the words of the people here on Radio-Info.com about Lubbock Radio are completely true.
Sorry Lubbock.
E
EasyPeazy
Guest
Re: Last Point
> > I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be happening
> if
> > Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge
> > there had actually let him continue to do what made the
> > station successful in the first place - instead of bogging
>
> > him down with endless commercial production, worries of
> > shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset
> > structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio,
> > frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
>
> One point on Mr. Cruze. If he was such a brilliant
> programmer...
>
>
> Why is he an engineer in Midland-Odessa and not programming
> in a major, mid-major, even a small market.
>
> He can't cut it.
>
Oh Sean... You want to get ugly now? Ok... Let's get ugly...
I've been there and done the jock thing in Austin, Oklahoma City and Tulsa.
Very strong track record of success as a jock too...
After leaving KBTE, I turned down numerous programming offers. Most were in markets about the size of Lubbock or slightly larger. I turned one down in Norfolk-Virginia Beach (top 50 market) and interviewed for the MD position at Jack FM in Dallas. Didn't get it, but I was seriously considered for a major market programming gig - which is something you'll never be!
Personally, I'm not offended by your opinion Sean. It's the opinion of a "programmer" who wasn't even good enough to do a shift on his own station in LUBBOCK, TEXAS!
And Rock 101 is where in the ratings? Where has Rock 101 been in the ratings?
Exactly...
I have two sets of skills. One is worth $X and the other is worth $X times two, and will continue to increase in value as more and more of the existing radio engineers retire.
Do the math.
And have fun posing the interns!
> > I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be happening
> if
> > Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge
> > there had actually let him continue to do what made the
> > station successful in the first place - instead of bogging
>
> > him down with endless commercial production, worries of
> > shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset
> > structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio,
> > frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
>
> One point on Mr. Cruze. If he was such a brilliant
> programmer...
>
>
> Why is he an engineer in Midland-Odessa and not programming
> in a major, mid-major, even a small market.
>
> He can't cut it.
>
Oh Sean... You want to get ugly now? Ok... Let's get ugly...
I've been there and done the jock thing in Austin, Oklahoma City and Tulsa.
Very strong track record of success as a jock too...
After leaving KBTE, I turned down numerous programming offers. Most were in markets about the size of Lubbock or slightly larger. I turned one down in Norfolk-Virginia Beach (top 50 market) and interviewed for the MD position at Jack FM in Dallas. Didn't get it, but I was seriously considered for a major market programming gig - which is something you'll never be!
Personally, I'm not offended by your opinion Sean. It's the opinion of a "programmer" who wasn't even good enough to do a shift on his own station in LUBBOCK, TEXAS!
And Rock 101 is where in the ratings? Where has Rock 101 been in the ratings?
Exactly...
I have two sets of skills. One is worth $X and the other is worth $X times two, and will continue to increase in value as more and more of the existing radio engineers retire.
Do the math.
And have fun posing the interns!
Re: Last Point
> > > I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be
> happening
> > if
> > > Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge
>
> > > there had actually let him continue to do what made the
> > > station successful in the first place - instead of
> bogging
> >
> > > him down with endless commercial production, worries of
> > > shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset
> > > structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio,
> > > frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
> >
> > One point on Mr. Cruze. If he was such a brilliant
> > programmer...
> >
> >
> > Why is he an engineer in Midland-Odessa and not
> programming
> > in a major, mid-major, even a small market.
> >
> > He can't cut it.
> >
>
> Oh Sean... You want to get ugly now? Ok... Let's get
> ugly...
>
> I've been there and done the jock thing in Austin, Oklahoma
> City and Tulsa.
>
> Very strong track record of success as a jock too...
>
> After leaving KBTE, I turned down numerous programming
> offers. Most were in markets about the size of Lubbock or
> slightly larger. I turned one down in Norfolk-Virginia
> Beach (top 50 market) and interviewed for the MD position at
> Jack FM in Dallas. Didn't get it, but I was seriously
> considered for a major market programming gig - which is
> something you'll never be!
>
> Personally, I'm not offended by your opinion Sean. It's the
> opinion of a "programmer" who wasn't even good enough to do
> a shift on his own station in LUBBOCK, TEXAS!
>
> And Rock 101 is where in the ratings? Where has Rock 101
> been in the ratings?
>
> Exactly...
>
> I have two sets of skills. One is worth $X and the other is
> worth $X times two, and will continue to increase in value
> as more and more of the existing radio engineers retire.
>
> Do the math.
>
> And have fun posing the interns!
>
Hi Robbie, Sean here. Got told you wanted to talk to me.
Actually I am and have been working afternoons at Rock 101 since the beginning of the year. Obviously I can cut it. If I wasn't able to cut it, I wouldn't be here.
I've been in Lubbock Radio for over 10 years. Been through 3 owners, 2 GM's and seen many people come and go. Some on their own, and some with keys thrown at the GM.
Personally I rarely read this board and I thank all the people who have bashed Rock 101.1 now and in the future. You are the reason I try harder each day to provide a quality piece of entertainment.
Like me, fine. Hate me, fine.
Just have the balls to call me and say I hate your guts.
Hell, Wes Nessman tells me whenever I see him how much he hates me.
BTW
The interns miss you...
All my best,
Sean Dillon
Afternoons 2-7
Rock 101.1
806-770-5000<P ID="signature">______________
Love, Luck and Lollipops</P>
> > > I have a strong suspicion that this wouldn't be
> happening
> > if
> > > Robbie had never left The Beat, and the morons in charge
>
> > > there had actually let him continue to do what made the
> > > station successful in the first place - instead of
> bogging
> >
> > > him down with endless commercial production, worries of
> > > shady concert promoters, balloons at remotes, stopset
> > > structures that clearly don't work for rhythmic radio,
> > > frequent automation disasters and other minutiae.
> >
> > One point on Mr. Cruze. If he was such a brilliant
> > programmer...
> >
> >
> > Why is he an engineer in Midland-Odessa and not
> programming
> > in a major, mid-major, even a small market.
> >
> > He can't cut it.
> >
>
> Oh Sean... You want to get ugly now? Ok... Let's get
> ugly...
>
> I've been there and done the jock thing in Austin, Oklahoma
> City and Tulsa.
>
> Very strong track record of success as a jock too...
>
> After leaving KBTE, I turned down numerous programming
> offers. Most were in markets about the size of Lubbock or
> slightly larger. I turned one down in Norfolk-Virginia
> Beach (top 50 market) and interviewed for the MD position at
> Jack FM in Dallas. Didn't get it, but I was seriously
> considered for a major market programming gig - which is
> something you'll never be!
>
> Personally, I'm not offended by your opinion Sean. It's the
> opinion of a "programmer" who wasn't even good enough to do
> a shift on his own station in LUBBOCK, TEXAS!
>
> And Rock 101 is where in the ratings? Where has Rock 101
> been in the ratings?
>
> Exactly...
>
> I have two sets of skills. One is worth $X and the other is
> worth $X times two, and will continue to increase in value
> as more and more of the existing radio engineers retire.
>
> Do the math.
>
> And have fun posing the interns!
>
Hi Robbie, Sean here. Got told you wanted to talk to me.
Actually I am and have been working afternoons at Rock 101 since the beginning of the year. Obviously I can cut it. If I wasn't able to cut it, I wouldn't be here.
I've been in Lubbock Radio for over 10 years. Been through 3 owners, 2 GM's and seen many people come and go. Some on their own, and some with keys thrown at the GM.
Personally I rarely read this board and I thank all the people who have bashed Rock 101.1 now and in the future. You are the reason I try harder each day to provide a quality piece of entertainment.
Like me, fine. Hate me, fine.
Just have the balls to call me and say I hate your guts.
Hell, Wes Nessman tells me whenever I see him how much he hates me.
BTW
The interns miss you...
All my best,
Sean Dillon
Afternoons 2-7
Rock 101.1
806-770-5000<P ID="signature">______________
Love, Luck and Lollipops</P>
E
EasyPeazy
Guest
Re: Last Point
> Actually I am and have been working afternoons at Rock 101
> since the beginning of the year. Obviously I can cut it.
> If I wasn't able to cut it, I wouldn't be here.
Well, there's some really questionable decision making power in that building. I suppose anything's possible.
> I've been in Lubbock Radio for over 10 years. Been through
> 3 owners, 2 GM's and seen many people come and go. Some on
> their own, and some with keys thrown at the GM.
Been there for 10 years? Why is this year 1 on the air?
I guess you'd have to ask the new GM about that one. Now who told you he was wrong? Hmmm... Would that have been me? (Obviously with my lack of programming skill, I must have been wrong about that...)
> Personally I rarely read this board and I thank all the
> people who have bashed Rock 101.1 now and in the future.
> You are the reason I try harder each day to provide a
> quality piece of entertainment.
If I were you, I'd focus on the listeners - and not the pundits on this board. But what the hell do I know about programming anyway? (I bet this thread gets a 10 share!)
> Like me, fine. Hate me, fine.
>
> Just have the balls to call me and say I hate your guts.
I don't hate you Sean, and I think you know that. I am a bit puzzled about the direction you chose to take in this thread as radioezp though.
> BTW
> The interns miss you...
Awww... That's sweet!
And by the way Sean... If you weren't radioezp, I would think my last post would have resulted in a "WHAT THE HELL???" phone call from you - not yet another post - this time under your real name.
Radioezp sure didn't waste any time telling Sean Dillon he was being talked about here!
> Actually I am and have been working afternoons at Rock 101
> since the beginning of the year. Obviously I can cut it.
> If I wasn't able to cut it, I wouldn't be here.
Well, there's some really questionable decision making power in that building. I suppose anything's possible.
> I've been in Lubbock Radio for over 10 years. Been through
> 3 owners, 2 GM's and seen many people come and go. Some on
> their own, and some with keys thrown at the GM.
Been there for 10 years? Why is this year 1 on the air?
I guess you'd have to ask the new GM about that one. Now who told you he was wrong? Hmmm... Would that have been me? (Obviously with my lack of programming skill, I must have been wrong about that...)
> Personally I rarely read this board and I thank all the
> people who have bashed Rock 101.1 now and in the future.
> You are the reason I try harder each day to provide a
> quality piece of entertainment.
If I were you, I'd focus on the listeners - and not the pundits on this board. But what the hell do I know about programming anyway? (I bet this thread gets a 10 share!)
> Like me, fine. Hate me, fine.
>
> Just have the balls to call me and say I hate your guts.
I don't hate you Sean, and I think you know that. I am a bit puzzled about the direction you chose to take in this thread as radioezp though.
> BTW
> The interns miss you...
Awww... That's sweet!
And by the way Sean... If you weren't radioezp, I would think my last post would have resulted in a "WHAT THE HELL???" phone call from you - not yet another post - this time under your real name.
Radioezp sure didn't waste any time telling Sean Dillon he was being talked about here!
Re: Last Point
> > Actually I am and have been working afternoons at Rock 101
>
> > since the beginning of the year. Obviously I can cut it.
>
> > If I wasn't able to cut it, I wouldn't be here.
>
> Well, there's some really questionable decision making power
> in that building. I suppose anything's possible.
Wow, what did I ever do but lift you up? First you say that's questionable that Im here...
> > I've been in Lubbock Radio for over 10 years. Been
> through
> > 3 owners, 2 GM's and seen many people come and go. Some
> on
> > their own, and some with keys thrown at the GM.
>
> Been there for 10 years? Why is this year 1 on the air?
>
> I guess you'd have to ask the new GM about that one. Now
> who told you he was wrong? Hmmm... Would that have been
> me? (Obviously with my lack of programming skill, I must
> have been wrong about that...)
I knew I had skills Robbie. Never denied it. Just needed the trust. Maybe it wasn't the New GM that was holding me back? Ever think about that?
> > Personally I rarely read this board and I thank all the
> > people who have bashed Rock 101.1 now and in the future.
> > You are the reason I try harder each day to provide a
> > quality piece of entertainment.
>
> If I were you, I'd focus on the listeners - and not the
> pundits on this board. But what the hell do I know about
> programming anyway? (I bet this thread gets a 10 share!)
>
I have been. I'll be signing off now. Got called at the house to read the drivel that is people hating me.
> > Like me, fine. Hate me, fine.
> >
> > Just have the balls to call me and say I hate your guts.
>
> I don't hate you Sean, and I think you know that. I am a
> bit puzzled about the direction you chose to take in this
> thread as radioezp though.
Sorry try again.
> > BTW
> > The interns miss you...
>
> Awww... That's sweet!
>
Actually heard from Randi the other day. She's UNEMPLOYED still living with Daddy and Mommy.
Legs has just had her second baby and April is a "Cruise Entertainment Director" for a cruise line out of New York.
Whats her name is back in El Paso with her boy toy and many more people have left.
I've really had concerns about alot of things but I've decided one thing and one thing only...
Do my best, try my best and continue to kick ass.
Call me at the house or when I'm on the air. Won't check the board for another month or two. Now back to Hooters. GOD I LOVE MY JOB!
Sean Dillon
Afternoon Drive 2-7P
Rock 101 <P ID="signature">______________
Love, Luck and Lollipops</P>
> > Actually I am and have been working afternoons at Rock 101
>
> > since the beginning of the year. Obviously I can cut it.
>
> > If I wasn't able to cut it, I wouldn't be here.
>
> Well, there's some really questionable decision making power
> in that building. I suppose anything's possible.
Wow, what did I ever do but lift you up? First you say that's questionable that Im here...
> > I've been in Lubbock Radio for over 10 years. Been
> through
> > 3 owners, 2 GM's and seen many people come and go. Some
> on
> > their own, and some with keys thrown at the GM.
>
> Been there for 10 years? Why is this year 1 on the air?
>
> I guess you'd have to ask the new GM about that one. Now
> who told you he was wrong? Hmmm... Would that have been
> me? (Obviously with my lack of programming skill, I must
> have been wrong about that...)
I knew I had skills Robbie. Never denied it. Just needed the trust. Maybe it wasn't the New GM that was holding me back? Ever think about that?
> > Personally I rarely read this board and I thank all the
> > people who have bashed Rock 101.1 now and in the future.
> > You are the reason I try harder each day to provide a
> > quality piece of entertainment.
>
> If I were you, I'd focus on the listeners - and not the
> pundits on this board. But what the hell do I know about
> programming anyway? (I bet this thread gets a 10 share!)
>
I have been. I'll be signing off now. Got called at the house to read the drivel that is people hating me.
> > Like me, fine. Hate me, fine.
> >
> > Just have the balls to call me and say I hate your guts.
>
> I don't hate you Sean, and I think you know that. I am a
> bit puzzled about the direction you chose to take in this
> thread as radioezp though.
Sorry try again.
> > BTW
> > The interns miss you...
>
> Awww... That's sweet!
>
Actually heard from Randi the other day. She's UNEMPLOYED still living with Daddy and Mommy.
Legs has just had her second baby and April is a "Cruise Entertainment Director" for a cruise line out of New York.
Whats her name is back in El Paso with her boy toy and many more people have left.
I've really had concerns about alot of things but I've decided one thing and one thing only...
Do my best, try my best and continue to kick ass.
Call me at the house or when I'm on the air. Won't check the board for another month or two. Now back to Hooters. GOD I LOVE MY JOB!
Sean Dillon
Afternoon Drive 2-7P
Rock 101 <P ID="signature">______________
Love, Luck and Lollipops</P>
C
CarlosDuran
Guest
Tino will KILL IT! Congrats on the new gig brutha!!
CD<P ID="signature">______________
Carlos D
MD/Nights
KOB-FM Albuquerque, NM</P>
CD<P ID="signature">______________
Carlos D
MD/Nights
KOB-FM Albuquerque, NM</P>
JACK-FM Solution for Lubbock
I think that I have come up with a solution. Instead of JACK-FM, Lubbock has STARS. Think about it..
The last time I visited Lubbock, I heard a considerable amount of variety like No Mercy "Where do you go" to Steely Dan "Hey 19". STARS could basically become a JACK like radio station by keeping their current playlist and adding more classic rock like Boston, ZZ-Top, and Van Hallen. Additionally, they could play a few alternative cuts like Linkin Park, Green Day, and Staind.
Their new slogan could be something like "Lew plays what Lew wants on STARS-FM."
Problem solved..
-DM
> > I hear ya, no insult intended, but
> > I can't go with ya there on the Radio Disney thing...
>
> I agree. Just another niche format that would fragment
> Lubbock even more.
>
> > That's just my opinion, and no insult intended. I DO think
>
> > there's 3 formats Lubbock does not have that it could
> > support:
> > 1. Alternative. I don't mean the college rock stuff on
> 88.1
> > but more of Modern Rock sort of thing. Only trouble?
> > Alternative is not exactly a growing format, and 94.5
> > probably would have them for lunch.
>
> Hear Hear! Alternative would be what Lubbock needs. I
> disagree on your point that 94.5 would have them for lunch.
> They are so fragmented themselves playing Heavy stuff at
> night, Classic Rock during the day. Bring a true Alternative
> on the air and 94.5 would have to pick their battle. Rock
> 101, even with very little personalities on the air, has
> improved their music and does what they do adequately. FMX
> wouldn't ignore the New 97.3 The Bat (God I wish I was in
> town to hear that, Alternative in Lubbock!) and any change
> would hurt 94.5 and help 97.3 and 101.1.
>
>
>
> > 2. Rhythmic Oldies. That's the type of music that the Beat
>
> > (and probably soon, Hot97.3) plays at lunch time. Old
> School
> > Classic Jams, Disco, 80's freestyle. New York actually has
>
> > two such stations, WKTU and Mix102.7, but that's New York.
>
> > We had one such station here, 103.5, but it didn't seem to
>
> > last too long.
>
> Nope. Won't happen. Good for a period of one hour but it's
> like the Electric Slide... No Staying power!
>
> > 3. Jack FM (or assorted versions). In fact, I really see
> > someone doing this. Imagine the savings for a small market
>
> > like this? Just plug in Winamp with a crossfader and
> you're
> > done. No need for board-ops, dj's or anything, just a
> sales
> > staff and transmitter. And if you go with Jack, they
> supply
> > some of the, you know, stuff. Why play Classic Rock, when
> > you can play a little bit'o Rock, a little bit'o Disco, a
> > dash of Pop and hint of Alternative (sounds like a recipe
> > for baking, lol).
>
> Licensing fees would KILL and as cheap as all three radio
> groups are... WON'T HAPPEN.
>
> > So, I see the point that there's plenty more room for
> > diversity here, but I can't go with you there on Donald
> and
> > Mickey. By the way, with the 2 stations playing Hip-hop
> and
> > and Mix doing Adult Top40, will Z102 be affected? Really,
> > not an intended slam on the Z, but what's left for them to
>
> > play?
>
> That's the point. There is NOTHING for Z to play. They are
> over, done for, stick a spork in them. They will continue to
> fall into oblivion.
>
> Now think about if Z102 became alternative. Would hurt FMX
> but it would keep the shares in their own house.
>
> That would never happen. Would be a smart move. CC doesn't
> believe in that.
>
>
> > We'll see.. It's more strategery than anything else!
>
> Well I guess my prediction of the Bush Library not making it
> to Lubbock because of the words of the people here on
> Radio-Info.com about Lubbock Radio are completely true.
>
> Sorry Lubbock.
>
I think that I have come up with a solution. Instead of JACK-FM, Lubbock has STARS. Think about it..
The last time I visited Lubbock, I heard a considerable amount of variety like No Mercy "Where do you go" to Steely Dan "Hey 19". STARS could basically become a JACK like radio station by keeping their current playlist and adding more classic rock like Boston, ZZ-Top, and Van Hallen. Additionally, they could play a few alternative cuts like Linkin Park, Green Day, and Staind.
Their new slogan could be something like "Lew plays what Lew wants on STARS-FM."
Problem solved..
-DM
> > I hear ya, no insult intended, but
> > I can't go with ya there on the Radio Disney thing...
>
> I agree. Just another niche format that would fragment
> Lubbock even more.
>
> > That's just my opinion, and no insult intended. I DO think
>
> > there's 3 formats Lubbock does not have that it could
> > support:
> > 1. Alternative. I don't mean the college rock stuff on
> 88.1
> > but more of Modern Rock sort of thing. Only trouble?
> > Alternative is not exactly a growing format, and 94.5
> > probably would have them for lunch.
>
> Hear Hear! Alternative would be what Lubbock needs. I
> disagree on your point that 94.5 would have them for lunch.
> They are so fragmented themselves playing Heavy stuff at
> night, Classic Rock during the day. Bring a true Alternative
> on the air and 94.5 would have to pick their battle. Rock
> 101, even with very little personalities on the air, has
> improved their music and does what they do adequately. FMX
> wouldn't ignore the New 97.3 The Bat (God I wish I was in
> town to hear that, Alternative in Lubbock!) and any change
> would hurt 94.5 and help 97.3 and 101.1.
>
>
>
> > 2. Rhythmic Oldies. That's the type of music that the Beat
>
> > (and probably soon, Hot97.3) plays at lunch time. Old
> School
> > Classic Jams, Disco, 80's freestyle. New York actually has
>
> > two such stations, WKTU and Mix102.7, but that's New York.
>
> > We had one such station here, 103.5, but it didn't seem to
>
> > last too long.
>
> Nope. Won't happen. Good for a period of one hour but it's
> like the Electric Slide... No Staying power!
>
> > 3. Jack FM (or assorted versions). In fact, I really see
> > someone doing this. Imagine the savings for a small market
>
> > like this? Just plug in Winamp with a crossfader and
> you're
> > done. No need for board-ops, dj's or anything, just a
> sales
> > staff and transmitter. And if you go with Jack, they
> supply
> > some of the, you know, stuff. Why play Classic Rock, when
> > you can play a little bit'o Rock, a little bit'o Disco, a
> > dash of Pop and hint of Alternative (sounds like a recipe
> > for baking, lol).
>
> Licensing fees would KILL and as cheap as all three radio
> groups are... WON'T HAPPEN.
>
> > So, I see the point that there's plenty more room for
> > diversity here, but I can't go with you there on Donald
> and
> > Mickey. By the way, with the 2 stations playing Hip-hop
> and
> > and Mix doing Adult Top40, will Z102 be affected? Really,
> > not an intended slam on the Z, but what's left for them to
>
> > play?
>
> That's the point. There is NOTHING for Z to play. They are
> over, done for, stick a spork in them. They will continue to
> fall into oblivion.
>
> Now think about if Z102 became alternative. Would hurt FMX
> but it would keep the shares in their own house.
>
> That would never happen. Would be a smart move. CC doesn't
> believe in that.
>
>
> > We'll see.. It's more strategery than anything else!
>
> Well I guess my prediction of the Bush Library not making it
> to Lubbock because of the words of the people here on
> Radio-Info.com about Lubbock Radio are completely true.
>
> Sorry Lubbock.
>
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